Pilbara Activity

 
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
There is a rumour that one maybe, don't know much more than that.

In other news, managed to find T387 the other day, involved a 3km round walk, but saw it nonetheless.

Also managed to see Ginny and Ginbata up close.

Images at the usual haunt.

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  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
Well the scrapping of the Dash 8 units has started.

Eight are at Sims Metal with 5646 already being attacked by the hydraulic shears.


Units are from the western end of the yard:
5646
5647
5657
5656
5663
5635
5645
5649
5638
5640
5659

Now some good news, it seems 5630 will be preserved by BHP Billiton.
  djukinX1016 Deputy Commissioner

Thanks for the update Toad, have you any idea of our many Dash 8's are still in service? I take it all the SD40's and AC 6000's are all in pieces?
Good news about 5630 as well.

Regards
Phil
  sar602 Chief Train Controller

Location: Nomadic truckie
What's the plan with 5630 plinthed in a park? business train? Anything happening with PRHS these days? crying shame all those Alco's rusting away. I believe all the SD40r's and AC's were scrapped late last year, sad would of been nice to see a sd40 preserved in espee colors.
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
Thanks for the update Toad, have you any idea of our many Dash 8's are still in service? I take it all the SD40's and AC 6000's are all in pieces?
Good news about 5630 as well.

Regards
Phil
djukinX1016

G'day Phil,

From checking yesterday, I saw 4 Dash 8 units still on mainline duties as 2nd units behind SD70's.
Also another 4 or 5 are still allocated work train duties.

I checked yesterday and AC 6076 has now also been reduced to a pile during the last week.
Yes the SD40 units were cut up first.

Cheers,
Toad.
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
What's the plan with 5630 plinthed in a park? business train? Anything happening with PRHS these days? crying shame all those Alco's rusting away. I believe all the SD40r's and AC's were scrapped late last year, sad would of been nice to see a sd40 preserved in espee colors.
sar602

It could possibly be preserved on site at Nelson Point, near their rail admin building.

PRHS were in negotiation with RIO to have an area constructed to allow everything to be undecover, unsure how this is progressing. No doubt slowly!
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
Roy Hill has off hired the 4 CFCLA CD class units 4301, 4302, 4303 and 4305 and the T class T387.

The CD class are sitting on wooden bogie supports, more than likely from the ES44ACi units, and are currently stored in Wedgefield at NorWest Cranes Yard.

Of interest or note is the fact CD4301 doesn't have any of the ECPB connections, while the other three units do, with some loco pilots having two connectors.



The T class was on a float at Doolan's Yard, also in Wedgefield and disappeared yesterday. Possibly heading south??



So the Roy Hill ES44ACi units will be working any work trains still in operation.
  brunel59 Beginner

Hello,

I will be in Newman on July 7th for work purposes. I hope to sneak out before dinner and watch an ore train or two roll by from one of the overpasses, before leaving Newman early on the 8th.

Not having been to the Pilbara before, I would appreciate any suggestions for timings or alternative viewing locations? I won't be able to go far out of town.

Earlier today I checked out the Toads excellent website and noted what information I could. I was led to believe that the trains don't follow a timetable per se, but run on an as need basis. Is this still the case? Also, are BHP still running 14 trains a day from Newman?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry to intrude,
brunel59
  ebr1 Junior Train Controller

CD's due to be unloaded at Cape Lambert this weekend.to be used in the yard.

Cheers ebr1
  M636C Minister for Railways

Hello,

I will be in Newman on July 7th for work purposes. I hope to sneak out before dinner and watch an ore train or two roll by from one of the overpasses, before leaving Newman early on the 8th.

Not having been to the Pilbara before, I would appreciate any suggestions for timings or alternative viewing locations? I won't be able to go far out of town.

Earlier today I checked out the Toads excellent website and noted what information I could. I was led to believe that the trains don't follow a timetable per se, but run on an as need basis. Is this still the case? Also, are BHP still running 14 trains a day from Newman?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry to intrude,
brunel59
brunel59

The first place that comes to mind is the Great Northern Highway bridge just north of town.

