Larrimah and the End of the Line

 
  Zodiac Junior Train Controller

Location: The Never Never
Had the day off so I went down and had a look at what is left of Larrimah.

The yard appears to be quite extensive for a narrow gauge operation with about 6 roads evident, a couple of cranes and what looks like the remnants of a moving gantry crane.

I believe from what I've read that the line once went to Birdnum and terminated there.

Is there anything left at Birdnum ? Is it worth a look ?

And my final question, does anyone have a track layout for Larrimah ?, would be good to compare what I saw with a reference drawing.

Thanks

Marc H

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  Zodiac Junior Train Controller

Location: The Never Never
Make that Birdum , not Birdnum.
My bad

Marc H
  benscaro Chief Commissioner

Check The Never Never Line by JH Harvey.  Track plans for all stations are in the back.  

Larrimah was the terminus in later years because it was near the highway so the 'Co-ord' road/rail operation was based there, using the gantry at Larrimah to load/unload containers onto flat wagons.  I doubt the section to Birdum had any freight offering anyway.

I believe the gantry was relocated somewhere else, Alice Springs or maybe Thevenard in SA even?

http://www.territorystories.nt.gov.au/handle/10070/137

Ben
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
My recollection of the crane/s at Larrimah is a bit hazy now but someone may be able to confirm or refute the following.

Back in the days (1960s) there was an overhead travelling crane spanning a roadway and one rail track (?).

Later, I think, one of the several Deer Park gantry cranes went to Larrimah (also Whyalla, Alice Springs and Canberra (?).

An overhead travelling crane has no legs and its rails in the air on poles whilst a gantry crane has legs with its rails in the ground.

As far as I know the Whyalla crane is still there but I don't know what ultimately happened to the others. It's all a long time ago now but someone may be able to elaborate.
  Zodiac Junior Train Controller

Location: The Never Never
I have a bunch of pics from Larrimah, but have no idea how to upload here.
Yes I have opened a photobucket account Smile

Any help is always appreciated

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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I have a bunch of pics from Larrimah, but have no idea how to upload here.
Yes I have opened a photobucket account Smile

Any help is always appreciated

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"Zodiac"


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  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
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6. Press submit and your photo should appear here. Smile
  E1109 Minister for Railways

Location: Bright sunny Darwin


I believe the gantry was relocated somewhere else, Alice Springs or maybe Thevenard in SA even?

Ben
"benscaro"


I think its the one that now is the yard at Alice Springs.
  mdhughes Junior Train Controller

Location: Over the Edge Hill - Lime Street tunnels, Liverpool (work); lineside on the Standedge route (home)
Had the day off so I went down and had a look at what is left of Larrimah.

The yard appears to be quite extensive for a narrow gauge operation with about 6 roads evident, a couple of cranes and what looks like the remnants of a moving gantry crane.

I believe from what I've read that the line once went to Birdnum and terminated there.

Is there anything left at Birdnum ? Is it worth a look ?

And my final question, does anyone have a track layout for Larrimah ?, would be good to compare what I saw with a reference drawing.

Thanks

Marc H
"Zodiac"

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I visited Larrimah 2 years ago when I was over from the UK. I drove down the Stuart Highway from Darwin with the specific aim of finding as many remains of the NAR as I could. I found more than I expected and I was amazed to find rails heading south from Larrimah towards Birdum. I followed them on foot as far as the bridge over the Birdum Creek. The rails continued on the other side but, foolishly, I was not properly equipped to follow them any further. If you have another opportunity to visit, and are better equipped than I was, I would be very interested to hear what remains at Birdum, and perhaps see some pics?

Failing that, I will just have to make another trip myself. Oh, dear, what a bummer!

Cheers.

