Good evening all.G'day Tom/Hunter3265, although I suspect your real name is different.
I do not know the story between the S and B Class as I do not model Victorian but purely observe new models. The nose is important because it affects the whole look of the model and it seems sales were affected on the Trainorama 48s because of its wrong nose angle by apparently using the wrong data sheets (having seen the Auscision sample theirs has the correct angle and I am waiting for their delivery because I cannot have a model where the face is wrong). But I can say that I have a 42 and 421 and would prefer my 421 but only because the 421 took many years after the 42 to arrive and has the benefit of better research and detail. Auscision can release a model with the amount of detail on its bogies and underframe and finesse on the grilles and roof detailing for $295.00. Yet you will need to fork out the same cost for a 2004 model with nothing more than a new working marker light on the back and 21 pins (which should amount to no additional cost actually). If you know you will release a model that will fall behind the standards set by SDS, Auscision or indeed Austrains (41 class) then that is fine, at least be fair dinkum with pricing. And before you give me another typical argument about how much detail is too much that is simply an excuse for not going to the effort of improving it or at least admitting it won’t be to the current standards. This is setting apart the manufacturers these days and the competition is intense. My 42 runs well just like yours but is well behind an Auscision 421 for detail and running quality, or even the detail accomplished by Trainorama’s own 47 or 32.
The GM-1 model released as AN interested me because I recall GM 1 on tests in NSW. The review here sums up what I have to say on the subject. GM 1 as delivered is very different and I expect the fuel tank valance and fuel tank to be different. Also the windows are not flush with the sides. I hope this is being corrected.
My other concern is the shade of red which is far too red and nothing like the maroon used. I can see someone else making the same comment.
By the way the upgraded motor and gear box is only because they had split gears and no motor after leaving Sanda Kan which ruined their schedule and Eureka’s. Not the manufacturers fault at all – I feel for them for being left to fend for themselves.
Since I posted last to your reply, there is a couple of things that interests me as to your actual interest in the hobby and as a modeler, I realise that everyone has different interests in the hobby, be they in operating a layout, or as a collector, the later aspect can mean many things and collecting as such has many interests, certainly I myself am not much interested in any period of modelling outside of an earlier period than your choice of the Candy period, a period that I still worked on with the NSW railways and later.
The thing though is you mention that in your first sentence you state you do not know about the story between the S and B class but it would provide a degree of interest to you if you cared to look it up, but you then saying that you purely observe new models, which has to be a first in the model railway hobby, as I would think that the vast majority of modellers while they observe models, they do so in order to make choices in regards to purchasing them and to run them, unless of course they are people who are purely collectors only, most of whom purchase an item not so much based on different quality levels and the like but to usually put it behind glass in a display cabinet. I therefore gather that you buy the models that you mention for a similar interest but take some more interest in them, especially the ends.
Its also interesting about what you refer to with the face of the 48cl, and can vouch for the correctness of the Auscision version, meaning you must have some form of access there, one thing though is that at Liverpool last year I took particular notice of the Auscision model in their showcase going round on the turntable, I also pointed out this model to another person I knew was interested and both of us came away with the opinion that the Auscision model as the same as the TOR model. While it was hard to get a real hands on view, I observed the model closely as it came around to try and pick the angled front, I guess and knowing it was a sample, and must have been a pre-production version if it was wrong, as it could not have been anything else, could it?
Lets also consider the 42 and the 421. Both loco's have similarities but also quite a deal of differences as well, not least being the bogies, and dual working cabs, to name just two, and of course the radiator shutters changes the appearances remarkably so, there had to be differences in them, and not just a modern research aspect either.
As for the quality between the models, I did have a reread of the two blog articles, and they were very revealing, with the first one actually pretty complimentary to the TOR model regarding quality aspects compared to the Auscision one in regard to the amount of items that have conflicts with the packing. He also says that while the model is a bit of a creation, much like the TOR maroon high framed 32cl which you had mentioned as well, he did say that he would buy more of them.
The second blog primary issue was the shade of the CR red lighter as against the more correct Austrains CL but was more akin to being of a type of loco that had been "a desert faded red" something that the other blog had also referred to with paint on CR loco's and did not take a lot of time for them to fade. His large colour chip had also been kept in a dark place to protect the originality of it.
Finally, I tend to remember an earlier thread here on RP and I may be wrong on this but I am pretty sure it also had a poster by the the name of Tom, who raised the nose issue with the impending arrival of the TOR models that caused a lot of commentary here on RP at the time, interestingly though while it did seem to affect some sales of the TOR model it has still sold quite well.