Grain Harvest 2016/2017

 
  HardWorkingMan Chief Commissioner

Location: Echuca
Drove past the Elmore silos on the way home tonight.  I saw 3 trucks going into unload and another one was being loaded out of the silos.  I guess with the Echuca line closed at the moment they don't have much choice but to road it out.

While at first glance it looks silly unloading and reloading they use the scales and sample the grain to store it according to grade so the trucks coming in may be a different grade to that going out. Farmers are paid according to the weight and grade of their grain

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  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
I see PN have re-activated X50 and are running it on SG grain workings.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Drove past the Elmore silos on the way home tonight.  I saw 3 trucks going into unload and another one was being loaded out of the silos.  I guess with the Echuca line closed at the moment they don't have much choice but to road it out.

While at first glance it looks silly unloading and reloading they use the scales and sample the grain to store it according to grade so the trucks coming in may be a different grade to that going out. Farmers are paid according to the weight and grade of their grain
HardWorkingMan
Elmore silo siding though does have some rail shine In It (as seen today)

This weekend It looks like Echuca's grain loading spur Is getting the chop with a rebuild of the Pakenham Street level crossing.
  emmastreet Chief Train Controller

Location: Goulburn Valley
PN grain train to Tocumwal yesterday and again today.
  HardWorkingMan Chief Commissioner

Location: Echuca
Drove past the Elmore silos on the way home tonight.  I saw 3 trucks going into unload and another one was being loaded out of the silos.  I guess with the Echuca line closed at the moment they don't have much choice but to road it out.

While at first glance it looks silly unloading and reloading they use the scales and sample the grain to store it according to grade so the trucks coming in may be a different grade to that going out. Farmers are paid according to the weight and grade of their grain
Elmore silo siding though does have some rail shine In It (as seen today)

This weekend It looks like Echuca's grain loading spur Is getting the chop with a rebuild of the Pakenham Street level crossing.
Nightfire

could rubber tyres be shining the rails as that's where the truck that was loading appeared to be (the area appeared quite busy so I didn't stop to look closely)

The Echuca - Bendigo Route is still closed as the baulks are over the line at the Ogilvie Avenue (or some non-locals call it Murray Valley Highway) level crossing  and as the crossing causing the closure was at Goornong I am not sure how a freight train could get to Elmore at the moment.

I also went to look at the Pakenham st crossing today while I was in town to see what was going on but they were even diverting pedestrians away while I was there and I couldn't see much of the track from Dan's carpark or Mann's Carpark. I was meeting someone so didn’t try to look from the other side.

  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Things are looking promising for the farming sector of western Victoria,

From the Wimmera MailTimes,

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4663273/rain-boosts-soil-moisture-for-growers/?cs=224

BigShunter.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Things are looking promising for the farming sector of western Victoria,

From the Wimmera MailTimes,

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4663273/rain-boosts-soil-moisture-for-growers/?cs=224

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Yep, and more rain expected this week.  They're having a real uphill battle to move last year's crop on both SG and BG lines to port, and then they'll be contending with shutdowns for gauge conversion over the next 12 months starting in August.

I've kept a close watch on movements of grain trains on the Bendigo line since 1st January 2017.  Thus far only about 70000 tonnes has managed to go via rail, 95% of that from Piangil or Woorinen and it's split 55/45 between PN and Qube.  Barely a dint...
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
Things are looking promising for the farming sector of western Victoria,

From the Wimmera MailTimes,

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4663273/rain-boosts-soil-moisture-for-growers/?cs=224

BigShunter.
Yep, and more rain expected this week.  They're having a real uphill battle to move last year's crop on both SG and BG lines to port, and then they'll be contending with shutdowns for gauge conversion over the next 12 months starting in August.

I've kept a close watch on movements of grain trains on the Bendigo line since 1st January 2017.  Thus far only about 70000 tonnes has managed to go via rail, 95% of that from Piangil or Woorinen and it's split 55/45 between PN and Qube.  Barely a dint...
Carnot
That's very interesting. Maybe PN focusing on the north west branches before closure?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Things are looking promising for the farming sector of western Victoria,

From the Wimmera MailTimes,

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4663273/rain-boosts-soil-moisture-for-growers/?cs=224

BigShunter.
Yep, and more rain expected this week.  They're having a real uphill battle to move last year's crop on both SG and BG lines to port, and then they'll be contending with shutdowns for gauge conversion over the next 12 months starting in August.

