More trouble on the Albury line

 
  woodford Chief Commissioner

The only reason I can think of that V/Line's purely use the old BG platform - platform 2 - is that during the gaps between services the train is out of the way of main line traffic.

I was also surprised to learn of how great the platform-train gap was woodford! I knew it was a long stretch up (even so that the conductors regularly mention it upon arrival) but would never have guessed it was upwards of 30 cm.
Contrillion

I think you will find the back platform track belongs to Victoria not NSW, which is why they use it. It was relaid using second hand BG sleepers and something 110lb rail, ie all second hand Victorian material so it did not cost them much.

woodford

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  Contrillion Junior Train Controller

Location: Geelong, Victoria
Thanks woodford, I had thought the back platform would still be part of the ARTC network.
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Thanks woodford, I had thought the back platform would still be part of the ARTC network.
Contrillion
The ARTC drawing ARTCS3090006 NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR Network Diagram 1 shows the only ARTC leased track in Albury is the platform road, the through road and the loop.

The loop on the Oaklands line in Benalla also appears to be Victorian track. I know a Victorian track team actually put it in on there own bat. All the material being second hand Victorian items so this loop only cost them 5 days work for 4 people and an ecavator.

woodford
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Thanks woodford, I had thought the back platform would still be part of the ARTC network.
The ARTC drawing ARTCS3090006 NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR Network Diagram 1 shows the only ARTC leased track in Albury is the platform road, the through road and the loop.

The loop on the Oaklands line in Benalla also appears to be Victorian track. I know a Victorian track team actually put it in on there own bat. All the material being second hand Victorian items so this loop only cost them 5 days work for 4 people and an ecavator.

woodford
woodford
It actually calls the dock platforms "Multi User Sidings".  What does that really mean I wonder?  There are other similar ones shown at al major places (incl Junee, Coota, Mittagong, Moss Vale etc.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Thanks woodford, I had thought the back platform would still be part of the ARTC network.
The ARTC drawing ARTCS3090006 NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR Network Diagram 1 shows the only ARTC leased track in Albury is the platform road, the through road and the loop.

The loop on the Oaklands line in Benalla also appears to be Victorian track. I know a Victorian track team actually put it in on there own bat. All the material being second hand Victorian items so this loop only cost them 5 days work for 4 people and an ecavator.

woodford
It actually calls the dock platforms "Multi User Sidings".  What does that really mean I wonder?  There are other similar ones shown at al major places (incl Junee, Coota, Mittagong, Moss Vale etc.
james.au
Maybe multi-user sidings are similar to team tracks in the USA where any one could access these sidings????
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Yeah I agree, I think they are open access, but it doesn't tell me anything about who owns them.
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Yeah I agree, I think they are open access, but it doesn't tell me anything about who owns them.
james.au
Notice the drawing has an owner or specfic use for most other sidings, there would be a distinct possibity that "Multi user sidngs" means something like either "owner outside NSW" or "not sure"

woodford
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Notice the drawing has an owner or specfic use for most other sidings, there would be a distinct possibity that "Multi user sidngs" means something like either "owner outside NSW" or "not sure"

woodford
woodford
Agreed.  Though in my line of work ive never really trusted assumptions!!
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Notice the drawing has an owner or specfic use for most other sidings, there would be a distinct possibity that "Multi user sidngs" means something like either "owner outside NSW" or "not sure"

woodford
Agreed.  Though in my line of work ive never really trusted assumptions!!
james.au
Assumptions are the death of accurate reporting, remember your talkiing to woodford here. In this case though there is some evidence pointing to the assumption. One has to weigh up the evidence and see if the assumption is half way reasonable.

Points in favor............

All other designations on the chart make sense except for "multi user sidings".

The chart clearly shows what ARTC is leasing.

It appears second hand Victorian material was used to build the dock track.

The BG to Albury was a Victorian line into NSW.

The NE regauge project definitely demonstrated there was a clear communication gap between ARTC and Victoria.


It still though is an assumption and therefore the info must be treated with some caution.

woodford
  woodford Chief Commissioner

A note on woodford's reporting,

I have always taken great pains to ensure accuracy of what I write, even so there is occasional some info that I am fairly sure is correct  but there is little first hand hard evidence. In a report using such information one will see I ALWAYS use words like probable (I consider it an excellent chance it is correct) and possible (there is a good chance the report is correct).

In all cases if have first hand evidence I will say so, although to protect some sources I will not always identify them.

If I write ANY opinions I will ALWAYS say so, one will see phrases like "flying a kite", "another woodford fairytale" or simply " a woodford opinion, you have been warned".

woodford
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
A valid arguement woodford.  I guess in the absence of anything else (or new info) we can run with this assumption.
  woodford Chief Commissioner

A valid arguement woodford.  I guess in the absence of anything else (or new info) we can run with this assumption.
james.au
Sometimes in order to get accurate information one has to publish an incorrect report. This is a widely used tecnique, ABC local Melboune's Jon Fane is a master of this. I have done it occasionally on Railpage, it works very well.

woodford
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Similar to the seek forgiveness not permission model I guess?
  BigTrain2015 Junior Train Controller

Locomotive N363 failed at Seymour on 10th December with V/Line despatching N473 to rescue the train.  

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/31155661040

Albury line still suffering failures.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Locomotive N363 failed at Seymour on 10th December with V/Line despatching N473 to rescue the train.  

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/31155661040

Albury line still suffering failures.
BigTrain2015
As would 90% of rail lines around the world.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Interestingly N464 is currently en route to Albury as TEST1

https://www.railpage.com.au/radar?mode=train&id=TEST1
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Interestingly N464 is currently en route to Albury as TEST1

https://www.railpage.com.au/radar?mode=train&id=TEST1
"bevans"


Pardon me for my ignorance but what is a TEST1, the page pointed to makes no sense although there appears to be some kind of image at the top thats not loading at this location.

woodford
  packa Junior Train Controller

This afternoons Vline into Albury had a horn issue staying on.  Not sure how long it was stuck on.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMKRxgOC0WU
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Issues on the North east last night.  ST21 XPT to Melbourne was held near Jacana due to track issues.  8605 Albury V/Line pass was held at Tottenham for a while and the Down 1MW2 Steel/Intermodal was held at Tottenham also with the train still not to clear the Bunbury area. This went on for over 1 hour.

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