Vineyard duplication construction progress

 
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
In the last week, the govt has talked about extending the proposed duplication to Schofieds on the Richmond line to Riverstone and even Vineyard.

Thie would cost several hundred million dollars.

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  jaseee Chief Train Controller

It's mentioned in this report:

http://www.nsw.gov.au/pdf/Chapter2_uts.pdf

There's some other interesting future projects in there as well which I didn't think was happening (such as grade seperations of Illawarra Jn and Wolli Ck/Sydenham, duplications on the Main North, St Marys-Penrith and Glenfiend-Macarthur, and further easy access upgrades like Museum, St James, Martin Pl, Newtown, Burwood, etc).
  awsgc24 Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney
It's mentioned in this report:

http://www.nsw.gov.au/pdf/Chapter2_uts.pdf

There's some other interesting future projects in there as well which I didn't think was happening (such as grade seperations of Illawarra Jn and Wolli Ck/Sydenham, duplications on the Main North, St Marys-Penrith and Glenfiend-Macarthur, and further easy access upgrades like Museum, St James, Martin Pl, Newtown, Burwood, etc).
"jaseee"


Grade separation of Illawarra Junction - another flying junctions - will be fun to stage and build as there is little space alongside for temporary tracks, Un like Sandgate! Good to see it proposed.
  Goninan Rider Locomotive Driver

Biggest news for Vineyard since the return of the tickeing machine at the station Laughing
  DHT Assistant Commissioner

It's mentioned in this report:

http://www.nsw.gov.au/pdf/Chapter2_uts.pdf

There's some other interesting future projects in there as well which I didn't think was happening (such as grade seperations of Illawarra Jn and Wolli Ck/Sydenham, duplications on the Main North, St Marys-Penrith and Glenfiend-Macarthur, and further easy access upgrades like Museum, St James, Martin Pl, Newtown, Burwood, etc).
"jaseee"


Grade separation of Illawarra Junction - another flying junctions - will be fun to stage and build as there is little space alongside for temporary tracks, Un like Sandgate! Good to see it proposed.
"awsgc24"


Well as much as I want to see these things happen, seeing how far Action for Transport 2010 got, I will believe it when I see it.  Last time I travelled through Ersinkeville I noticed how close the new swanky apartments had come to the rail line.  Is there still enough room for the amplification there?
  blacktails1985 Station Master

If anything is going to happen, it won't be soon. You'll have to wait until the North West Rail Link is finished, the 2nd Harbour crossing, all the Marsden Park and Schofields development, as well as any Airport Line and any extension from the SWRL, wherever they'd go.

Once everything is good and congested, then they'll finally realize they have a problem. Then they''ll start whinging that they don't have enough money to fix it.

I think this will go along VERY slowly and the duplication will keep eating at the Richmond Line until it's eventually done.

Schofields to Riverstone doesn't present much problems.

The only things I can see is if the two overhead bridges aren't high enough or this passage underneath isn't wide enough and that telegraph poles are on the left in a line all the way to Riverstone.

Going from Riverstone to Vineyard shouldn't prove difficult. Maybe where the track curves they might re-align it for better speed. Plus, when you come up to vineyard, you're in a cutting. Not to mention that the platform would have to be upgraded. Maybe the easiest solution would be to add another side platform. But i think the alignment might have to be altered, as once you get past Vineyard, there are houses on the left and right, not to mention a sub-station as well.

The problems start at Mulgrave. As anyone will know, when you come into the station going Down, you have a sharp diverge into the platform, and the Up isn't much better either. I think if they were to do it, they'd have to do a complete realignment of the track and move the station as well. Having to come up and slow all the way down is time consuming.

Step back to Rivo and look at the Meatworks crossing. When you leave Riverstone, the speed goes up, then it goes back down again, since the crossing is unprotected. So the train has to snail across it. It might not seem like a significant loss of time, but it adds up. And besides that, trucks and people should be giving way to the trains, not the other way around. The site is up for lease now, so hopefully they'll vacate the premises so the crossing can be removed.

After leaving Mulgrave, you have 3 bridges and a level crossing to duplicate.

First the South/Wianamatta Creek Bridge, then the Fairey Road Level Crossing. Next are the Macquarie and George Street Bridges. No small task there.

Although there is space at windsor where a passing loop/siding was located, there is a newly erected radio tower on the left, as well as an old derelict building that looks like heritage material.

The Cox Street Pedestrian Crossing (Car access is blocked off) has to be done next andprobably the next biggest task is widening the cutting near the golf course which comes onto the Rickaby's Creek Bridge, which also has to be duplicated. Approaching Clarendon is a cutting that has to be widened also.

Clarendon to East Richmond and from there to Richmond has problems on both sides. There isn't really any room to put the station back to the left, if that was the plan. And there are now houses on the right, which makes the corridor very narrow. On the other side there are houses and station parking. Crossings at Bourke Street and Moray Street too. From there to the points at Richmond Station, is a narrow corridor. I'm not sure what they'd do about that. This area is flanked by houses so there's no real place to go.

So there you go. Just thought I'd put some info up, even though no-one's replied to this thread in years.
  thadocta Chief Commissioner

Location: Katoomba
Is it Easter again? An 8-year dead thread has been resurrected!  Praise the Lord, Hallelujah!
  Throughwestmail Train Controller

Is it Easter again? An 8-year dead thread has been resurrected!  Praise the Lord, Hallelujah!
thadocta
No, I think school holidays are around!!!
  blacktails1985 Station Master

Apparently their must be an 'Easter Troll' going around, as I don't understand what you mean.

I merely provided some feedback to what may well be necessary to duplicate the Richmond Line, and last I checked, Vineyard was on that line.
  thadocta Chief Commissioner

Location: Katoomba
Apparently their must be an 'Easter Troll' going around, as I don't understand what you mean.

I merely provided some feedback to what may well be necessary to duplicate the Richmond Line, and last I checked, Vineyard was on that line.
blacktails1985
Generally, once a thread has been dormant for around nine months or so it is considered dead.

You made a comment after eight YEARS, hence the Easter reference, something dead has been brought back to life. (Or should that be a reference to Lazarus?)

Dave
  michaelgreenhill Administrator That's Numberwang!

Location: Melbourne
Apparently their must be an 'Easter Troll' going around, as I don't understand what you mean.

I merely provided some feedback to what may well be necessary to duplicate the Richmond Line, and last I checked, Vineyard was on that line.
Generally, once a thread has been dormant for around nine months or so it is considered dead.

You made a comment after eight YEARS, hence the Easter reference, something dead has been brought back to life. (Or should that be a reference to Lazarus?)

Dave
thadocta
To resurrect a thread after a year or longer without adding anything of value is frowned upon, and often will earn you a warning, but to resurrect one and actually contribute something to the discussion isn't a bad thing.

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