I've kept a close watch on movements of grain trains on the Bendigo line since 1st January 2017.  Thus far only about 70000 tonnes has managed to go via rail, 95% of that from Piangil or Woorinen and it's split 55/45 between PN and Qube.  Barely a dint...
That's very interesting. Maybe PN focusing on the north west branches before closure?
cbinyon

Good theory. makes sense.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Manangatang and Sea Lake lines will be still be operational most of the time between August 2017 and March 2018, so probably not a huge increase in traffic to Piangil and Woorinen.
  cbinyon Chief Train Controller

Location: London, England
Manangatang and Sea Lake lines will be still be operational most of the time between August 2017 and March 2018, so probably not a huge increase in traffic to Piangil and Woorinen.
Carnot
Charlton granie yesterday back to Melbourne. Be good to see increased traffic on those NW branches. I'm sure they've been constant the past 6 months anyway?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Manangatang and Sea Lake lines will be still be operational most of the time between August 2017 and March 2018, so probably not a huge increase in traffic to Piangil and Woorinen.
Charlton granie yesterday back to Melbourne. Be good to see increased traffic on those NW branches. I'm sure they've been constant the past 6 months anyway?
cbinyon
Definitely more rail traffic than last year, in-between industrial disputes and heat restrictions....
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Another week of solid rain across the west of the state, cropping people will be rubbing their hands together.

Some light reading, while having a quick spell from the Avon river bridge and Nth East line feuding.

The link from the Wimmera MailTimes.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4680305/recent-rainfall-a-blessing-for-region-croppers/?cs=4122

Link from BOM showing rainfall in Victoria for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=vc

Link from BOM showing NSW rainfall for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=ns

There will be plenty of smiling farmers and communities in the south eastern corner of Australia.  Laughing

BigShunter.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Drove past the Elmore silos on the way home tonight.  I saw 3 trucks going into unload and another one was being loaded out of the silos.  I guess with the Echuca line closed at the moment they don't have much choice but to road it out.

While at first glance it looks silly unloading and reloading they use the scales and sample the grain to store it according to grade so the trucks coming in may be a different grade to that going out. Farmers are paid according to the weight and grade of their grain
Elmore silo siding though does have some rail shine In It (as seen today)

This weekend It looks like Echuca's grain loading spur Is getting the chop with a rebuild of the Pakenham Street level crossing.

could rubber tyres be shining the rails as that's where the truck that was loading appeared to be (the area appeared quite busy so I didn't stop to look closely)

The Echuca - Bendigo Route is still closed as the baulks are over the line at the Ogilvie Avenue (or some non-locals call it Murray Valley Highway) level crossing  and as the crossing causing the closure was at Goornong I am not sure how a freight train could get to Elmore at the moment.

I also went to look at the Pakenham st crossing today while I was in town to see what was going on but they were even diverting pedestrians away while I was there and I couldn't see much of the track from Dan's carpark or Mann's Carpark. I was meeting someone so didn’t try to look from the other side.

HardWorkingMan

Anti Rail @Victrack strikes again?
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Another week of solid rain across the west of the state, cropping people will be rubbing their hands together.

Some light reading, while having a quick spell from the Avon river bridge and Nth East line feuding.

The link from the Wimmera MailTimes.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4680305/recent-rainfall-a-blessing-for-region-croppers/?cs=4122

Link from BOM showing rainfall in Victoria for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=vc

Link from BOM showing NSW rainfall for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=ns

There will be plenty of smiling farmers and communities in the south eastern corner of Australia.  Laughing

BigShunter.
BigShunter

I must be going mad, responding to my own post, or perhaps creating a conversation with myself, like a few seem to be doing Confused

But I wonder if the Rocket Scientist' running the state, would be taking heed, that this is pointing towards another massive grain harvest to be shifted to port ! Confused

Get the troops cracking on the gauge conversion, Jacinta.

BigShunter.
  fzr560 Chief Train Controller

Another week of solid rain across the west of the state, cropping people will be rubbing their hands together.

Some light reading, while having a quick spell from the Avon river bridge and Nth East line feuding.

The link from the Wimmera MailTimes.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4680305/recent-rainfall-a-blessing-for-region-croppers/?cs=4122

Link from BOM showing rainfall in Victoria for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=vc

Link from BOM showing NSW rainfall for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=ns

There will be plenty of smiling farmers and communities in the south eastern corner of Australia.  Laughing

BigShunter.

I must be going mad, responding to my own post, or perhaps creating a conversation with myself, like a few seem to be doing Confused

But I wonder if the Rocket Scientist' running the state, would be taking heed, that this is pointing towards another massive grain harvest to be shifted to port ! Confused

Get the troops cracking on the gauge conversion, Jacinta.

BigShunter.
BigShunter
Keep conversing with yourself. It's the only way you are guaranteed a sensible reply Smile
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Go see what I did in the Toowoomba Intermodal Hub thread this arvo.....
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Another week of solid rain across the west of the state, cropping people will be rubbing their hands together.

Some light reading, while having a quick spell from the Avon river bridge and Nth East line feuding.

The link from the Wimmera MailTimes.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4680305/recent-rainfall-a-blessing-for-region-croppers/?cs=4122

Link from BOM showing rainfall in Victoria for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=vc

Link from BOM showing NSW rainfall for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=ns

There will be plenty of smiling farmers and communities in the south eastern corner of Australia.  Laughing

BigShunter.

