Shrike Models

 
  apw5910 Chief Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
goto https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shrike-Models/281664298675525 and expand the post of 22 January, you'll find the BSB etc for direct deposit.
Poath Junction
Umm, no I don't. Nor is it in any of the comments. You'd think in this day and age such obviously Internet savvy traders would make electronic transfer a bit easier. The only thing I can see there is an old-fashioned PO Box address.

Edit: Sorry, it is buried in a comment on a comment...

Doing their job for them, it says:

"email address is : shrikemodels@gmail.com
the bank number is BSB 112879 Account 458246934 in the name Shrike Models PTY LTD. so you can direct deposit and send an email with your locos you want."

Think that should be in big letters at the top of their Facebook page, not so deeply buried.

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  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Umm, no I don't. Nor is it in any of the comments. You'd think in this day and age such obviously Internet savvy traders would make electronic transfer a bit easier. The only thing I can see there is an old-fashioned PO Box address.

Edit: Sorry, it is buried in a comment on a comment...

Doing their job for them, it says:

"email address is : shrikemodels@gmail.com
the bank number is BSB 112879 Account 458246934 in the name Shrike Models PTY LTD. so you can direct deposit and send an email with your locos you want."

Think that should be in big letters at the top of their Facebook page, not so deeply buried.
apw5910
Thanks for that.   Not everyone is on or wants to be on facebook.  
Might have been nice for Shrike to put details on this site if their website crashed.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Just a quick update.
Shrike management are having difficulties logging into Railpage Australia™.
I have been asked to print out an email explaining where they are at, (when I get it Smile I do know that one of the principals is going to China next week to test the upgraded mechs and check out if the modifications have done the job. IF they are right, production can be started right away as all monies have been transferred, all they wait on is the final sign off by Shrike.
The problems with the web site have been noted and they are presently building a new site which will be ready for the 30T release.
I will add the email as soon as I get it. Don't know why I am so excited as its only NSW doodoo,but its nice to see someone watch his long time dreams come true! Go Geoff Very Happy
Cheers
Rod Young
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Just a quick update.
Shrike management are having difficulties logging into Railpage Australia™.
I have been asked to print out an email explaining where they are at, (when I get it Smile I do know that one of the principals is going to China next week to test the upgraded mechs and check out if the modifications have done the job. IF they are right, production can be started right away as all monies have been transferred, all they wait on is the final sign off by Shrike.
The problems with the web site have been noted and they are presently building a new site which will be ready for the 30T release.
I will add the email as soon as I get it. Don't know why I am so excited as its only NSW doodoo,but its nice to see someone watch his long time dreams come true! Go Geoff Very Happy
Cheers
Rod Young
comtrain
Ok here it is.

"Gday mate, Here is what to tell Railpage:
The 6 wheel versions of the 30T are arriving about Late February and will be boxed up this side of Chinese new year shut down. . They can talk with me at - Forrestville, Kaleen and Hobsons bay and look for the advertisement in April's AMRM and ARI.
Also if anyone orders their engines by paying for them direct to the shrike account  (Make sure your name name is included in the transfer, so we can line up the payment Wink ) they have to send a covering email to : shrikemodels@gmail.com
with their name, what locos they ordered and their address and contact number, otherwise we have no idea what the money is for. as I said in the phone call, one bloke has done this so far .

Cheers mate
Hopey"
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
Thanks Rod, sorry to see they have problems with communicating project progress, but great that you can step in to help.  Good onyer.

Looking forward to this little rock burner.

Best regards,
John
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
New website now online - http://www.shrike-models.com/
Note it opened for me in Chrome browser but not in IE, not sure if it's an issue here or there.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
New website now online - http://www.shrike-models.com/
Note it opened for me in Chrome browser but not in IE, not sure if it's an issue here or there.
Poath Junction
I think that's a filler till they get a better one up. Looks pretty home made to me Smile Anyway Geoff seemed to indicate he was at the mercy of his web designer. When the other one failed, this one arrived too quickly, and doesn't say near enough, does it?
Cheers
Rod
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
I think that's a filler till they get a better one up. Looks pretty home made to me Smile Anyway Geoff seemed to indicate he was at the mercy of his web designer. When the other one failed, this one arrived too quickly, and doesn't say near enough, does it?
Cheers
Rod
comtrain
That web site is not going to get many friends north of the Tweed Rod!

