Spirit of the Outback sleepers - $$$$

 
  jofegan Station Staff

I haven't yet travelled on the Spirit of the Outback and got a quote for travel between Brisbane and Longreach in a cabin for two.  Surprising that they don't post their fares on the website - and was more surprised that we were quoted $1050.  Are they trying to turn this train into a "cruise train" like the Indian Pacific/Ghan?

Anybody know if there is a discount fare/bucket for cabins on this train?

thanks,

-J

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  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner

I haven't yet travelled on the Spirit of the Outback and got a quote for travel between Brisbane and Longreach in a cabin for two.  Surprising that they don't post their fares on the website - and was more surprised that we were quoted $1050.  Are they trying to turn this train into a "cruise train" like the Indian Pacific/Ghan?

Anybody know if there is a discount fare/bucket for cabins on this train?

thanks,

-J
jofegan
The Spirit of the Outback has been marketed as a cruise train for a couple of decades...there's only First class sleeping accommodation available on this train, although there's usually some discounting at times during the year.
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
Go to the traveltrain website. There is a 25% off special on offer.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Go to the traveltrain website. There is a 25% off special on offer.
locojoe67


There's always discounted fares these days QR is bleeding long distance pax.

You can also sit up in the Economy section of the train for a fraction of that price and there is ALWAYS lots of room to spread out in Economy as well .

Bear in mind the 'twin' sleepers are actually roomette sleepers with the wall removed between two beds IE, as roomette sleepers run the length of the carriage, the beds are one behind the other with two basins, two doors etc.

You will get as far as I can recall at least 6 meals in the First Class single journey fare as well.

http://www.queenslandrailtravel.com.au/RailServices/Documents/spirit-of-the-outback/SOB%20Menu%202015_June_web.pdf

All the former twinette sleepers have now retired.

Mike.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Go to the traveltrain website. There is a 25% off special on offer.


There's always discounted fares these days QR is bleeding long distance pax.

You can also sit up in the Economy section of the train for a fraction of that price and there is ALWAYS lots of room to spread out in Economy as well .

Bear in mind the 'twin' sleepers are actually roomette sleepers with the wall removed between two beds IE, as roomette sleepers run the length of the carriage, the beds are one behind the other with two basins, two doors etc.

You will get as far as I can recall at least 6 meals in the First Class single journey fare as well.

http://www.queenslandrailtravel.com.au/RailServices/Documents/spirit-of-the-outback/SOB%20Menu%202015_June_web.pdf

All the former twinette sleepers have now retired.

Mike.
The Vinelander
Sort of dispells the myth on the CTT that people don't like the new train.

The SOTO is still a traditional lander, yet it too has been dying. When I first moved to Gladstone in 1998, it was longer than the station (which is quite long). Before I left in 2009, it looked more like older photos of the Westie. The Sunlander was the same, it was always much longer and needed two station stops at Gladstone with each half almost full platform length. I think it fitted on the station in the later years.
  jofegan Station Staff

Thanks for your replies.

I saw lots of comments over at tripadvisor about how small the two-person cabins actually are - I'm wondering if it would be easier for us just to book two single cabins (we don't have to sleep together all of the time!!).

We took the Westlander to Charleville a few years ago when they still ran the sleepers.  The price was a heckuvalot cheaper and we had run of the train almost to ourselves - there were only 3 other people in the sleepers and maybe a half-dozen people in coach.  I regret not riding any more QLD overnight services at that time - I'll never get to ride the Inlander to Mt Isa in sleeper class, and the main reason for wanting to take this trip to Longreach is out of fear that it will also be discontinued or downgraded sometime in the future.

-j
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Thanks for your replies.
I'll never get to ride the Inlander to Mt Isa in sleeper class, and the main reason for wanting to take this trip to Longreach is out of fear that it will also be discontinued or downgraded sometime in the future.

-j
jofegan

I'm an avid TripAdvisor contributor and IMO many of those writers are judging a sleeping berth having never travelled in a narrow gauge sleeper before, so aren't used to travelling in them. All said and done they are for sleeping in, not doing acrobatics and if one wants to have extra space there's the lounge car for that purpose which is open all night.

You'll be lucky to get the two actual roomette berths in any of the three or four sleeping cars of the SotO as they book out fast.

There are no plans to withdraw the SotO as there's been a significant investment in the lounge and dining cars and from practical experience many pax are paying the 1st Class fare and the sleepers are regularly booked out.