Martyn

Hi Martyn, as a resident of Larrimah, i have been down to Birdum on our section cars and theres the remnents of the duplicate pub at the site where Birdum Hotel once sat (1930). It was then moved to Larrimah in about 1952 and was renamed the Larrimah Hotel.
The original old water tanks are still at Birdum and a few old pieces of machinery but not much else.
It was pretty impressive for its day

  mdhughes Junior Train Controller

Location: Over the Edge Hill - Lime Street tunnels, Liverpool (work); lineside on the Standedge route (home)
Hi Martyn, as a resident of Larrimah, i have been down to Birdum on our section cars and theres the remnents of the duplicate pub at the site where Birdum Hotel once sat (1930). It was then moved to Larrimah in about 1952 and was renamed the Larrimah Hotel.
The original old water tanks are still at Birdum and a few old pieces of machinery but not much else.
It was pretty impressive for its day

LarrimahCommunityProjects

G'day, LarrimahCommunityProjects,

Many thanks for the update on the NAR remains at Birdum. You have clearly been more successful than I was at getting to Birdum, and I envy you the trip very much.

Unfortunately, the pic that you posted doesn't show up for me (not uncommon these days on Railpage, I find) so perhaps you can try again so that I can have a look. I also have a pic from my trip in 2009 showing two section cars at Larrimah and I will try to post that later, if I can make the system work properly.

Unfortunately, the financial position following the Brexit vote, and the removal of the cheap seats from the Indian Pacific, have not been designed to encourage me to revisit my favourite country at reasonable cost. So it is good to be able to keep up with the news via Railpage until, I hope, the situation improves. But now is a good time for you to visit the UK to look at some remains and ride the rails before prices here start to escalate, if you want.

Many thank again and keep up the good work on the NAR.

Cheers.

Martyn
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I have a bunch of pics from Larrimah, but have no idea how to upload here.
Yes I have opened a photobucket account Smile

Any help is always appreciated

Thanks[/bigimg][/img]


There has to be an easier way to upload photos than the one that applies at the moment.

Yes I know that the computer gunzels will flame me but they will not change my view.

Perhaps some one could provide a keystroke by keystroke set of instructions for a computer idiot like me.
YM-Mundrabilla

Here is what I do now.

Go to https://www.railpage.com.au/gallery?mode=album.list and you will see a list of albums in the older gallery system.  Click My Photos on the right then UPLOAD and you then drag and drop photos to the window provided. You can then click back and forth through the photos selecting the one you want.  Right click on the image and select link to photo which copies the link to the clipboard.

flip back to your post and use the 5th icon from the right the screen icon to inser the image.  Paste the URL into the window and the image is inserted.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line

Unfortunately, the financial position following the Brexit vote, and the removal of the cheap seats from the Indian Pacific, have not been designed to encourage me to revisit my favourite country at reasonable cost. So it is good to be able to keep up with the news via Railpage until, I hope, the situation improves. But now is a good time for you to visit the UK to look at some remains and ride the rails before prices here start to escalate, if you want.
Many thank again and keep up the good work on the NAR.

Cheers.

Martyn
mdhughes

Idea..Friendly tip to all Aussie locals...

I never travel to the UK without a First class British rail pass purchased here in advance.

The savings on the pass are enormous compared to even the cheapest fares obtainable by British locals.

I've often saved over three times the cost of the pass even compared to the cheapest local fares with the once only cost of the pass.

However even a First Class pass doesn't guarantee a seat especially on holiday weekends when I once stood for well over an hour from Birmingham New Street to Bristol Parkway.

Mike.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I have a bunch of pics from Larrimah, but have no idea how to upload here.
Yes I have opened a photobucket account Smile

Any help is always appreciated

Thanks[/bigimg][/img]


There has to be an easier way to upload photos than the one that applies at the moment.

Yes I know that the computer gunzels will flame me but they will not change my view.

Perhaps some one could provide a keystroke by keystroke set of instructions for a computer idiot like me.

Here is what I do now.

