R766 gauge conversion

 
Topic moved from Locomotives and Rolling Stock by dthead on 16 Jun 2016 15:15
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
As I've said time and time again, if money is the issue then bloody ask for it. Nobody will think any less of you, and I'm sure that people will be willing to donate a few thousand dollars towards getting it going.
It's beginning to look as though that was a very accurate perception. It would nice to think that someone could mount a "Flying Scotsman-style" rescue mission. I wonder if Boyd Munro would like his own engine.
Valvegear
It would seem that the time has come for some facts to be released into the enthusiasts public arena on this loco,
The first question would be who is the actual owner of this loco,
The second is where is the loco currently stored and does it need to be moved to a more accessible location to enable the restoration works to be completed.
The third question would be is there a need for more funding to complete the conversion and if so how much.
Depending on the answers to these first three questions come others such as is there a need to set up a trust fund and a trust to administer that fund for the completion of the conversion and the restoration of this loco to operation for enthusiasts.
While being amongst the first to admit that this is not England where they have raised funds for restoration works and indeed for new loco construction there are surely enough enthusiasts who would dip into their pockets and donate to a trust fund to see 766 back in operation, a double header with 766 and a 38 should satisfy all the steam enthusiasts from Brisbane to Perth.

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a double header with 766 and a 38 should satisfy all the steam enthusiasts from Brisbane to Perth.
Mufreight

Or even better, back to Vic, back to BG, quadruple header R class.


Flying Scotsman was owned by three separate individuals, all of whom it sent to bankruptcy. I doubt that there would be any chance of it being picked up and restored by a museum over here.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Would 3801 be interested in it?  Its been looking for a steam loco since it lost the use of 3801.

Assuming it is for sale of course...
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
Would 3801 be interested in it?  Its been looking for a steam loco since it lost the use of 3801.

Assuming it is for sale of course...
james.au
one would think that the present owner/owners would prefer to see it pass into the hands of a trust rather than go to sims or someone else for scrap.
Should it go to a trust that trust could buy the loco from the current owner/owners at a price greater than the scrap value with those people who have put so much effort into the locos conversion taking as active a part in the trust as any other trust members, a far better result than the scrap bin alternative.
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
Would 3801 be interested in it?  Its been looking for a steam loco since it lost the use of 3801.

Assuming it is for sale of course...
one would think that the present owner/owners would prefer to see it pass into the hands of a trust rather than go to sims or someone else for scrap.
Should it go to a trust that trust could buy the loco from the current owner/owners at a price greater than the scrap value with those people who have put so much effort into the locos conversion taking as active a part in the trust as any other trust members, a far better result than the scrap bin alternative.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
A video on ABC Newcastle's facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/1233newcastle/) from September 6th suggests R766 and everything else at Rothbury is now owned by a property developer.  I didn't know rolling stock would transfer to a new landowner when the land changed hands, and it must be why no progress has been made.  A very concerning situation indeed as we could loose 766 and everything else that's there, I wouldn't trust the developer one bit.
TheFish
After watching that I was not much the wiser - both parties seemed incapable of providing an accurate summary of the Rothbury site. It would appear access to the site is restricted so it is unlikely any work is currently being done on R766.  

If the Stapo brothers own it, then surely it would be useful back up for the GEs on the Crawford's train?
  Mufreight Train Controller

Location: North Ipswich
A video on ABC Newcastle's facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/1233newcastle/) from September 6th suggests R766 and everything else at Rothbury is now owned by a property developer.  I didn't know rolling stock would transfer to a new landowner when the land changed hands, and it must be why no progress has been made.  A very concerning situation indeed as we could loose 766 and everything else that's there, I wouldn't trust the developer one bit.
After watching that I was not much the wiser - both parties seemed incapable of providing an accurate summary of the Rothbury site. It would appear access to the site is restricted so it is unlikely any work is currently being done on R766.  

If the Stapo brothers own it, then surely it would be useful back up for the GEs on the Crawford's train?
bingley hall
Ok who now owns 766 and the collection at Rothsbry as the first question and as a second question is there an alternative site where the loco and the collection can be moved to and is anyone prepared to put the effort into creating a preservation trust to fund the obviously needed retention and preservation of this collection and negotiate the possession of it.
Individuals interested can PM me and we can see how much interest there is and possibly get something up and running
  dthead Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I thought R766  was owened by a few paertners, Steamrail a minor one, and that the  "organisation" who are converting it
were doing it on a contract for their eventual use.  So all this talk of the loco's being sold, aquired etc is puzzling.

Regards,
David Head
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
I think by the sounds of it LWP is the owner.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
This clown has been collecting train carriages for decades.Other train enthusiast organizations have tried to work with him but he doesn't want to share his " toys" with other people and so when he has to move his collection, he complains about no one wanting to help him and the landlord has wanted him to do something about it
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This may also provide some clues.

Perhaps a reason why nothing has been heard about R766 has been that the coordination of its restoration has been a chaotic process.  There was very little work being done by the look of that video, and it didnt look all that state of the art of a workshop either.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
I think by the sounds of it LWP is the owner.
james.au
That was certainly the impression given.........but I would imagine a solid legal challenge would probably prove otherwise.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
I don't know. Based on what the LWP rep said, id have more confidence based on his version instead of Chris Richards.  Indeed, the interview indicated that things had happened in the past and that he was relying on LWP 'doing the right thing' (which is unspecified) about the rolling stock.  Indicating that he knows that LWP are the owners.  Unless there were special clauses in the sale conditions, I don't know what legal avenues would exist.
  ssaunders Train Controller

Owened by the original syndicate, leased to Chris Richards, now looking like LVR wish to take on accrediation.

ss
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Owened by the original syndicate, leased to Chris Richards, now looking like LVR wish to take on accrediation.

ss
ssaunders

Source?

Who were the original syndicate?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Owened by the original syndicate, leased to Chris Richards, now looking like LVR wish to take on accrediation.

ss

Source?

Who were the original syndicate?
james.au
A quick search on the Consumer Affairs website of Incorporated organisations (this is a public record):
https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/clubs-and-not-for-profits/incorporated-associations/search-for-an-incorporated-association?id=76a7fa13-df26-46a4-81d5-a4437894d992

Locomotive R766 Inc.
- Registered in 1989
- 12 members
- Last financial statement in 2012.

For $28 more details can be extracted.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Owened by the original syndicate, leased to Chris Richards, now looking like LVR wish to take on accrediation.

ss

Source?

Who were the original syndicate?
A quick search on the Consumer Affairs website of Incorporated organisations (this is a public record):
https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/clubs-and-not-for-profits/incorporated-associations/search-for-an-incorporated-association?id=76a7fa13-df26-46a4-81d5-a4437894d992

Locomotive R766 Inc.
- Registered in 1989
- 12 members
- Last financial statement in 2012.

For $28 more details can be extracted.
Carnot
No financial statements since 2012, this incorporated body is now defunct.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Although mentioned elsewhere on RP, R766 had a close encounter with a bushfire yesterday.  Fortunately she escaped unscathed.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
That's lucky.  Thanks for the update!!!
  Highrailer Assistant Commissioner

Location: Somewhere out on the track......anywhere around the country
Look at the bright side........At least its the closest its been to having a fire for a long time !

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