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  Btone Locomotive Fireman

I thought the general understanding was that Auscision said the licenses for both liveries (assuming my hunch that they are both from the countrylink era is correct) were too expensive to merit being done. Is there any truth to that or evidence have gone back on similar things they've said with different locos in their past? Only ask cause if it isn't then case I may need to visit cash converters to get $600

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  Draffa Chief Commissioner

FB Post tonight reveals that the two SSR special editions are now sold out.
Mine arrived in the post on the 21st, but I only actually got them today (everything goes to a PO box).
I really should get off my smeg and finish these module frames so i can start laying track, but house maintainence takes precedence.
You're a man who has his priorities all arze-about-face mate!!! hahaha....House maintenance can wait for another 6 months; easy!!! hahaha
Roachie
I'm currently painting things.
I hate painting.  Hate it.
So much hate.
So I have to get it done before summer hits.  As it is it's going to be showering for the next six days after today.
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
I thought the general understanding was that Auscision said the licenses for both liveries (assuming my hunch that they are both from the countrylink era is correct) were too expensive to merit being done. Is there any truth to that or evidence have gone back on similar things they've said with different locos in their past? Only ask cause if it isn't then case I may need to visit cash converters to get $600
Btone
Olympics livery. The IOC would need to allow use of the logo, something they don't do for past events.
Centenary of Federation Livery. The controlling body no longer exists, licensing would be an expensive nightmare.

Thankfully there are other liveries that could be done:
"Starlight Foundation". A donation for logo use makes this a highly probable candidate.
"NSW Trains". Too easy, just don't apply the Countrylink logo.
There's also another minor livery variation that I can't remember right now.

edit, now I remember. There's nose only Starlight Express wording on XP2006, and XP2013 with full logo on side.
  FirstStopCentral Chief Train Controller

I thought the general understanding was that Auscision said the licenses for both liveries (assuming my hunch that they are both from the countrylink era is correct) were too expensive to merit being done. Is there any truth to that or evidence have gone back on similar things they've said with different locos in their past? Only ask cause if it isn't then case I may need to visit cash converters to get $600
Olympics livery. The IOC would need to allow use of the logo, something they don't do for past events.
Centenary of Federation Livery. The controlling body no longer exists, licensing would be an expensive nightmare.

Thankfully there are other liveries that could be done:
"Starlight Foundation". A donation for logo use makes this a highly probable candidate.
"NSW Trains". Too easy, just don't apply the Countrylink logo.
There's also another minor livery variation that I can't remember right now.

edit, now I remember. There's nose only Starlight Express wording on XP2006, and XP2013 with full logo on side.
Poath Junction
There's also the original CountryLink livery with no wording on the side, and then there's the...

No, won't spoil the surprise...

Paul
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
XP2011 - NAIDOC mk2 is another candidate.
  dmg_01 Station Staff

There was also a variation of the original SRA red livery that did not include the intercity wording. XPT was written in bold white letters. I remember it being pictured in a Railway Digest article about 20 years of operation for the prototype.
  Btone Locomotive Fireman

Thanks poath, thought I read that somewhere but wasn't sure where. My 5 car country link set will have to keep me happy then Very Happy
  M636C Minister for Railways

There was also a variation of the original SRA red livery that did not include the intercity wording. XPT was written in bold white letters. I remember it being pictured in a Railway Digest article about 20 years of operation for the prototype.
"dmg_01"


That variation occurred after sectorisation when the name "Inter City" went to the then Cityrail for their longer distance services...

At least one XPT power car had the words "Inter City" removed and the letters "XPT" were painted in solid white rather than outline on the standard scheme. The original XPT lettering was a direct rip-oof of the lettering on the British Rail APT-P electric tilt train with "XPT" substituted for "APT".

While still on topic for this thread, does anybody know what Auscision propose for the second V set power car for the thirty year commemorative livery. There was only ever one car with yellow and blue stripes on the end. The other three power cars had red and orange stripes on the end.

M636C
  2LaGrange Train Controller

While still on topic for this thread, does anybody know what Auscision propose for the second V set power car for the thirty year commemorative livery. There was only ever one car with yellow and blue stripes on the end. The other three power cars had red and orange stripes on the end.

M636C
I would say you have answered your own question there, I am sure they are aware of the fact that only one power car had blue and yellow stripes and model would be as per prototype.

Looking forward to XPTs and any surprise loco Liveries they produce.

Certainly been a very productive year with so much arriving from Auscision and my wallet is in melt down but its great we are spoilt with so many choices.
  Jack Le Lievre Chief Train Controller

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
C44's.  Announced on the blog in October 2012 and and according to the blog scheduled for production in 2013.  Shouldn't be far away. Probably early 2016.
ed31880

I spoke with Pete at Caulfield and he was saying that they were having problems at the factory with getting them right, and he was hessonite, but was hoping that they would be here before Chinese New Year, which falls on February 8th next year.


Jack
  VR_King Junior Train Controller

anyone have any ideas whn the Tait and Harris order forms will be out?
  ed31880 Train Controller

While still on topic for this thread, does anybody know what Auscision propose for the second V set power car for the thirty year commemorative livery. There was only ever one car with yellow and blue stripes on the end. The other three power cars had red and orange stripes on the end.

M636C
I would say you have answered your own question there, I am sure they are aware of the fact that only one power car had blue and yellow stripes and model would be as per prototype.

Looking forward to XPTs and any surprise loco Liveries they produce.

Certainly been a very productive year with so much arriving from Auscision and my wallet is in melt down but its great we are spoilt with so many choices.
2LaGrange
And still lots, lots more to come.  With 48/830 class, 43 class, flat top T class (cut away valance), C44's, X class, Tangara, 45 class (O scale), Southern Aurora cars and NLDF vans all mentioned on their blog as arriving in 2015, still to come,
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.