In the next month I'll be undertaking (enduring) an overnight journey on the Inlander so I'll be happy to report on the loadings etc for that journey to Townsville.

Mike.
  lynne kramme Beginner

Does Queensland Rail offer a single person or single berth sleeper?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Does Queensland Rail offer a single person or single berth sleeper?
lynne kramme

On the Spirit of the Outback only.
  jofegan Station Staff

Does Queensland Rail offer a single person or single berth sleeper?

On the Spirit of the Outback only.
The Vinelander
Train on Tuesdays leaves Brisbane at 610P and gets into Longreach Wednesday at 715P - anyone know which evening they serve dinner - Tues or Weds (or both)?

Thx

-j
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
I received an email today saying that a lounge area is going to be introduced to the Westlander and Inlander and that the Spirit of the Outback will be getting four economy class sleepers. Does anyone here have anymore details or pictures of the changes?
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

I received an email today saying that a lounge area is going to be introduced to the Westlander and Inlander and that the Spirit of the Outback will be getting four economy class sleepers. Does anyone here have anymore details or pictures of the changes?
GeoffreyHansen

I also got this email today, with the prospect for single economy sleepers being quite exciting. Sadly, I do not know more about what it looks like.

But, I would like to know the price that will be charged for the 'new' economy single sleeper. I might try the online booking site, but that has never been helpful in the past for sleeper fares.
At face value, it sounds quite a good option, especially for the privacy factor alone (something that economy sleeper passengers have never had before). I also wonder where in the consist the sleepers will be located. In the staff car?
  craigfitz1 Train Controller

I received an email today saying that a lounge area is going to be introduced to the Westlander and Inlander and that the Spirit of the Outback will be getting four economy class sleepers. Does anyone here have anymore details or pictures of the changes?

I also got this email today, with the prospect for single economy sleepers being quite exciting. Sadly, I do not know more about what it looks like.

But, I would like to know the price that will be charged for the 'new' economy single sleeper. I might try the online booking site, but that has never been helpful in the past for sleeper fares.
At face value, it sounds quite a good option, especially for the privacy factor alone (something that economy sleeper passengers have never had before). I also wonder where in the consist the sleepers will be located. In the staff car?
craigfitz1
answered my own question.
Just saw a 'B Quick' adult fare for $244 for an economy sleeper to Longreach in October, $315 for 'A-Choice'.
Seems pretty good value to me, for 24+ hours of sleeper travel.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I received an email today saying that a lounge area is going to be introduced to the Westlander and Inlander and that the Spirit of the Outback will be getting four economy class sleepers. Does anyone here have anymore details or pictures of the changes?

I also got this email today, with the prospect for single economy sleepers being quite exciting. Sadly, I do not know more about what it looks like.

But, I would like to know the price that will be charged for the 'new' economy single sleeper. I might try the online booking site, but that has never been helpful in the past for sleeper fares.
At face value, it sounds quite a good option, especially for the privacy factor alone (something that economy sleeper passengers have never had before). I also wonder where in the consist the sleepers will be located. In the staff car?
answered my own question.
Just saw a 'B Quick' adult fare for $244 for an economy sleeper to Longreach in October, $315 for 'A-Choice'.
Seems pretty good value to me, for 24+ hours of sleeper travel.
craigfitz1

Some changes as Craig says...

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Mike
  GeoffreyHansen Minister for Railways

Location: In a FAM sleeper
Would there be merit in QR introducing economy class sleepers similar to GSR's former red class sleepers?
  locojoe67 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Gen X purgatory/urban Joh-land
I daresay economy class sleepers are catering to a statistically insignificant demographic.

Young and broke means more comfort and extra cost of a sleeper may not be an option. Especially as air travel has gotten so much cheaper over the years.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Would there be merit in QR introducing economy class sleepers similar to GSR's former red class sleepers?
GeoffreyHansen
Been there done that. They had them, not popular by me at least. I booked Roomette, share 1st sleeper or seater in old BC cars. Did one trip in EC sleeper, never again on QR.
  Edenslanding Rail Junior Train Controller

Location: Edenslanding Qld
Here's the layout for the refurbished L Series Sleepers.

  Tristans Station Master

I traveled on the SOTO last week and found the L sleepers to be quite comfortable. With the single sleepers converted to twin, each person had their own window and neither need to climb up to a top bunk.
The downside of the journey was having to travel via bus, twice, between Emerald and Longreach (and back) after a bridge was hit and then a train derailed ... certainly spoilt part of the trip.

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