Public to name Melbourne’s five new underground Metro Rail stations

 
  MetroFemme Assistant Commissioner

Good idea and hopefully Arden street is not named after Wayne Carey.

What about Metro West for the Arden street station?

Public to name Melbourne’s five new underground Metro Rail stations

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  steve195 Train Controller

It's a silly stunt.

Arden, Parkville, Melbourne Central, Flinders Street / City Square and Domain. You know it makes sense.
  HardWorkingMan Chief Commissioner

Location: Echuca
the strength of Victoria's station names is they give you an idea of where you are geographically. The main exception used to be Rail Motor Stopping Places which were just numbers.

The rot began when the politicans wanted to open something new so they opened the new "Southern Cross" rather than the upgraded (?) Spencer Street
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
It's a silly stunt.
"steve195"
It's a cunning stunt. It diverts attention away from the important areas where the government is failing.
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
Sorry MetroFemme I have to disagree with you on this one. I reckon this is nothing more than a populist political stunt.

The stations should be named by a non political committee with the guidelines to select short, easy to remember and already familiar names for the locations. So the current draft names of Domain, Parkville and Arden are good ones.

After the Brits had an equally silly stunt to vote on a name for a new naval survey ship and the popular vote was overwhelmingly for Boaty McBoatface, I've nominated Trainey McTrainface for all five stations as a sort of protest against the silliness of this populist political stunt.

I encourage others to vote for Trainey McTrainface, or something equally silly as well. Razz
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
It's a silly stunt.

Arden, Parkville, Melbourne Central, Flinders Street / City Square and Domain. You know it makes sense.
steve195
Agree.
Station names should be representative of the the geographic area/suburb they serve.
I disagree that 'City Square' should get a mention as, basically, we do not have a City Square. We have a few paltry square metres of concrete that are, as often as not, given over to some commercial enterprise or other to the detriment of the community at large.
Perhaps the time is right for 'Princes Bridge' to return. Even St Paul's would be far better than 'City Square'.
I am waiting for some dhead to nominate Young and Jacksons.................
  steve195 Train Controller

It's a silly stunt.

Arden, Parkville, Melbourne Central, Flinders Street / City Square and Domain. You know it makes sense.
Agree.
Station names should be representative of the the geographic area/suburb they serve.
I disagree that 'City Square' should get a mention as, basically, we do not have a City Square. We have a few paltry square metres of concrete that are, as often as not, given over to some commercial enterprise or other to the detriment of the community at large.
Perhaps the time is right for 'Princes Bridge' to return. Even St Paul's would be far better than 'City Square'.
I am waiting for some dhead to nominate Young and Jacksons.................
YM-Mundrabilla
Indeed Melbourne was deliberately designed not to have a central square.
I was trying to think of a name that indicates that Flinders Street station is connected to the new station, as well as the fact that the other end will be at Collins Street.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Follins or Clinders?
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Arden
Parkville
Library
Federation
Domain
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
It's a silly stunt.

Arden, Parkville, Melbourne Central, Flinders Street / City Square and Domain. You know it makes sense.
Agree.
Station names should be representative of the the geographic area/suburb they serve.
I disagree that 'City Square' should get a mention as, basically, we do not have a City Square. We have a few paltry square metres of concrete that are, as often as not, given over to some commercial enterprise or other to the detriment of the community at large.
Perhaps the time is right for 'Princes Bridge' to return. Even St Paul's would be far better than 'City Square'.
I am waiting for some dhead to nominate Young and Jacksons.................
Indeed Melbourne was deliberately designed not to have a central square.
I was trying to think of a name that indicates that Flinders Street station is connected to the new station, as well as the fact that the other end will be at Collins Street.
steve195
Were there developers and brown paper envelopes even in those days. Of course there were!!!!Sad
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
It's interesting to see that everyone (so far), more or less agrees that this name a railway station thing is a stunt, despite people here often passionately disagreeing on other issues.

Renaming Spencer Street Station with that dodgy new name was only the latest in this sort of thing. In the olden days towns in Victoria such as Healesville, Stawell, Foster, Bright, Seviceton and several others were named after premiers or government ministers. Fortunately that sort of thing doesn't happen anymore. ... (Cough Ginifer cough.)

But to suggest that modern politicians in Victoria are corrupt as YM-M does in his 'brown paper envelope' comment is a bit too much. They're not corrupt, just self serving (there IS a difference) and this silly stunt is just a naive attempt by politicians to gain positive publicity for themselves.

