RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
I'm jealous.

If you're heading to Casterton / Hamilton area, may I suggest you nip down to Dartmoor and take some shots of the bridge over the Glenelg River. Yes it's a relatively new concrete structure, but I think it would be worthwhile getting some as is shots before it's either rail-trailed with chainwire fencing or having a section lifted to prevent people crossing.

Not that I know anything about any of that. I just think it's good to get photos of modern infrastructure while it's still there....

Rick

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  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
I'm jealous.

If you're heading to Casterton / Hamilton area, may I suggest you nip down to Dartmoor and take some shots of the bridge over the Glenelg River. Yes it's a relatively new concrete structure, but I think it would be worthwhile getting some as is shots before it's either rail-trailed with chainwire fencing or having a section lifted to prevent people crossing.

Not that I know anything about any of that. I just think it's good to get photos of modern infrastructure while it's still there....

Rick
RustyRick
I have a trip planned to go down that way, but it involves going up through Horsham to do Cavendish and Kanagulk, so Dartmoor is a bit out of the way. I also have a plan to do Timboon, Warrnambool and Dartmoor as a separate exercise, and long as the old wagon holds up.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
What some gunzels in the USA have been recording

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/fantastic-csx-freight-train-footage-from-a-highdef-drone
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
There's always a possibility that the Dartmoor bridge will be bought back into use one day but probably not any time soon.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Here is the clip shot out at Clarkefield of the Bolinda Creek Trestle:





https://youtu.be/knafvXVGZ3U
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Bloody beauty, Blacksmith!  Nicely done indeed - I'm going to put you up for the Distinguished Flying Cross ( spelt out because some idiotic computer whiz won't let me use the initials.).
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
I have a trip planned to go down that way, but it involves going up through Horsham to do Cavendish and Kanagulk, so Dartmoor is a bit out of the way.
TheBlacksmith
Thanks for that superb footage of the Bolinda Creek trestle, truly amazing to get footage that once would have only been possible by helicopter. I'll be very keen to see the footage of Cavendish trestle, I think its one of the few that are publicly accessible - but I have no idea what the condition will be like 36 years since closure.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Bloody beauty, Blacksmith!  Nicely done indeed - I'm going to put you up for the Distinguished Flying Cross ( spelt out because some idiotic computer whiz won't let me use the initials.).
Valvegear
That would be because of a very uncomplimentary use of those initials that used to be in common use here... Smile
  RustyRick Chief Commissioner

Location: South West Vic
Very good. It's a really stable platform. My Christmas wish list just got very expensive  
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Very very nice. Not bad for someone who only just got it. The fact you were able to cirlce around it and keep in shot is very impressive. You just answered one of my questions on the Phantom.SmileSmileSmile
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Very very nice. Not bad for someone who only just got it. The fact you were able to cirlce around it and keep in shot is very impressive. You just answered one of my questions on the Phantom.SmileSmileSmile
RTT_Rules
Ah yes, I have to admit the circling bit is all done by the Phantom, part of a manoeuvre called Point Of Interest. All I had to do was keep the camera framed correctly, and I did not do too good a job of that because I kept watching the aircraft instead. I still don't trust it to not fly away.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
That decaying infrastructure worries me. There was a nice big tree against the bottom of the trestle just waiting for the next flood to collect more debris and then take the whole lot out. Who knows what damage a trestle of that size could do downstream. I don't know if there are recoverable timbers for use elsewhere (I know of one bloke who recovered timber bridge beams and built them into his house as a feature), otherwise it needs a lit match thrown at it....  
3l diesel
Yes, it is exactly that sentiment that drives me to photograph these bridges while they are still there. The bridge is now on private property, it is NO RISK to anyone, as they should not be on the property without permission. And the lit match comment will not go down well here with CFA members....
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Very very nice. Not bad for someone who only just got it. The fact you were able to cirlce around it and keep in shot is very impressive. You just answered one of my questions on the Phantom.SmileSmileSmile
Ah yes, I have to admit the circling bit is all done by the Phantom, part of a manoeuvre called Point Of Interest. All I had to do was keep the camera framed correctly, and I did not do too good a job of that because I kept watching the aircraft instead. I still don't trust it to not fly away.
TheBlacksmith
Thanks, I was wondering how this was done on the Phantom vs the Inspire where you can have a go driver. Phantom here I come!
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Any plans to do the Algebuckina bridge in Northern SA - that would look great from the drone I'm sure ! Also, not sure if I've already mentioned the Cudgewa line but I'm sure it would be on your list... you could probably burn a lot of petrol doing Victoria alone couldn't you.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
What do you know, someone has already done it:



Algebuckina Bridge by PTCX
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Any plans to do the Algebuckina bridge in Northern SA - that would look great from the drone I'm sure ! Also, not sure if I've already mentioned the Cudgewa line but I'm sure it would be on your list... you could probably burn a lot of petrol doing Victoria alone couldn't you.
don_dunstan

So far I have enough to do in Victoria, and I don't think the old Foulcan would make it that far anyway. I'm about to spend more than it is worth to put a new diff in it, currently it makes about a litre of diff whine per hour.

That clip is a bit sad, the camera is being hosed all over the place and spoils the whole exercise. Covering a bridge does not require Grand Prix speeds or sudden movements.

Yesterday I went up to cover the Mollison's Creek bridge at Pyalong. I got some good still shots, but committed the greatest photographer's sin, I left the SD card for the Phantom back home. I think I will be making myself some nice laminated checklists. Fortunately, my wife has a dog show in Kilmore in a couple of week's time so I will return to get the moving images.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
So far I have enough to do in Victoria, and I don't think the old Foulcan would make it that far anyway. I'm about to spend more than it is worth to put a new diff in it, currently it makes about a litre of diff whine per hour.
TheBlacksmith
Not suitable for the Oodnadatta track, no.

I'm not someone who spends big $$$ on cars either. I recently upgraded to a 2003 BA Foulcan and my friends and family are thrilled that I finally own a car from this century...

That clip is a bit sad, the camera is being hosed all over the place and spoils the whole exercise. Covering a bridge does not require Grand Prix speeds or sudden movements.
TheBlacksmith
I agree, too fast and too much needless panning around for no reason.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
So far I have enough to do in Victoria, and I don't think the old Foulcan would make it that far anyway. I'm about to spend more than it is worth to put a new diff in it, currently it makes about a litre of diff whine per hour.
Not suitable for the Oodnadatta track, no.

I'm not someone who spends big $$$ on cars either. I recently upgraded to a 2003 BA Foulcan and my friends and family are thrilled that I finally own a car from this century...

don_dunstan
We sold our 2003 BA Fairmont to the Mother In Law in 2010 when we left Australia. Must have been ok despite the old lady bumping into a few Kanagroos because their house (10ac near Tamborine) was broken into during the day while they were out. They took a spare key and came back at night and stole the car sight unseen. E-toll is a wonderful thing when you are in Dubai watching the car drive back and forward across Brisbane. Phone the police to tell them. 3 days later 1 day before the insurance automatically pays out they get a call to come and get the car, only the number plates was correct!

But yes cars can be a money pit.
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
Yesterday I took my Phantom up to the maximum altitude of 500 Metres above my property for a quick look. I have to be careful because there is a popular light aircraft track that runs dead over the top of me, so I only stayed there for a minute, but the view was amazing. And you could have sworn the camera was mounted on a pole, not the tiniest bit of drift of movement, even though the aircraft reported wind gust of 35 Kmh at that altitude.



https://youtu.be/75z3d0uHw1w
The Blacksmith
If you were flying your drone at 500m AGL knowing full well there is a GA lane above your property, you're a smeg idiot. IIRC, UAV's are limited to 400' AGL unless flown in an approved area or by an approved operator in conjunction with CASA approvals, the reason for this is the low height limit for manned aircraft is 500' AGL. As a GA pilot drones scare me more than birds do, as even a small drone would be more than enough to bring my plane down if it hits it at 160 knots.
  woodford Chief Commissioner

I've been browsing your South Gippsland photos - interesting to see where there have been efforts at preservation and public access. It's a shame they couldn't preserve bridges in many places where a trail has been put in; or that the nanny brigade has decided there's a risk to the public by trying to restore the original bridge. I noticed a few years ago when I was exploring the Lake Eildon area that the bridges have mostly been replaced along the length of the line which is a shame.
don_dunstan
Most of the bridges along the old Mansfield line were none existent or in very poor condition. It costs big bucks to rebuild a trestle bridge. From memory it cost Puffing Billy over $100.000 (volunteer labor) to rebuild the small 10 span Cockatoo creek bridge, 2 ft long 3/4 inch galvanised  bolts were something like $35 each and each trestle used 20 of them. A large trestle bridge like one sees on the Cudgewa line could have 60 of these bolts per trestle. So one can easily see why alternatives have been used.