I must be going mad, responding to my own post, or perhaps creating a conversation with myself, like a few seem to be doing Confused

But I wonder if the Rocket Scientist' running the state, would be taking heed, that this is pointing towards another massive grain harvest to be shifted to port ! Confused

Get the troops cracking on the gauge conversion, Jacinta.

BigShunter.
BigShunter

How would speeding up the gauge conversion assist with the exception that if the grain is not being moved fast enough then more grain wagons might help but you still need to get into the grain receivals at the ports and this infrastructure needs to be fixed also.  There is not a place to store trains at North Geelong on the SG.  We need some of North Geelong yard converted and access from the yard into the grain loop updated if required.

We need the government to understand there is even a bigger task coming however the VFF should already be talking to the government about this and probably are.
  SamTheMan79 Assistant Commissioner

Location: Geelong

There is not a place to store trains at North Geelong on the SG.  We need some of North Geelong yard converted and access from the yard into the grain loop updated if required.
x31

There's Track A,B & C in the North Shore yard. Track C is short but A & B easily hold 40+ wagons as the grains are quite regularly stabled there.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Another week of solid rain across the west of the state, cropping people will be rubbing their hands together.

Some light reading, while having a quick spell from the Avon river bridge and Nth East line feuding.

The link from the Wimmera MailTimes.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4680305/recent-rainfall-a-blessing-for-region-croppers/?cs=4122

Link from BOM showing rainfall in Victoria for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=vc

Link from BOM showing NSW rainfall for the week.

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=ns

There will be plenty of smiling farmers and communities in the south eastern corner of Australia.  Laughing

BigShunter.

I must be going mad, responding to my own post, or perhaps creating a conversation with myself, like a few seem to be doing Confused

But I wonder if the Rocket Scientist' running the state, would be taking heed, that this is pointing towards another massive grain harvest to be shifted to port ! Confused

Get the troops cracking on the gauge conversion, Jacinta.

BigShunter.

How would speeding up the gauge conversion assist with the exception that if the grain is not being moved fast enough then more grain wagons might help but you still need to get into the grain receivals at the ports and this infrastructure needs to be fixed also.  There is not a place to store trains at North Geelong on the SG.  We need some of North Geelong yard converted and access from the yard into the grain loop updated if required.

We need the government to understand there is even a bigger task coming however the VFF should already be talking to the government about this and probably are.
x31

I wasn't meaning to speed up the process, just to keep the program rolling without to much drama. It is the down time, when complete lines will be shut down, that the volume to be shifted will bank up.

Wonder if the various grain companies will look at increasing their bunker numbers and or sizes to allow for an over flow of grain.

And yes, I certainly agree about the ports issue's, there needs to be a decent review of the ports and how they could be improved, particularly Portland, I think it has been extremely under utilized and it's unloading yard makes it difficult as well, needs a balloon loop, but not sure where or how this could be achieved.

Geelong has to contend with a lot of grain that comes out of the Riverina, as well as northern vic, so Portland should be scoring the big majority of the Wimmera/Mallee grain, once everything is standardised, it's also a deeper port than Geelong.

Hmm, getting the government to understand all of this Rolling Eyes Perhaps GrainCorp needs to take the lead and give them some direction, actually Emerald is a newish company over in this part of Oz and they are rattling the cage in the market.

BigShunter.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
The issue with Portland is simple in they have been quite negative towards rail over the past 10 years meaning their developments have not included rail access. As rail usage picks up once again and it is beginning to it is easier for customers to use rail to other ports than Portland.  They have cut their own throats so to speak.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
The issue with Portland is simple in they have been quite negative towards rail over the past 10 years meaning their developments have not included rail access. As rail usage picks up once again and it is beginning to it is easier for customers to use rail to other ports than Portland.  They have cut their own throats so to speak.
x31

I now see what your referring too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland,_Victoria

If you scroll down to rail, it gives you some info about the operations of GrainCorp and I can't cut and paste it, turns into chinese writing.

So if the facility's are there but GrainCorp are diverting most of the grain else where, for what ever the reason, don't suppose you can force them too.

I still think better use can be made of the Port of Portland, deepest port in vic, easy access for grain out of the Wimmera and all doable on rail.

Wonder if it's the rail access that makes it too difficult at Portland ?

BigShunter.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
For 10-20 years or more there has been no decent feed of rail to Portland to worry about.  Its only recently that the Murray Basin project has changed things and so rail will again be considered as an option.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
For 10-20 years or more there has been no decent feed of rail to Portland to worry about.  Its only recently that the Murray Basin project has changed things and so rail will again be considered as an option.
james.au

Freight operator Pacific National indefinitely suspended all rail services to the town of Portland in 2004, impacting local companies including Portland Aluminium, transport company Kalari, and freight broker Anchor Logistics. Portland container traffic was conveyed between Maroona and Portland on grain services twice a week, but Pacific National said that due to the drought there were no trains to attach the loading to. On the route the price differential between rail and road is $12.97 per tonne in rail's favour.[size=1][[/size]
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
It's the next sentence, x31.

BigShunter.

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