However if the people here are any indication, the public has seen right through the stunt to the manipulative spin motive that lies behind it.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Best to name each station to surburb if possible, if not located directly on


Arden
Arden is changed to North Melbourne calling it North Melbourne makes sense
North Melbourne would need to be renamed to West Melbourne to reflect it is actually in that surburb despite the surburb not geographically correct and may create confusion

Alternatively name stays the same, as there probably be a new surburb created with the name Arden in mind.

Parkville
Parkville changed to Melbourne University since it borders many surburbs and it directly in the middle of the University


Alternatively stick to the name as it reflects the name of the hospital and health district plus it close enough to the surburb to be named after it


Changing it Hospital not suited since it actually not directly next to the main hospital. It would be confusing since most of exit are directly to the University not the Hospital district.


CBD North and CBD South

CBD North and CBD South should reflect the station it interchanges, other cities do this suceefully, such as London Underground. So therefore CBD North and CBD South should be Melbourne Central and Flinders Street respectively


Since I don't like Melb Central as a name, if it would be change to Library would be a better name than the shopping centre name.


Domain

Domain shouldn't be changed at all, lies directly to interchange at Domain interchange. Also in doesn't really lie in a surburb, I checked it say it is Melbourne?? So Domain is really the best name, reflects the park name, the street and the name of the tram interchange it lies directly on.


  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Arden
Arden is changed to North Melbourne calling it North Melbourne makes sense
North Melbourne would need to be renamed to West Melbourne to reflect it is actually in that surburb despite the surburb not geographically correct and may create confusion
James974
I had a look at some maps and agreed with all your suggestions, except for this one.

To swap a name from one long established station (which is staying open) to another new one would be the option to maximise confusion.

A simpler change here would be to shift the boundary of North Melbourne to incorporate the eastern part of West Melbourne on the east of the Moonee Ponds Creek into North Melbourne. That eastern part of West Melbourne would really fit better as a part of North Melbourne than with the rest of West Melbourne (from which it is separated by a big inhospitable mass of railyards and tollway onramps nearly a kilometre wide), and should see property values increase as well as correcting the railway station naming.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
It's a silly stunt.

Arden, Parkville, Melbourne Central, Flinders Street / City Square and Domain. You know it makes sense.
steve195

Parkville could be "University" ?
  Bogong Chief Commissioner

Location: Essendon Aerodrome circa 1980
It's a silly stunt.

Arden, Parkville, Melbourne Central, Flinders Street / City Square and Domain. You know it makes sense.

Parkville could be "University" ?
x31
There are half a dozen universities with their main campus in Melbourne and a dozen more with minor campuses in Melbourne (everything from the University of Central Queensland to London Uni). Now you might say that the location near Melb Uni is obvious, but it's also close to the main campus of RMIT which is best accessed from Melbourne Central station. That's why all trams terminating in the northern part of Swanston Street have their destination as Melbourne Uni, not just plain University.

The names that have been proposed for many years that Steve195 mentions above are already familiar, brief, clear, descriptive and have no potential for people to forget them or be confused about where they are. So unless someone wants to make a "statement" by naming them after a sportsperson, politician, social activist, etc, the proposed names are perfect in every way!

Don't change them! ... unless it's to Trainey McTrainface. Wink
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Bogong I submitted Melbourne University as an alternative name for Parkville
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Thinking more Parkville does also include the hospital precinct.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

Thinking more Parkville does also include the hospital precinct.
x31
I'd be happy enough if it was kept Parkville. Melbourne University is a worthy suggestion as an alternative.

Someone mentioned better to be it consistent with Arden being the same, ok it would be confusing. As nice as changing the suburb borders, I would agree it be better if entirely remove the West Melbourne suburb out of the northern part of the city and make it all North Melbourne. I don't know the history behind naming like it is current but it sure is weird having a station like North Melbourne which is in the North located in a suburb called West Melbourne. You could argue it is North and West, but it is more North than West when you look at its position compared to the CBD.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
Why are they even bothering with a competition? It's a sham consultation, just like all the other times they ran naming competitions: https://wongm.com/2016/07/new-station-name-contest-charade/
  N463 Locomotive Driver

Arden, Parkville and Domain are all appropriate station names

CBD North and CBD South are too generic, especially as there are already other stations in the north and south of the CBD.

Ideally the CBD North and CBD South stations would have been integrated into the existing Melbourne Central and Flinders Street stations (in which case there would have been no need for new names for these), however as that doesn't seem to be happening...

