Rod, I think you need to take a step back and also make clear your associations with Geoff. You were the mouthpiece for some of the early info, here is some of your words from April 2014:
Blah Blah... Not even close. Eureka have had ..what? 12 years to practice their business tactics. Shrike are learning it all with one model. Imagine for yourself if you would have the guts to invest many several thousands of dollars in a venture to produce a product in another Country that speaks a different language, has absolutely foreign (to us) moral values, and have the audacity to thjink you will get it right? I don' think one in 20,000 of us could do what Geoff has done. The model is fully paid for, the work is pretty damn good, and the holdup is all to do with the Chinese.
http://www.shrike-models.com/ updated today, C30T might arrive before years end.
Beginning to sound like a 'Eureka Moment'...
I guess I think you would have to be a dill to take on what Geoff has, and expect it to work without some hick ups. Rather than put Shrike down, I say that they have done pretty well, and only one Company out there ,possibly, has started off on a small budget, and come this far along. It seems to me that by March everything will be history, the C30T will be receiving great reviews and Shrike will be much better able to put the C30T behind them and concentrate all their efforts on the RX and the VR engine. I used to be a tradition to give people a fair go. That is what old Australians believe in, anyway
Go for it Shrike, your doing a great job, considering everything else.
"The 30T is injection molded with die cast chassis !! Its almost here and release is hoped sooner rather than later, I believe.
Of course the project manager (who is handling several other models, and his success is well known in the trade) is expecting the engineering sample to pass, be approved and go to the next stage quickly. I watched Geoff Hope circulate amongst the principals of the Chinese importing Companies at Bundoora,, and I saw respect and maybe a worrying look as they wondered how far our modelling dollars will stretch. which can be substituted as an add on to mimic prototype operations. Geoff says why do something twice, when you can negotiate in a friendly way with the opposition..how cute is that? Could we even work together like that? I hope so
. I think the "new kids " are showing the old ones up, and getting things done under 12 months"
"It's almost here" - I don't think so
"I heard him negotiate the purchase of tenders from Eureka" - subsequently shown to be wrong, Eureka denied this
"Did I hear August? But I know they are confident they will have them at Liverpool" - Yes, that's Liverpool 2014!
I've got two C30T's on order, looking forward to them like everyone else. I wish Geoff all the best in his endeavour, but like others it's no use saying the Chinese are painting and packing the locos and then two months later that they are working to improve the pulling ability. (My 'Eureka Moment' was tongue-in-cheek, as the 40 Class were in final assembly and packaging years ago...)
Like I said, Geoff was a novice and learned the game the hard way, by investing his hard earned and walking the long mile. That is something that almost every one of us will never ever know, because we don't have the money, or the guts , or the expertise to give it a go.
Money and guts to start this project was something Geoff did have. Just about enough of each. Expertise was a learned thing, the hard way.
As far as my friendship goes, I knew his Father from Diamond Valley Railway, which as members with about 60 others we built in the 80's. Geoff was just a little fella, a bit of a nuisance as were most of the very young members kids in those days. I met him again in Wodonga where he was a Big Wheel fireman running trains to Spencer Street and Dynon. Saw him about, might have a shared a beer on occasion, as I went on to qualify as a Driver and Geoff moved on to Junee after transferring to NSW Railways. I don't remember much about Geoff for the next many years until we met at a model railway meet, where I found out he had a various stages had received promotion and risen through the grades in both Union and the Railways.
We talked about making models. I knew my limitations but Geoff went ahead.
I know little more than you do, but I do get regular updates from Geoff and admit to being infected with his enthusiasm.
After the Hobson's Bay Exhibition which I staffed in 2014 I did make some comments which I believed to be true. I had been given information and told not to repeat, which I didn't (to do with models to come from On Track and one other, which by the way have not arrived either, but soon will) The Eureka moment was indeed factual! I heard it! No matter what Ron says. It may not have gone ahead because another avenue has since opened up. I believe a deal has been struck to exchange tenders with another manufacturer using the same factory. Not sure if that has been announced officially yet?
I am not denying, or have I ever, my association with Geoff and a couple of his backers. I have not invested any monies apart from those required to secure product, nor am I gaining any financial advantage.
I am however a believer in the fact that Geoff can do this. He sought out expertise when he first got into trouble dealing with the Chinese, and appointed a qualified Manager who guided Geoff along a better path.
This year at Liverpool I spent about an hour with Geoff and his son and found a very nice model, set up much better than the first factory samples with weight and it appeared to be the bees knees.
I know Geoff to be an honest man. He has suffered much and after losing his wife suffering debilitating illness and overcoming it all, raising a son alone, and then taking on a new import model business in retirement, I believe he deserves supporting, not knocking.
All my posts in support were believed by me, to be true and what Geoff honestly believed was going to happen. I am doing my best to support him. I know that their is only one thing that can defeat him. That is his health. His enthusiasm is carrying him for now. He needs that model here on sale. Not because he needs the money, but because he promised me and his supporters that he would get the job done. He wears his heart on his sleeve. He wants this model landed more than any one individual that may read this post, believe me he will damage his health to get it here, and that may be what I fear the most.
Geoff is very much being run down by this enterprise. Reports of his personal appearance in Adelaide and Epping this year, showed some form of Crisis which I believe (don't know) may be health related. This year at Liverpool, I had little chance to speak with him, as I was talking with young son most of the time, when examining the new models. When I did break into a conversation with Geoff, I had two or three words quickly as I had people waiting for me as we were due to depart back home.
Unfortunately my conversation was not as supportive as I later wished. In fact I told him that if his latest video was the best he could publish, it was better not published. But I did note that he looked better than last time, although he has thinned down perhaps too quickly.
Yes I am supporting Geoff because I believe he can do it, indeed he already has done it. The money has been paid, the factory have made the alterations and only one thing is left to do! The product needs assembly and the container needs packing and shipping. Everything else is beyond Geoff's control. Help him not hinder him, and let the Chinese be Chinese?
Thank you, Paul, for going to all that trouble researching Railpage. I am extremely happy that I am still getting under your skin. I don't like you and I know how you feel
Now do you want to tell people why YOU are so negative? Or do you just naturally attack me every chance you get and collateral damage be buggered
Are you actually associated with Auscision to whom you consistently point out where the sun shines out of its nether regions? (On a personal note I think Auscision is pretty good too even if they get it wrong and act the fools sometime)
Lots of love