It makes a good photo in the morning, in the afternoon the train would be a bit back lit.

It is a while since I've been there but I recall there was a lookout on the north east side of town where you could see the Mt Whaleback mine and the loadout (from some distance), and it might be worth checking from there whether there is a train ready to leave before heading to the bridge.

If you head out on the Marble Bar road, that runs parallel to the line to Hedland for some distance and Jimblebar Junction with its triangle crossing the road is a place where trains can be combined for the trip north. Photos are better in the morning from the Marble Bar road but you might get to the Western side by driving across the crossing on the access road where it separates from the Marble Bar road.

Only trains from Mt Whaleback pass the GN Highway bridge, so it is worth checking Jimblebar Junction, where trains from both mines pass.

M636C
  djukinX1016 Deputy Commissioner

CD's due to be unloaded at Cape Lambert this weekend.to be used in the yard.

Cheers ebr1
ebr1
Thanks, very interesting to hear that the CD's are moving and getting more work.
Regards
Phil
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Roy Hill has off hired the 4 CFCLA CD class units 4301, 4302, 4303 and 4305 and the T class T387.

The T class was on a float at Doolan's Yard, also in Wedgefield and disappeared yesterday. Possibly heading south??
"Toad Montgomery"


T387 was reported as being seen on the Sturt Hwy near Hay in NSW last week.
  M636C Minister for Railways

CD's due to be unloaded at Cape Lambert this weekend.to be used in the yard.

Cheers ebr1
ebr1

There were indications that CF4405/6 had moved back to Seven Mile.

At least four of the CFs might return to the main lines now.

M636C
  M636C Minister for Railways

Of interest or note is the fact CD4301 doesn't have any of the ECPB connections, while the other three units do, with some loco pilots having two connectors.
Toad Montgomery

4301 was refurbished earlier for FMG duplication and construction of the Solomon line.

The other three were modified together.

Do all operators (BHPB, FMG, Roy Hill, Rio Tinto) have ECP connectors on the same side?

M636C
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
There were indications that CF4405/6 had moved back to Seven Mile.

At least four of the CFs might return to the main lines now.
"M636C"
The CF's do not, nor have they ever, run on a revenue train for Rio Tinto. They are strictly for use as yard shunters.
  M636C Minister for Railways

The CF's do not, nor have they ever, run on a revenue train for Rio Tinto. They are strictly for use as yard shunters.
KRviator
A bad choice of words by me there...

I meant that four of the CFs may return to the ARTC network now that the CDs are available, and maybe return to the Hunter Valley.

Leon Oberg, who has good contacts within CFCLA, said that Rio wanted the CDs and not the CFs initially....

But to get back to CF4405/6, they must have run up to Western Creek junction and Emu to get from Cape Lambert to Seven Mile.

They would probably have been hauled by a cab signal equipped locomotive.

However. I doubt that any more CDs will be converted.

Trains magazine indicate that Rio are getting 51 more ES44ACi units, so they might not need the CDs for long.

M636C
  djukinX1016 Deputy Commissioner

The CF's do not, nor have they ever, run on a revenue train for Rio Tinto. They are strictly for use as yard shunters.
KRviator
I thought that they do haul trains between 9 Mile & Dampier Port though ?
  M636C Minister for Railways

I thought that they do haul trains between 9 Mile & Dampier Port though ?
djukinX1016
I have to admit that I haven't seen them doing that, but checking on 4Trak last week showed 4405 and 4406 stopped at the ballast siding at the two mile, where I've seen empty rakes waiting on return from the dumper. Right now (as I post this) they are up at the highway end of the Seven Mile yard, coupled together, possibly on an empty rake returned from the dumper. It was good that their ARTC radios are still powered up, unlike the other four CFs .

M636C
  brunel59 Beginner

The first place that comes to mind is the Great Northern Highway bridge just north of town.

It makes a good photo in the morning, in the afternoon the train would be a bit back lit.

It is a while since I've been there but I recall there was a lookout on the north east side of town where you could see the Mt Whaleback mine and the loadout (from some distance), and it might be worth checking from there whether there is a train ready to leave before heading to the bridge.

