Horsham passenger rail: Wimmera leaders pleased with community support

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 29 Jun 2015 15:46
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

The Wimmera Transport  Study was primarily funded by Wimmera Area Councils plus a contribution from the State Government .

The report proposes all sg operations beyond Ballarat with all passengers changing trains at Ballarat .  All transfers would be same platform at Ballarat . Like Down bg Wendouree sets down Wimmera passengers plat 1 and proceeds onto Wendouree .  Then SG DMU ex Ballarat East docks up to same platform, Wimmera pax board and sg train departs towards Ararat .  Simple clean efficient . No crossing footbridge for anyone , no disability access issues.

The ultimate proposed SG service provided Weekdays 4 return trips to Horsham, and 3 return trips to Hamilton, (giving 5 - 6 trips each way between Ballarat & Ararat); all done with 3 - 4  small Inter City  DMU train sets, very efficiently . The proposed timetable also provided a Weekday midday Horsham - Ararat - Hamilton rail trip and vice versa with passengers changing at Ararat in each direction with minimal waiting times . (As with all sg Wimmera operations there would be two sg platforms at Ararat, the through platform and the back Dock platform . )

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
The journey was far to long 2 - 3 hours in a bus is enough,  the road from Hamilton to Smythesdale is in such a bad state, the driver was all over the place constantly on the other side of the road it was very rough and jerky drive it felt like we could of easily left the road at any corner, bad road bad driver not a good combination
I totally support the idea of a train service from Hamilton and Horsham to Ararat or Ballarat and yes I have no issues changing trains, the bus trip was smeg I was apprehensive before I boarded the bus and that apprehension was justified
These larger towns clearly do need a decent rail service at least once or twice a day every day of the week bus services need to connect to trains make bus journeys shorter
I definitely have empathy for those from Mildura
doyle

As there are up to 3 buses a day from Mt Gambier towards Melbourne...and I've not heard of any bus crashes out that way...perhaps you are over reacting regards your perception of the bus, the road and its driver.

As you said, you were apprehensive before boarding the bus which in my view is illogical and as you are not a regular on long distance buses...you may not have been aware that buses don't ride as smoothly as trains. That bus driver knew every inch of that road...he/she drives it almost every day.

Moreover...many people travel by bus if they don't own a car...how will you undertake this journey next time Question

Yes I travel to Mildura semi-regularly and I'm aware and have written of the comfort provided by the bus compared to a train...but I'd rather travel on the bus than drive.

Mike.
  doyle Junior Train Controller

No Mike the driver was c r a p and it did feel as the bus could of left the road at any corner
I do understand the difference of comfort between train and bus, bus travel is shocking
I will in future be driving to the Mount as I have done for years now
  stooge spark Train Controller

You can't base some of your coach riding experience based on a single bad driver you had, if you had major issues with the driver was doing you could possibly lodge a complaint? But still don't base your experiences based on just one ride, try it again another time and see how it is then.
@Thee Vinelander is the trip to Mildura (and the town itself) good by any chance? I might try that trip one day.

Anyways, I think Horsham should get a rail line, mostly because Stawell would benefit from the extension too.
One thing I'd like to include on these plans are the coach routes,  maybe the Adelaide daylink service could meet up with trains at Horsham?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
@Thee Vinelander is the trip to Mildura (and the town itself) good by any chance? I might try that trip one day.

stooge spark

Mildura is a lovely place...kind of like Swan Hill or Echuca but bigger than those two rural cities by a factor of three....and growing.

Its main street, Deakin Avenue is lined in palm trees and gardens and the riverfront is undergoing a massive transformation at this time. There's quite a cafe culture in Langtree Avenue...near the famous Grand hotel.

It wouldn't be difficult to spend a few days in Mildura or the Sunraysia region...but don't wait till mid-summer.

Mike.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
@Thee Vinelander is the trip to Mildura (and the town itself) good by any chance? I might try that trip one day.

Mildura is a lovely place...kind of like Swan Hill or Echuca but bigger than those two rural cities by a factor of three....and growing.

Its main street, Deakin Avenue is lined in palm trees and gardens and the riverfront is undergoing a massive transformation at this time. There's quite a cafe culture in Langtree Avenue...near the famous Grand hotel.

It wouldn't be difficult to spend a few days in Mildura or the Sunraysia region...but don't wait till mid-summer.

Mike.
The Vinelander
Just as a quick comparison for the tourist
Mildura/Buronga/Wentworth has 54 Hotel/Motel/Tourist Parks
Swan Hill has 16
Echuca/Moama has 58
Horsham has 18
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Some info here from the bring passenger rail services back to western Victoria was launched at Stawell on Tuesday.

Link, from Wimmera MailTimes;

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4785064/new-campaign-pushes-for-improved-rail-services/?cs=12

More information on Western Rail can be found at westernrail.com.au.

http://westernrail.com.au/

BigShunter.

Ps. Is it worth posting all this, info,ie, is this too much info or just plain boring ?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Some info here from the bring passenger rail services back to western Victoria was launched at Stawell on Tuesday.

Link, from Wimmera MailTimes;

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4785064/new-campaign-pushes-for-improved-rail-services/?cs=12

More information on Western Rail can be found at westernrail.com.au.

http://westernrail.com.au/

BigShunter.

Ps. Is it worth posting all this, info,ie, is this too much info or just plain boring ?
BigShunter

It's never 'too boring'...it's entirely up to Railpage subscribers whether they read info links that are provided by posters.

