Sth Australia: Suburban level crossing removals

 
Topic moved from South Australia by dthead on 24 Mar 2017 16:02
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Of the remaining 65, only 23 are on what you'd call 'Main Arterial" roads, the rest (42)on suburban minor streets
Pressman
The numbers get even smaller if you then select only the crossings where both the road and railway are busy.

Take the level crossing on the Belair/ARTC line at Cross Road, which has one but not the other. It is true to say it's a busy road, but with the freight line only having a few trains a day (and freight trains now cruising through rather than braking to stop at the signal protecting Goodwood Junction) and the Belair line having only a couple of trains per hour it is not a busy railway. The delay due to waiting at the level crossing for a passenger train is usually only just enough to make for a slightly later arrival on the end of the queue for the next set of traffic lights.

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  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
I have not got most of those responses before.

1. It's not quite that simple. Do you mean train noises?

2. Those electronic bells were only introduced quite recently compared to when boom barriers were first installed.

3. I'm not sure what you mean, but some swing gated level crossings were worked in this way and were they " a needless obstruction to local movement"? There are level crossings in the U.K that are still worked like that, most of them user worked. You say that the level crossing actually works as a deterrent against rat running but tell me that having barriers closed by default would be a needless obstruction.

4. First of all, those audible warnings would be shorter and less of an issue. Secondly, they are only for pedestrians. Thirdly, swing gate level crossings did without audible warnings at all. I believe that interlocked gates operated from signal boxes (but not handgates, which weren't interlocked) were actually safer than the booms that replaced them.

5. If the barriers were closed by default, with separate user worked gates for pedestrians, then no, the audible warning would not sound every time the barriers closes..
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Myrtone,

Until you live on a main road or near a railway line you just don't realise just how quickly you become used of the noise level.
I have in the past and within a day or two I was no longer bothered by the noise, I got used of it and my ears just blocked it out.

And as JAP has said the newer electronic bells are directional and not as loud as you think

The ridged wooden gated level crossings you mention are a thing of the past her in SA, in fact pre 1950's technology and rather expensive as the railway operator needs to employ a minimum of three people as gate keepers (that's 3 x 8 Hour shifts per day)
Very expensive ancient technology that is so wasteful!
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
I have heard of complaints by people who do live near level crossings, not just anywhere near a railway.

I know what he said but I'm just pointing out that they are only recent compared the advent of automatic level crossings, so residents used to have louder warning bells forced upon them.

Those gates I mention are in fact a British type of level crossing protection. Our automatic crossings are based on American practice, and those swing gates I mentioned never seem to have existed in North America. They had automatic crossings in the 1920s, with wigwags.

I remember those swing gate level crossings and there was only one signalman or gatekeeper operating each crossing. They covered the full width of the road, so replacing them by barriers that only cover half the road was, in a way, a step backwards.

If we had fewer level crossings, then the cost of manual operation would be inconsequential.

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