Go to https://www.railpage.com.au/gallery?mode=album.list and you will see a list of albums in the older gallery system.  Click My Photos on the right then UPLOAD and you then drag and drop photos to the window provided. You can then click back and forth through the photos selecting the one you want.  Right click on the image and select link to photo which copies the link to the clipboard.

flip back to your post and use the 5th icon from the right the screen icon to inser the image.  Paste the URL into the window and the image is inserted.
bevans
Buggered if I can get it to work. Sad
Is there the mandatory missing step? (There usually is in computer instructions).
  mdhughes Junior Train Controller

Location: Over the Edge Hill - Lime Street tunnels, Liverpool (work); lineside on the Standedge route (home)

Unfortunately, the financial position following the Brexit vote, and the removal of the cheap seats from the Indian Pacific, have not been designed to encourage me to revisit my favourite country at reasonable cost. So it is good to be able to keep up with the news via Railpage until, I hope, the situation improves. But now is a good time for you to visit the UK to look at some remains and ride the rails before prices here start to escalate, if you want.
Many thank again and keep up the good work on the NAR.

Cheers.

Martyn
Idea..Friendly tip to all Aussie locals...

I never travel to the UK without a First class British rail pass purchased here in advance.

The savings on the pass are enormous compared to even the cheapest fares obtainable by British locals.

I've often saved over three times the cost of the pass even compared to the cheapest local fares with the once only cost of the pass.

However even a First Class pass doesn't guarantee a seat especially on holiday weekends when I once stood for well over an hour from Birmingham New Street to Bristol Parkway.

Mike.
The Vinelander

You are dead right with your friendly tip, Mike. The main thing that I was thinking of as being in your favour at the moment is the exchange rate for $Aus v. £UK. The reduction in the value of the £UK is starting to affect prices here due to higher import costs, but it is not too bad so far. If you don't have a rail pass bought in advance, beware of UK rail fare rip-offs. Check online if you can (www.nationalrail.co.uk, or http://www.thetrainline.com, for example). Try advance tickets (but remember that these are only for singles and you will only be able to travel on specific trains), day returns, and splitting long journeys into parts to reduce the overall fare.

To avoid standing for long periods on very crowded trains, DON'T travel at holiday weekends if you can avoid it. Besides very crowded trains, there are often engineering works, causing cancellations and diversions, at holiday weekends because it is reckoned that leisure travellers don't matter as much as business travellers in the week. If things do go wrong and your train is delayed (not uncommon) it can be worth claiming compensation, if you are in a position to do so - there are standard policies for claiming now and you can often just fill in a form online to get some money back.

Still working on posting my pic of the Larrimah section cars.

Cheers.

Martyn
  mdhughes Junior Train Controller

Location: Over the Edge Hill - Lime Street tunnels, Liverpool (work); lineside on the Standedge route (home)
mdhughes

I think I have managed to work out how to insert my 2009 picture of the section cars at Larrimah to Railpage from Flickr. I just followed the instructions and copied and pasted the URL of the picture on Flickr. Here goes.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/7825459@N06/33985204073/in/dateposted-public/
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
This book might be of interest http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/9552486?q&versionId=11083454

The ARHS Bulletin has a series of articles which are available on their backcopy Bulletin DVD series from their NSW online bookshop. Just enter the author's name, Harvey, in this search URL  
http://www.nswrail.net/search/bulletin.php

ARHS (NSW) online bookshop http://www.railwaybookshop.com.au/
  mdhughes Junior Train Controller

Location: Over the Edge Hill - Lime Street tunnels, Liverpool (work); lineside on the Standedge route (home)
This book might be of interest http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/9552486?q&versionId=11083454

The ARHS Bulletin has a series of articles which are available on their backcopy Bulletin DVD series from their NSW online bookshop. Just enter the author's name, Harvey, in this search URL  
http://www.nswrail.net/search/bulletin.php

ARHS (NSW) online bookshop http://www.railwaybookshop.com.au/
petan

Many thanks for that very interesting info, Petan. I thought that Jim Harvey's excellent book "The Never-Never Line" was the only major work about the NAR. I have a copy of that. It took me a long time to find it but, after almost paying to get one sent from Melbourne, I finally located one nearer to home in Amsterdam - it has a sticker showing that it was bought new in Darwin, NT!

I will see if I can find a copy of Stevenson's book to add to my collection.

All this is whetting my appetite for another trip to the Territory to finally get to see the remains at Birdum for myself!

Cheers

Martyn

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