Mike.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
It's a bit like the Mildura push.  It's easy to "campaign to bring passenger rail services back to western Victoria", but have they looked at the practicalities of doing so?  If so, do they have any realistic solutions?Lad_Porter

It's not for local government to have 'realistic solutions'.

The government paid for the report to be commissioned, consequently it was written and presented to government a few months ago.

[color=#0066cc][size=2][font=Roboto, wf_SegoeUI, "Segoe UI", Segoe, "Segoe WP", Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]http://westernrail.com.au/get-on-board/[/font][/size][/color]

Mike.
  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

It's a bit like the Mildura push.  It's easy to "campaign to bring passenger rail services back to western Victoria", but have they looked at the practicalities of doing so?  If so, do they have any realistic solutions?Lad_Porter

It's not for local government to have 'realistic solutions'.

The government paid for the report to be commissioned, consequently it was written and presented to government a few months ago.

[color=#0066cc][size=1][font=Roboto, wf_SegoeUI, ]http://westernrail.com.au/get-on-board/[/font][/size][/color]

Mike.
The Vinelander
The Study was commissioned by eight Wimmera & South Western Councils and funded by them . The Study team was led by John Hearsch Consulting with respresentation from Local Councils and Department of Transport.  Funding was provided primarily by the aforementioned Councils with a minor contribution from the State Government .  As the local Councils were the client the Study findings and recommendations were presented to those Councils in April this year .  Those same Councils have now officially launced their website and campaign to get rail passenger services restored to both Horsham and Hamilton as recommended in the Study .  The Study also recommended improvements to existing broad gauge services and Hamilton coach services as an interim measure, as well as other coach service improvements .
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Nevertheless, due to John Hearsch's railway career going back to the 1960's, he has a lot of credibility in PT circles that matter.

Mike.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Ps. Is it worth posting all this, info,ie, is this too much info or just plain boring ?
BigShunter
I'm with Mike on this one, definitely keep it up, for those of us who don't have time to trawl though regional papers / websites it is great insight.

BG
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Early-bird-services-to-leave-from-ararat, article in today's Wimmera MailTimes, nothing we don't already know, just informing the local natives.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4810639/early-bird-services-to-leave-from-ararat/?cs=12


BigShunter.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Another meeting in Ballarat, apparently at the station over the past weekend.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4812133/councils-join-in-rail-lobby/?cs=12

Our rail friend and advocate for the western Victoria rail re-instatement Mr John Hearsch was also in attendance, however I wonder how many of the local government representatives travelled by train to Ballarat for the meeting.

Mike.

Edited to add a dose of sarcasm. Surprised
  stooge spark Train Controller

@the Vinelander thank you for your info on Mildura, and sorry for the late response,  don't go here too often.


On-topic, I assume that the skys of Ballarat were coated with whiring metal blades on the day, can't have our government get the germs of westerners.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Another meeting in Ballarat, apparently at the station over the past weekend.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4812133/councils-join-in-rail-lobby/?cs=12

Our rail friend and advocate for the western Victoria rail re-instatement Mr John Hearsch was also in attendance, however I wonder how many of the local government representatives travelled by train to Ballarat for the meeting.

Mike.

Edited to add a dose of sarcasm. Surprised
The Vinelander

Who is this John chap?
  ParkesHub Chief Commissioner

Another meeting in Ballarat, apparently at the station over the past weekend.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4812133/councils-join-in-rail-lobby/?cs=12

Our rail friend and advocate for the western Victoria rail re-instatement Mr John Hearsch was also in attendance, however I wonder how many of the local government representatives travelled by train to Ballarat for the meeting.

Mike.

Edited to add a dose of sarcasm. Surprised

Who is this John chap?
x31
Was in VLine management for years, if I remember correctly. Vinelander will know.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Will there be rail passenger services west of Ballarat since the report was positive and the councils are ken to pursue?
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Trapped in a meeting with Rhonda and Karsten
Will there be rail passenger services west of Ballarat since the report was positive and the councils are ken to pursue?
x31
Are the councils going to pay for the services instead of the State Government? Rolling Eyes
  MetroFemme Chief Train Controller

Why should they as they are not responsible for rail passenger services?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Another meeting in Ballarat, apparently at the station over the past weekend.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4812133/councils-join-in-rail-lobby/?cs=12

Our rail friend and advocate for the western Victoria rail re-instatement Mr John Hearsch was also in attendance, however I wonder how many of the local government representatives travelled by train to Ballarat for the meeting.

Mike.

Edited to add a dose of sarcasm. Surprised

Who is this John chap?
Was in VLine management for years, if I remember correctly. Vinelander will know.
ParkesHub

John Hearsch is a railwayman in the old term for a railwayman. Worked his way up in the old VR days and now semi-retired offers consultancy work such as the recent part government funded report on the western Victorian proposal.

Mike.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
We can and will bring passenger rail back to Western Victoria but we need your help to do it.

wmailtimes.com.au/story/4810328/help-western-victoria-secure-passenger-rail/?cs=227ww.

Link Wimmera MailTimes,

BigShunter.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/4810328/help-western-victoria-secure-passenger-rail/?cs=227

sorry about that, rough operator.

BigShunter.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
A few links to the push for rail services, west of Ararat,

http://www.westernrail.com.au

http://www.facebook.com/westernrail.

BigShunter.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
A few links to the push for rail services, west of Ararat,

http://www.westernrail.com.au

http://www.facebook.com/westernrail.

BigShunter.
BigShunter

Good site the first one.

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