If you head out on the Marble Bar road, that runs parallel to the line to Hedland for some distance and Jimblebar Junction with its triangle crossing the road is a place where trains can be combined for the trip north. Photos are better in the morning from the Marble Bar road but you might get to the Western side by driving across the crossing on the access road where it separates from the Marble Bar road.

Only trains from Mt Whaleback pass the GN Highway bridge, so it is worth checking Jimblebar Junction, where trains from both mines pass.

M636C
M636C

Thanks for your assistance, M636C. Much appreciated!
  poxbox3030 Train Controller

Location: Train Control
I have to admit that I haven't seen them doing that, but checking on 4Trak last week showed 4405 and 4406 stopped at the ballast siding at the two mile, where I've seen empty rakes waiting on return from the dumper. Right now (as I post this) they are up at the highway end of the Seven Mile yard, coupled together, possibly on an empty rake returned from the dumper. It was good that their ARTC radios are still powered up, unlike the other four CFs .

M636C
M636C
I can confirm that at 7 Mile, the CF locos are used regularly to collect the empty train from the EII dumper. They can also be used to collect empty trains from Parker Point dumpers too. The only thing they are not allowed to do is haul loaded trains to the dumpers.

They can run pretty much anywhere from Parker Point to just before the 18.1 crossing as this is all fixed signal territory.
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
Only real change up here over the last few months is Roy Hill has started operating ore trains.

From observations an empty has been departing the their yard with 232 cars and four ES44ACi locomotives around 0700 most mornings.
This crosses a loaded at Marubeni Loop located at the Yule River, 150 km area.
The loaded trains are run as two half rake trains of two ES44ACi units and 116 ore cars with the second train arriving at their yard around 1500-1600 most afternoons.
Train control system is currently still train orders.

The other two Hedland operators have both suffered a derailment each a couple of weeks ago, with only minimal disruption to traffic.

FMG look to have 5 SD90MAC units stored, being 910, 911, 912, 915 and 917.

Rio still run almost all triple headed unit trains, with most FMG trains observed of late being only double headers.

Roy Hill has taken delivery of it's track geometry car, coded ZM.

BHP has also taken delivery of a new Mermec track recorder car in a bright yellow livery, possibly a Roger 800 model.

  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
Okay, Roy Hill took delivery of four more ES44ACi units, numbered RHA1015 to RHA1018 on the 30th and 31st of December.
Serial numbers for them should be 63826-63829, build date of September 2015.

Vessel doing the delivery was BBC Houston.

The last three are due around April sometime.







  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!
BHP Billiton Iron Ore have taken delivery of another 4 SD70ACe units over the last couple of days.

Jumbo vessel MV Fairlane delivered them, and this vessels' last port was Dampier so I guess it off-loaded 4 ES44ACi units for Rio while there?

Anyway, units delivered to BHP via Gilbert Street and Gate 9 as per usual practice these days.
Now the task of removing the 28 redundant Dash 8 units from Nelson Point to Wedgefield starts.

Here's a couple of pics of 4490 and 4491.









Happy tracks from the Pilbara.
  M636C Minister for Railways


Roy Hill has taken delivery of it's track geometry car, coded ZM.

BHP has also taken delivery of a new Mermec track recorder car in a bright yellow livery, possibly a Roger 800 model.

Toad Montgomery
It looks even bigger than the Roger 800s in Sydney, although the different colour scheme might cause that...

M636C
  Toad Montgomery Chief Commissioner

Location: Port Hedland: Team EMU want's YOU!

Roy Hill has taken delivery of it's track geometry car, coded ZM.

BHP has also taken delivery of a new Mermec track recorder car in a bright yellow livery, possibly a Roger 800 model.

It looks even bigger than the Roger 800s in Sydney, although the different colour scheme might cause that...

M636C
M636C

I was thinking it might have been a 1000 myself. But the specs for this unit as printed on the side sill say it's 22.87m long overall with a height of 4.115m and a tare of 65 tonnes.
Wheel diameter of 920/840mm.

It must have been on order for a while, the Mermec RCDU has a date stamp with BHP of 2014, while the ELH bogies are stamped 2015.

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