Sunshine SG platform

 
  beanzs27 Assistant Commissioner

i reading Billy Lewis book "Up the Straight: The Sunshine-Bacchus Marsh-Ballarat Corridor 1980 to 1995" on page 95:  December 1984: Having deposited Sydney-bound passengers at Sunshine the Overand is is on its way to Soencer Street. In the distance the Sydney-bound Intercapital Daylight express stopping at the Subshine standard-gauge platform for South Australians to change trains.

I had no idea there was ever a standard gauge platform at Sunshine. I tried searching online but  didn't find much information other than it open when the SG line was put though in 1962. Anyone able to provide some information on the history of the SG platform at Sunshine?
When did it close?
and when was it demolished?
Thanks

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  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
It was demolished sometime in 2013/14 during the construction of the RRL and the rebuilding of Sunshine.

It went out of service many years before that.
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

The normal use for the platform was for passengers changing from Up Overland to Down Inter-Capital Daylight. Not uncommon for late running to complicate things back in those days.

One memorable use was when 4472 had newly arrived; a special day-return trip was run to Albury and due to lack of paths into Spencer Street, we boarded at Sunshine on the Down. We were able to run all the way in on the Up trip, although some still alighted there. The only time I ever used that platform; none of us bothered to take the photo, which I guess proves that you really should record everything.

From memory, it was constructed in time for the 1962 opening of the sg. Dunno when it fell into disuse, maybe when they replaced the ICD with XPT?

(4472 being the steam version; imaging the hardships they would face trying to run it these days? Still, maybe we could impose "grandfather rights"!)
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
The normal use for the platform was for passengers changing from Up Overland to Down Inter-Capital Daylight. Not uncommon for late running to complicate things back in those days.

One memorable use was when 4472 had newly arrived; a special day-return trip was run to Albury and due to lack of paths into Spencer Street, we boarded at Sunshine on the Down. We were able to run all the way in on the Up trip, although some still alighted there. The only time I ever used that platform; none of us bothered to take the photo, which I guess proves that you really should record everything.

From memory, it was constructed in time for the 1962 opening of the sg. Dunno when it fell into disuse, maybe when they replaced the ICD with XPT?

(4472 being the steam version; imaging the hardships they would face trying to run it these days? Still, maybe we could impose "grandfather rights"!)
hbedriver
I thought that Sunshine SG was quite a while after the 1962 SG passenger services commencing but open to confirmation or correction.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Given Albury is now on SG and Shepparton will be in the next 10 years the design of leaving an additonal platform for SG out of the Sunshine design seems a real omission.  The opportunity to allow changing between Ballarat/Bendigo and NE SG services at Sunshine has been missed as travelers will not need to come right into Melbourne to do that.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Given Albury is now on SG and Shepparton will be in the next 10 years the design of leaving an additonal platform for SG out of the Sunshine design seems a real omission.  The opportunity to allow changing between Ballarat/Bendigo and NE SG services at Sunshine has been missed as travelers will not need to come right into Melbourne to do that.
bevans

It's unnecessary to come into Melbourne from Sunshine as all Ballarat, Bendigo and Geelong trains stop at Footscray, a mere 6 mins running time these days from Sunshine.

Mike.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia

It's unnecessary to come into Melbourne from Sunshine as all Ballarat, Bendigo and Geelong trains stop at Footscray, a mere 6 mins running time these days from Sunshine.

Mike.
The Vinelander

This is true but no SG access for passenger services at Footscray.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Would it have fallen into disuse when the SG to Adelaide was opened and the Overland became an SG train?
The SG Overland does not pass through Sunshine as the former BG Overland would have.

I remember my father saying he would change at Sunshine when he would visit his sister in Corowa and travel by train (that was in the 50's & 60's )
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
I think you may be correct if you consider the need to change trains at sunshine between the overland and the XPT.

It seems odd that such a large interchange like sunshine does not have SG access. Was it considered for the rebuild ?
  historian Deputy Commissioner

Chris Banger's book 'The Daylight' has chapter and verse.

The platform was brought into use on Monday, 5 August 1963. Prior to this, passengers from Adelaide on the Overland arrived at Melbourne after the Daylight had left. They were consequently required to waste a day in Melbourne. As from this date, the two trains were retimed slightly to allow a direct connection at Sunshine. In the reverse direction, another slight retiming allowed a connection at Spencer St. The platform was originally only 4 cars long, but the popularity of the connection meant that it quickly had to be doubled in length in January 1964.

Regular use of the platform ceased with the last run of the Daylight on 31 August 1991. The last use of the platform appears to have been on 19 May 2000 when the southbound daylight XPT was terminated at Sunshine due to a derailment at South Dynon. This formed the evening XPT from the same platform. The platform had been removed by mid June 2004.
  beanzs27 Assistant Commissioner

Chris Banger's book 'The Daylight' has chapter and verse.

The platform was brought into use on Monday, 5 August 1963. Prior to this, passengers from Adelaide on the Overland arrived at Melbourne after the Daylight had left. They were consequently required to waste a day in Melbourne. As from this date, the two trains were retimed slightly to allow a direct connection at Sunshine. In the reverse direction, another slight retiming allowed a connection at Spencer St. The platform was originally only 4 cars long, but the popularity of the connection meant that it quickly had to be doubled in length in January 1964.

Regular use of the platform ceased with the last run of the Daylight on 31 August 1991. The last use of the platform appears to have been on 19 May 2000 when the southbound daylight XPT was terminated at Sunshine due to a derailment at South Dynon. This formed the evening XPT from the same platform. The platform had been removed by mid June 2004.
"historian"


Thank you for the information, makes perfect sense

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