It does say Geoff is a mad keen SA modeller, but perhaps that means broad gauge SA.

I am getting like a hard done by Banana Bender despite the fact that 99% of my models are NSWGR.  Smile

Best regards,
John
  c3526blue Deputy Commissioner

Location: in the cuckoos nest
Many more extra running numbers appear on the new website.

There seems to be some mixup in the lists with C30T engines superheated/saturated and standard/drumhead smokebox.

I hope this is clarified shortly so that I can confidently place my order.

Bank details are easily found.  I note there are no credit card facilities yet, seems to be only direct transfer or cheque/money order payments.

Also postage is $15 per order, for up to 6 locos (I wish), then another $15.

Happy shriking,

John

PS: Edited to add payment details.
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Many more extra running numbers appear on the new website.

There seems to be some mixup in the lists with C30T engines superheated/saturated and standard/drumhead smokebox.

I hope this is clarified shortly so that I can confidently place my order.

Bank details are easily found.  I note there are no credit card facilities yet, seems to be only direct transfer or cheque/money order payments.

Also postage is $15 per order, for up to 6 locos (I wish), then another $15.

Happy shriking,

John

PS: Edited to add payment details.
c3526blue
Hello John,
If their is a mix up with numbers, its probably a good time to list them out, so they can be fixed?   Good advice from the Museum says the recent numbers are correct ??  Can you itemise the ones you feel are wrong because one of the partnersis in China next week overseeing production.
Cheers
Rod

edit  Sorry that was supposed to  have gone to you direct.
  Spinner5711 Train Controller

Okay...

6 Wheeled Tender list.
3090TS is a superheated locomotive.  It is one of a few that has a 'frame supported' extended smoekbox, simlar to those on 32 Class ans Stanard Goods locomotives.  if it it intended to portray 3090T after conversion, prior to superheating, then it is correct.
All others are correct for saturated/superheated.


Bogie Tender List.
All are correct.  i note that there is duplication across both lists.
  CraigW Assistant Commissioner

Okay...

6 Wheeled Tender list.
3090TS is a superheated locomotive.  It is one of a few that has a 'frame supported' extended smoekbox, simlar to those on 32 Class ans Stanard Goods locomotives.  if it it intended to portray 3090T after conversion, prior to superheating, then it is correct.
All others are correct for saturated/superheated.


Bogie Tender List.
All are correct.  i note that there is duplication across both lists.
Spinner5711
Looking at the list on the Shrike website, 3011 is shown. This was another that was fitted with a built up smokebox rather than the drumhead one. In addition, in latter years at least, this was fitted with a bogie tender as it was a Mudgee engine.

Craig W
  a6et Minister for Railways

Looking at the list on the Shrike website, 3011 is shown. This was another that was fitted with a built up smokebox rather than the drumhead one. In addition, in latter years at least, this was fitted with a bogie tender as it was a Mudgee engine.

Craig W
CraigW
There is a degree of confusion with the way the smokeboxes are listed. Saturated engines in one list namely the 6 wheel tender one, then shown differently on the bogie tender page.  Likewise some of the standard, meaning saturated versions are shown as having Drumhead SB's on the different page.

Standard I would suggest refers to those that are in the superheated builds & not having the Drumhead extension.  The actual frontal look of the saturated & the non drumhead types look basically the same, big difference of course is the superheated engines had larger smokeboxes than the saturated versions that retained the same style as the original tank 30cl

3011, 20, 89 & 90 each superheated had the flat fronted smokeboxes, somewhere I have a list of them but not handy.

Following the arrival of 48 & 49cl in 59, a lot of the old 6 wheel tender types were withdrawn & several of the main 30T class country depots were allocated with bogie tender types only at least generally & found especially after circa 1963, these being Werris Creek, alloted to West Tamworth, Mudgee & Temora, each involve with heavier working requiring the larger tenders, also the advantage of the branch lines having 60ft TT's.  Areas that only had 50ft TT's usually only had 6 wheel tenders fitted for the branch line working.