woodford
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Yesterday I took my Phantom up to the maximum altitude of 500 Metres above my property for a quick look. I have to be careful because there is a popular light aircraft track that runs dead over the top of me, so I only stayed there for a minute, but the view was amazing. And you could have sworn the camera was mounted on a pole, not the tiniest bit of drift of movement, even though the aircraft reported wind gust of 35 Kmh at that altitude.



https://youtu.be/75z3d0uHw1w
If you were flying your drone at 500m AGL knowing full well there is a GA lane above your property, you're a smeg idiot. IIRC, UAV's are limited to 400' AGL unless flown in an approved area or by an approved operator in conjunction with CASA approvals, the reason for this is the low height limit for manned aircraft is 500' AGL. As a GA pilot drones scare me more than birds do, as even a small drone would be more than enough to bring my plane down if it hits it at 160 knots.
KRviator
It was done knowing that I can hear an aircraft approaching long before it gets near me, and I can get it down real quick. I am also a GA pilot, and not a smeg idiot. Smeg off.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
About the Phantom - are you flying this by line of sight view from where you hold the controller, or are you flying with a live video feed and point-of-view "glasses"? How close would you be prepared to fly near a bridge being filmed if it was a calm day? - I ask as some close detail images may be interesting. How does the Phantom handle a sudden stop of the props if say you bumped against an obstruction? I have a cheapie 007 Nighthawk (around $50) - very much a toy, (even has a camera!) but I figured that I may as well learn on something where if I lose it, I am not badly out of pocket. Then, if finances permit, upgrade to something like yours in the future.
3l diesel
A very large number of owners fly with FPV goggles, I won't do that as I strictly follow the rule that you should be able to see the aircraft with your naked eyes at all times. Because my main target are bridges, I am rarely far away from the point of departure.

I could fly fairly close to the bridge, even with a moderate wind, as the Phantom is very good at keeping station where you put it, but it does not take to striking things with the props, it would most likely bring it down. You can get prop guards, but they are a pain the neck, as they show up in shots and are suspected of being implicated in crashes doe to getting the aircraft into a Vortex Ring state, which is where the aircraft descends into its own dirty air and won't fly anymore.

Like anything that flies, you have to discipline yourself to fly safely every time, it is very easy to get complacent and think you have the game skun, only to have it bite you. Practising with a lower cost drone is good, but every type handles differently.

Having said that, the Phantom is quite forgiving and probably the easiest aircraft to fly.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I am also a GA pilot, and not a smeg idiot. Smeg off.
TheBlacksmith

Possibly not the best response to make to a post by a moderator...
  David Peters Dr Beeching

Location: "With Hey Boy".
A good read of the CASA regulations would be a good idea on operating a drone or other RPA. It could save you money and a court case!

Check out this official site for info on flying them!
https://www.casa.gov.au/operations/standard-page/remotely-piloted-aircraft-rpa
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
A very large number of owners fly with FPV goggles, I won't do that as I strictly follow the rule that you should be able to see the aircraft with your naked eyes at all times. Because my main target are bridges, I am rarely far away from the point of departure.

I could fly fairly close to the bridge, even with a moderate wind, as the Phantom is very good at keeping station where you put it, but it does not take to striking things with the props, it would most likely bring it down. You can get prop guards, but they are a pain the neck, as they show up in shots and are suspected of being implicated in crashes doe to getting the aircraft into a Vortex Ring state, which is where the aircraft descends into its own dirty air and won't fly anymore.

Like anything that flies, you have to discipline yourself to fly safely every time, it is very easy to get complacent and think you have the game skun, only to have it bite you. Practising with a lower cost drone is good, but every type handles differently.

Having said that, the Phantom is quite forgiving and probably the easiest aircraft to fly.
TheBlacksmith
I tend to agree.

I suppose the question is how close do you really need to get to get that good shot? For my money I would be flying a $1300 helicopter so close as to feel I would need blade guards and risk loosing my new found love.

Unlike the cheap drones (which I also own) the Phantom and Inspire provide a very stable self flying/holding platform with high end 4k camera's so you can take photos from a safe distance and zoom in on your PC.

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