For CBD South I would suggest "City Square" as the station will be underneath City Square

For CBD North I would suggest "RMIT" as this would be the closest landmark that wouldn't be confused with Melbourne Central station.
Whilst I would prefer a more general name, the need to come up with something that distinguishes the station from Melbourne Central limits the possible landmarks after which it could be named. "RMIT" is sufficiently unique not to be confused with any of the other universities, and there are no other landmarks close enough that would be sufficiently distinct from Melbourne Central.

Naming the stations after streets is a problem with these stations as well. "Swanston St" could easily be applied to both the CBD North and CBD South (and Melbourne Central and Flinders St) stations, Collins St could also apply to Southern Cross, Latrobe St could also apply to Melbourne Central and Flagstaff, and Flinders St is already used. Franklin St probably isn't well enough known to be naming a station after.

Which would give us the names Arden, Parkville, RMIT, City Square and Domain.

Perhaps the time is right for 'Princes Bridge' to return.
YM-Mundrabilla
Federation
kitchgp
Much as I would like to see the Princes Bridge name to be revived, I don't think it is a good fit here as Flinders St Station will be closer to both Federation Square and Princes Bridge than the new CBD south station.

Library
kitchgp
On a similar note, the State Library will be closer to Melbourne Central station than the CBD North station.

Parkville Parkville changed to Melbourne University since it borders many surburbs and it directly in the middle of the University
James974
Whilst University would be an acceptable name, Parkville would be better, for the reasons that Bogong mentioned above.


Arden Arden is changed to North Melbourne calling it North Melbourne makes sense North Melbourne would need to be renamed to West Melbourne to reflect it is actually in that surburb despite the surburb not geographically correct and may create confusion
James974
I also agree with justapassenger that swapping station names is a bad idea. Remember that the point of naming stations after the place that they are in is to reduce confusion, not to create more.


Arden, Parkville, Melbourne Central, Flinders Street / City Square and Domain. You know it makes sense.
steve195
Melbourne Central and Flinders St would only make sense if the new stations were a part of the existing ones. Based on what I've heard so far, it appears this will not be so, and having 2 stations with the same name would not be good at all...
Aside from those, the rest of stave195’s suggestions do make sense.

Which is why I would suggest that we should all go to name submission website (or visit the information booth at Federation Square) and submit a suggestion along these lines before we end up with stations named after places hundreds of light years away. Hopefully if enough people do so, they might (???) get the message and use sensible names.
http://metrotunnel.vic.gov.au/stations/suggest-a-station-name



Station names should be based on the location of the station. Failure to do so creates confusion, especially for visitors or people not familiar with the public transport system. This makes the the system more difficult for people to use, which in turn discourages the use of public transport.



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Don't change them! ... unless it's to Trainey McTrainface. Wink
Bogong
I've heard that Station McStationface has been suggested.


N463
  Spletsie Chief Commissioner

Most stations are named after geographical locations.

Many of the sidings on the Trans-Australian Railway were named after politicians of the early 1900s.

Hopefully they will avoid politicians this time.

Whatever the names chosen, I think passengers will get used to them quickly enough.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Much as I would like to see the Princes Bridge name to be revived, I don't think it is a good fit here as Flinders St Station will be closer to both Federation Square and Princes Bridge than the new CBD south station.
N463

According to the preliminary CBD South station design there will be a station entrance at Federation Square. Personally I'm just as happy with CBD North and CBD South, it's just that the extra syllables pronouncing the CBD abbreviation makes them a bit of a mouthful. City North and City South perhaps? RMIT is similar. The other 3 are fine. Arden is near the Arden Street Football Ground, AFL North Melbourne's training base, and part of the Melbourne City Council's push to re-develop the Macauley - Arden area. Macauley obviously has already been taken. As mentioned numerous times above, it all seems like a bit of a stunt but hopefully by participating the importance of location-descriptive names can be emphasised.

None of the above explains West Richmond (further east than Richmond)!
  Boss Chief Commissioner

Location: Caulfield Line
My suggestions

Arden
Parkville
Metro North
metro South
Domain
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
My suggestions

Arden
Parkville
Metro North
metro South
Domain
Boss
You don't want two stations with the 'same' (partial anyway) name or any 'double-barrel' names.
Just 'North' and 'South' would suffice in my view.
Short, sharp and simple should be the basis of all the new names IMHO.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
We should name them after well known identities:-

Attila the Hun
Genghis Khan
Margaret Thatcher
Ned Kelly
Lurgi the Wonder Dog.

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