Exceptions occured though such as at Cowra where bogie tendered 3142 was allocated there following the withdrawal of the 32cl from their allocation & used for Boorowa working. Temora received 3144 with 6 wheel tender at the end of its steam allotment for a short while for shunting duties only.

3122+ had both 6 wheel tender & bogie tender at different times during the 60's when at Dubob, the 6 wheel tender was required for Warren & Coonamble working. 3014, 47,& 88 Temora engines each had bogie tenders, .
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
http://www.shrike-models.com/ and facebook updates today. SAR Y & DA wagons as a bonus freebie for RX pre-orders. Which I guess is the official announcement he's doing those wagons!
  BIG-BEAR Chief Train Controller

http://www.shrike-models.com/ and facebook updates today. SAR Y & DA wagons as a bonus freebie for RX pre-orders. Which I guess is the official announcement he's doing those wagons!
Poath Junction

Its good to hear that more SAR models are going to hit the market . I was wondering if any sample photo's around of the Y & Da wagons or the the Rx class .

If they are meant be delivered with the Rx class and the Rx class is meant to be out this year .

Is the time frame possible ?
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
I think you need to read between the lines. What the team wants out of China might be doable, but in reality we have seen that China rarely meets any deadlines. The C30T fixed and painted samples are still not here, and a company starting off fresh is unlikely to release so many models in a tight time frame first time out. Mind you if anybody can call up a miracle Geoff does have some good contacts Wink

Its better that we take it as it comes. To keep the company interested, let them know you want the product and sit back and wait. It was quite a thrill to hold the 30T in my hands at Hobsons Bay, and it created a lot of interest. We are all waiting for the Rx to arrive so we can see what Shrike brings to Victoria next year Wink
Cheers
Rod
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Its good to hear that more SAR models are going to hit the market . I was wondering if any sample photo's around of the Y & Da wagons or the the Rx class .

If they are meant be delivered with the Rx class and the Rx class is meant to be out this year .

Is the time frame possible ?
BIG-BEAR
I suspect not, Shrike are seemingly going to be plagued by the delays and over optimistic assumptions of production lead times currently infecting much of the Australian RTR market.

I find this particularly baffling:

We expect these to arrive in mid to late 2015, hopefully before the Adelaide Exhibition
?Rx Pricelisting"
For those not aware, AMRE this year is June 6-8. How can they expect mid to late 2015? Which surely to any sane person implies something like July-October, we already know that they'll run late, so why would you hope for them to be before June? That's like going to the casino and putting all your money on black at the roulette table and hoping the croupier spins up 00.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
I find this particularly baffling:

For those not aware, AMRE this year is June 6-8. How can they expect mid to late 2015? Which surely to any sane person implies something like July-October, we already know that they'll run late, so why would you hope for them to be before June? That's like going to the casino and putting all your money on black at the roulette table and hoping the croupier spins up 00.
Aaron
Modelling the Railways of SA , 5th September 2015. Fits the sane July-October period nicely.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Modelling the Railways of SA , 5th September 2015. Fits the sane July-October period nicely.
Poath Junction
That does, but that's not what they said now is it?
  anzac1959 Chief Commissioner

I spoke to Geoff at Loftus and he said that he hoped to have 30Ts forsale at Epping next month and they do look very nice
  NSWGR1855 Deputy Commissioner

I spoke to Geoff at Loftus and he said that he hoped to have 30Ts forsale at Epping next month and they do look very nice
anzac1959
The NSW 30 class does look nice at first glance, however looking at the design, my prediction is they will not be able to pull the skin off a rice pudding. The tractive effort problem will mostly be a result of the 6 wheel tender design, with its inside bearings and back of flange wipers resulting in a tender that has similar rolling qualities as a brick. Unfortunately there will be no easy fix other than a tender replacement. Rebuilding the tender so it is free rolling will not be easy.