Hot off the facebook page, car carrier samples.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner
  Piston Train Controller

Car carrier samples have arrived:

https://m.facebook.com/136260326407914/photos/a.136264289740851.18637.136260326407914/1019491211418150/?type=1&source=48&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.1019491211418150&__tn__=E
You gave it a good try, but trying to beat Poath is futile Smile
lkernan
You mean the Minister for Announcements?
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.


Fresh from the Ministry of Announcements, the unannounced XPT!
  Erail Locomotive Fireman

silly question maybe but does anyone know how long the 7 set XPT will be? I'm guessing about 1.9M?????
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Quoting, quoting & quoting makes it to hard when you need to use small devices

I can't see a number of the pictures/videos, they are just showing blank & that includes using CTRL + F5 / F5 (Edit - I need to go to edit post, and then get out of the post to see them.

Erail, why don't you go to the NSW TrainLink site, and look for how long a real XPT is in metres. Divide the total by 3.048 to get feet.
Then times THAT new total by 3.5 mm to get 1 ft = 3½ mm.
(It might sound a hard to do it, but that's the easiest way)

Then just measure off in either millimetres or centimetres on a HO layout - that's if they're near the correct real size of course.

Other than that, I'd like to now how oversize I think it's Lima their XPT's were. I believe that they were even oversize for OO scale.

Now the main subject:
XPT-8 is the 150th anniversary of Main(1) NSW Railways XP car, yet it shows the latest the latest CountryLink livery.

But I thought that the latest CountryLink livery is only a few years old or so. 150th anniversary with the latest CountryLink livery? I'd thought a 150th anniversary would have the early blue CountryLink livery - the one with the triangles on the XP car.

1. Of course that doesn't take into account of the even earlier AA&C railway in Newcastle, in the late 1820's / early 1830's.
  kingfisher Chief Train Controller


Now the main subject:
XPT-8 is the 150th anniversary of Main(1) NSW Railways XP car, yet it shows the latest the latest CountryLink livery.

But I thought that the latest CountryLink livery is only a few years old or so. 150th anniversary with the latest CountryLink livery? I'd thought a 150th anniversary would have the early blue CountryLink livery - the one with the triangles on the XP car.
Newcastle Express
I suggest you read the "Prototype Overview" for the XPT on their web site for the explanation.
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Okay thanks Kingfisher, forget that was there at the bottom.

I just had a quick look & it said it came in 2006, still a year after the 150th, but I'm in a bit of a hurry at the moment.

YIKES, that last livery started to come in 9 years ago already!
  Poath Junction Chief Commissioner

Location: In front of a computer most of the time.
Quoting, quoting & quoting makes it to hard when you need to use small devices.
Newcastle Express
Hence the Railpage mobile interface. https://www.railpage.com.au/?handheld=true
  Newcastle Express Chief Commissioner

Erail, why don't you go to the NSW TrainLink site, and look for how long a real XPT is in metres. Divide the total by 3.048 to get feet.
Then times THAT new total by 3.5 mm to get 1 ft = 3½ mm.
(It might sound a hard to do it, but that's the easiest way)
Newcastle Express

Erail, I need to correct my previous post about length.

It's length in metres X 3.048 = total in feet, not dividing by 3.048 as I wrongly stated before
(3.048 if you want exact metre to feet distances)

(Sorry about that Chief!)

Length of real object in metres X 3.048 = Total in feet
Total in feet x 3.5mm = the HO distance

XP power cars are 17.3 metres long, and
the carriages are 24.2 m long

EG:
XP's = 17.3 X 3.048 = 52.73 ft
1 HO XP should be 18.46 cm (184.6mm) long (52.73 X 3.5mm)
Hmm, they are short!

XPT Carriage = 24.3 x 3.048 = 73.76 ft
1 HO XPT carriage should be 25.82 cm (258.2 mm) long

So a 7 car HO XPT (2 XPs & 5 XPT carriages) if near the correct length should = ________ (well you can work out that answer for yourself)
  SA_trains Deputy Commissioner

Location: ACT
So I guess that if I was going to figure out the length of a XPT consist, and the publisher length is in metres, then I would just divide by 87 (technically 87.1, but who's counting!)

Seems to be simpler math to me!
  br30453 Chief Train Controller

Erail, why don't you go to the NSW TrainLink site, and look for how long a real XPT is in metres. Divide the total by 3.048 to get feet.
Then times THAT new total by 3.5 mm to get 1 ft = 3½ mm.
(It might sound a hard to do it, but that's the easiest way)

Erail, I need to correct my previous post about length.

It's length in metres X 3.048 = total in feet, not dividing by 3.048 as I wrongly stated before
(3.048 if you want exact metre to feet distances)

(Sorry about that Chief!)

Length of real object in metres X 3.048 = Total in feet
Total in feet x 3.5mm = the HO distance

XP power cars are 17.3 metres long, and
the carriages are 24.2 m long

EG:
XP's = 17.3 X 3.048 = 52.73 ft
1 HO XP should be 18.46 cm (184.6mm) long (52.73 X 3.5mm)
Hmm, they are short!

XPT Carriage = 24.3 x 3.048 = 73.76 ft
1 HO XPT carriage should be 25.82 cm (258.2 mm) long

So a 7 car HO XPT (2 XPs & 5 XPT carriages) if near the correct length should = ________ (well you can work out that answer for yourself)
Newcastle Express
To convert metres to feet either divide by 0.3048 or multiply by 3.28 not 3.048. 3.28 is the reciprocal of 0.3048.
But as SA_Trains said just divide by 87 which is the ratio of full size to HO.

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