Graffiti attack numbers paint a grim picture for Metro Trains

 

News article: Graffiti attack numbers paint a grim picture for Metro Trains

Melbourne trains were hit by more than 1000 graffiti attacks last year, almost half of which took place while the train was in service, as vandals became more adept at stopping trains in their tracks or invading restricted railway areas.

  8077 Chief Train Controller

Location: Crossing the Rubicon
Melbourne trains were hit by more than 1000 graffiti attacks last year, almost half of which took place while the train was in service, as vandals became more adept at stopping trains in their tracks or invading restricted railway areas.

Vandalised trains must be taken out of service promptly to be cleaned, causing disruption to passengers, although rail operator Metro will often leave a graffitied train in service in peak times.

Metro has called for tougher penalties for those caught attacking  trains, including jail time for the worst offenders, but recent research suggests a "tough on crime" approach to the problem will fail.
Graffiti attack numbers paint a grim picture for Metro Trains

The train in the photo looks to be an Hitachi set at McCaully sidings nearest the creek. Was down there a few weeks ago but did not notice the graffiti.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The train in the photo looks to be an Hitachi set at McCaully sidings nearest the creek. Was down there a few weeks ago but did not notice the graffiti.
8077

I believe you are correct.  The Hitachi's have been in that location (well at least 2 6 car sets on the sidings closest the creek) since there withdrawal from service.

The area is outlined on Vicsig: http://vicsig.net/infrastructure/location/Macaulay-Stabling-Sidings-and-Light-Repair-Centre

Note the spelling is Macaulay.  The buggers have got into the compound.
  X'Trapolis-904M Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
The hitachi's are in the new connex livery not the met so it can't be them
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Image from Flickr on what I think are the stored Hitachi units.

  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I usually have little sympathy for Metro and its antics but on this topic I do.
It is no good just catching these offenders when they get off on some micky mouse penalty. Until/unless the judiciary start to take this problem seriously and dish out a few weeks/months in the slammer for these people nothing and no one is safe from criminal damage of this nature.
  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

"An Australian study of the impact of stiffer anti-graffiti penalties in Western Australia in 2004 found attacks had not reduced two years later, particularly among recidivists."

How many times has the maximum penalty been applied? How many actually jailed? I'm going to take a guess at never, which is why it's not working. "He's got no money, he's always been such a good kid."

And here's the usual response from the "experts" who think the vandals just need a good talking to:

"The EU-funded Graffolution project, launched last year, seeks to better understand the psychology of offenders, who view graffiti as self-expression, in contrast to transport operators who view it as a costly problem.

This perspective leads to "repressive prevention strategies in contrast to legal alternatives such as 'free walls' ", the Graffolution site states."
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Well we all know that magistrates will let the kids who wreck our trains off with a warning, but no proper disincentive such as a five figure fine or a month or two in the slammer.

But without a strong disincentive the moment they leave court, the kids will just fetch their wire cutters and head right back to attack our trains.

Now under a Bogong Regime, train compounds will be protected with high voltage electric fences and hidden man traps (essentially over sized old fashioned rabbit traps). Survivors would then be exiled to do a years community work somewhere a long way from trains like the Tanamai desert.

But until that time, our government should direct our wishy-washy magistrates to harden up and provide penalties that are a real disincentive for the criminals that trash our trains.

--- rant ends ---
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Completely agree. The courts are far too soft on these vandals.

We do need to spend more effort understanding why they feel the need to do what they do.

Treat the cause not the crime.
  ElliotProvis Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Not that this is a solution, and no doubt it's been suggested before, but why don't we start asking these 'creative, expressive geniuses' to start doing this in an overall design scheme that does our City proud and embraces this counter-culture that is manifesting itself ever more prominently. If there's one way to suck "imagination" out of the youth it's to corporatise their lives (however in this case I feel like it wouldn't be uncalled for, make it seems lame because it's encouraged mad adopted as a policy).

Who knows - then kids might even start applying decals!
  thadocta Chief Commissioner

Location: Katoomba
Even if a few months in prison isn't effective in dissuading offending, at the very least they can't do any damage whilst they are locked up!

Dave
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
Prison is possibly even counter-productive, because when they get out they will feel a need for revenge and do it all over again.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
If, as the report says, repressive penalties are not having any effect, what is Singapore doing that makes graffiti almost non-existent over there?
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

If, as the report says, repressive penalties are not having any effect, what is Singapore doing that makes graffiti almost non-existent over there?
TheBlacksmith
A few whacks on the back of the thigh/backside with a Rattan stick apparently:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/singapore/11450905/Singapore-sentences-young-German-vandals-to-nine-months-in-prison-for-spray-painting-train.html

Leaves permanent scarring too which is somewhat ironic....
  Braddo Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narre Warren
Note the spelling is Macaulay.  The buggers have got into the compound.
bevans
I've seen a lot of graffiti videos. Getting into the sidings is very common (usually the fence is cut with a small pair of boltcutters), and I've even seen footage of people entering train maintenance sheds and vandalising the trains RIGHT IN FRONT of the Connex/Metro staff.

If it's an artistic and visually appealing piece then I'm more than happy for it to be left there but they should be made to remove tagging and any other unsightly pieces of "art".

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