Terry Flynn
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

The NSW 30 class does look nice at first glance, however looking at the design, my prediction is they will not be able to pull the skin off a rice pudding. The tractive effort problem will mostly be a result of the 6 wheel tender design, with its inside bearings and back of flange wipers resulting in a tender that has similar rolling qualities as a brick. Unfortunately there will be no easy fix other than a tender replacement. Rebuilding the tender so it is free rolling will not be easy.

Terry Flynn
NSWGR1855

Shrike Models is obviously not on Terry's list of friendly manufacturers (aka The Brown-nose List), so nothing Shrike do will be seen favorable in his eyes.

Form your own opinions please on the upcoming 30T...

Paul
  comtrain Chief Commissioner

Location: Near Albury Wodonga
Shrike Models is obviously not on Terry's list of friendly manufacturers (aka The Brown-nose List), so nothing Shrike do will be seen favorable in his eyes.

Form your own opinions please on the upcoming 30T...

Paul
FirstStopCentral
Yes you have to wonder what some people write and why?  But it is pretty obvious the other plastic steam loco producers have to worry why Shrike will build a fully detailed (Read not a Lima toy quality build) steam locomotive more than $200 less than they want to sell them for.

I expect lots more derogatory comments and will suspect who initiates them., By the way Mr Flynn, aren't you a member of the modelling group who have a lot to do with the principals of Eureka?
I would be surprised if Ron would publicly run down Geoff Hopes efforts, they appear to know each other reasonably well, and conduct amiable conversations at most Exhibitions that I have attended.

Geoff was expected to fail with this venture. He has confounded many of the detractors, and now with models in production, their only option will be to try to kill sales.  So make your own minds up, after all  sheep have 4 legs and eat grass and fart methane, don't they Very Happy
Cheers
Rod Young
ps and if some of you haven't thought this through $460 for a steamer is a bargain. If they are as good as they look, and more locos follow, it will drag all the prices down about 15%, And that has to be good for all of us plonkers!
  a6et Minister for Railways

Yes you have to wonder what some people write and why?  But it is pretty obvious the other plastic steam loco producers have to worry why Shrike will build a fully detailed (Read not a Lima toy quality build) steam locomotive more than $200 less than they want to sell them for.

I expect lots more derogatory comments and will suspect who initiates them., By the way Mr Flynn, aren't you a member of the modelling group who have a lot to do with the principals of Eureka?
I would be surprised if Ron would publicly run down Geoff Hopes efforts, they appear to know each other reasonably well, and conduct amiable conversations at most Exhibitions that I have attended.

Geoff was expected to fail with this venture. He has confounded many of the detractors, and now with models in production, their only option will be to try to kill sales.  So make your own minds up, after all  sheep have 4 legs and eat grass and fart methane, don't they Very Happy
Cheers
Rod Young
ps and if some of you haven't thought this through $460 for a steamer is a bargain. If they are as good as they look, and more locos follow, it will drag all the prices down about 15%, And that has to be good for all of us plonkers!
comtrain
Well put Rod.

Now I know this & what you said will be deemed off topic but!

I wonder when comparing the Shrike 30T with the Eureka 50cl, & I base this on photo's only, & can pick a couple of things with the unpainted photo sample in the current AMRM of the unpainted Shrike model, but I would think with that photo of a preproduction incmplete model there is some fine tuning to be done. So I reserve my opinion on how it will look in the end & how well it will pull.

OTOH, & based on the photo in the latest Eureka newsletter, without blowing it up, there are some very obvious errors in the model, blowing it up by hitting CTL + boy does that show up some items that look pretty crook on the 50cl, most of which I did not need to compare the photo with those of the 1:1 gauge but, when then comparing with photo's doesn't it show up the mistakes in the model.
  John_Bushell Chief Commissioner

Location: Brisbane
The NSW 30 class does look nice at first glance, however looking at the design, my prediction is they will not be able to pull the skin off a rice pudding.
Terry Flynn
NSWGR1855
Think I can live with that Terry.  A few S trucks plus a few other odds and ends with an HCX.  The C30 was not a main line express after all.

But let's wait and see and not jump to conclusions.

Best regards,
John

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