Hopefully any elevated railway will have sound attenuating features. I know it has been there since the late Permian era, but the elevated railway just out of Southern Cross going to Flinders street seems to have been made with a noise amplifier designed in. That area seems to make an awful racket when trains operate!
Sky rail for Pakenham Cranbourne line outlined
The Government has made no hints what so ever about extra tracks on the Dandenong line !
The current project under development Is all about helping out motorists, and jaming more trains services on the tracks.
Express train paths will vanish !
Waking up this morning I can't help thinking the Andrews government in terms of transport, is lurching from one crisis to the next. It is not necessarily what ALP governments do as much as how they do it and how they don;t do it properly. A transport upgrade like the one released this past week should be welcomed by the community but again the way in which the government has gone about it and how they have not "as reported" engaged with the community is the issue.
What should have been a well received set of projects I am sure Andrews will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They have the vline crisis, they have a good wrap on level crossing works and they have the vline fiasco and an yet to be disclosed Metro trains maintenance issue, now the sky rail issue.
You will see poor delivery and execution on the Mildura SG works is my prediction.
Can not see the absence of level crossings having any Impact on the performance of stop all stations trains, coming In and out of stations.
Without level crossings to negotiate the trains could enter and leave the stations faster giving more room in the timetable for Vline express services.
Spot on Nightfire.
Without level crossings to negotiate the trains could enter and leave the stations faster giving more room in the timetable for Vline express services. Can not see the absence of level crossings having any Impact on the performance of stop all stations trains, coming In and out of stations.
Without express tracks, express trains traveling on the stop all stations tracks are going to have their average traveling speed governed by the average speed of the stop all stations trains.
There's no way around this without putting gapping big holes In the stop all stations trains timetable.
Strategically the time to build allowances for viaducts to carry four tracks is now.Apparently no provision will be made for any extra tracks as per Rossco's post - completely ridiculous. They're spending a few billion on widening the Monash (yet again) so there will now be four lanes each way from Berwick to Gardiner but they can't manage to expand the adjacent railway line... not even with one extra track so V/line and express trains can overtake? They're condemning users at the extremities of the lines and Gippsland V/line users to a ridiculous 30 or 40km/h crawl through the suburbs for decades to come.
In light of Rossco Y's report above I can see why Dave will be laughing for the next 50 years.I agree.Funniest post I have read all year! You realise we are talking about Victoria, right?
now is the time for getting the long term planning basics right.
Just remember these grade separations are road traffic easing related projects.They said some years ago that there was no way they could do Rowville without four tracks to Clayton first and yet still no action - they can't throw enough money at the Monash but the train service is going to get slower and slower without expansion of the physical infrastructure. Melbourne is physically vast but crossing the suburbs without a car is slower than ever... maybe it's on purpose, who knows.
(For political purposes)
Melbourne and Sydney longer term will need something like the Paris Regional Express Railway system - express lines that overlay the existing network to provide fast services from one side of the city to the other. Melbourne's urban footprint is well over 100km from Pakenham to Melton - I recall Brumby telling everyone what a wonderful place Melbourne will be with 7 million people (really?) but there's simply been no anticipation of the huge congestion problems those extra residents will bring.
Longer term planning for Melbourne should probably involve something like express train hubs at Frankston, Dandenong and Ringwood connecting though the city to Tullamarine, Sunbury or Werribee on the other side. Unfortunately we simply don't think far enough ahead with our urban planning in Australia to even contemplate those kind of big ticket items.
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