PN to lose Allied Mills grain contract

 
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Rumours flowing PN have lost the Allied Mills grain contract to another operator.  This is the Kensington Grain work.

Also hearing Sunshine grain elevators to begin operation again.

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  YM-Mundrabilla The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Somebody mentioned the Kensington bit a week or so ago here on RP.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Somebody mentioned the Kensington bit a week or so ago here on RP.
YM-Mundrabilla

Do we know who won the contract? SSR?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Somebody mentioned the Kensington bit a week or so ago here on RP.

Do we know who won the contract? SSR?
x31
Apparently yes.  That might explain why there's a fair few SSR locos and some wagons going to BG at present.

Good news too if Sunshine silos are being reactivated.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
What will Sunshine be used for?  What was it used for in the past?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
What will Sunshine be used for?  What was it used for in the past?
james.au
I have often wondered the same thing while gazing out the window of a passing Vlocity.

Quite a big set up there and IIRC they did a fair bit of work there during the RRL build?

BG
  Carnot Minister for Railways

What will Sunshine be used for?  What was it used for in the past?
I have often wondered the same thing while gazing out the window of a passing Vlocity.

Quite a big set up there and IIRC they did a fair bit of work there during the RRL build?

BG
BrentonGolding
The Sunshine silos (Graincorp) were regularly visited by PN grain trains up to just a few years back.  Saw plenty of use in 2010-2013 at least.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
GM10 has only just ventured down to Melbourne, B61 has recently returned as has S317, the latter was converted to BG at Seymour I believe.

Along with several C class, a couple of RLs, GM22, GM27, 4 T class and B75. Also rumours around that S302 might be on her way back home. It would seem SSR are amassing quite a locomotive pool in Melbourne. Makes me think they are really winding up to something big. Kensington may just be the tip of their Iceberg.

Also, they did only recently buy 180 coal wagons from South Australia and convert them for grain work. There is plenty of grain work to be done in Victoria.
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
Lets hope it isn't a repeat of the Warnambool Goods saga for SSR...
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Lets hope it isn't a repeat of the Warnambool Goods saga for SSR...
LancedDendrite

Yes didn't Victrack want them off the network?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
What will Sunshine be used for?  What was it used for in the past?
I have often wondered the same thing while gazing out the window of a passing Vlocity.

Quite a big set up there and IIRC they did a fair bit of work there during the RRL build?

BG
The Sunshine silos (Graincorp) were regularly visited by PN grain trains up to just a few years back.  Saw plenty of use in 2010-2013 at least.
Carnot
Sorry to be naive but was this road in, rail to port loading or rail in and then road out to local millers? Both seem equally unlikely so is there a third option?

BG
  LancedDendrite Chief Commissioner

Location: Gheringhap Loop Autonomous Zone
Lets hope it isn't a repeat of the Warnambool Goods saga for SSR...

Yes didn't Victrack want them off the network?
bevans
No, and not just because once again as I have to tell you every time, VicTrack doesn't have anything to do with rail network access. That's V/Line's responsibility and they had nothing to do with the Warrnambool Goods saga. It was purely customer-driven.
  ThyRiverina Station Master

The C class have returned to NSW, another pair of RL's maybe Vic bound so time in the future.

SSR may have also gained Allied in NSW ( Maldon ) a loaded SSR train is said to be doing a load there later this week.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The C class have returned to NSW, another pair of RL's maybe Vic bound so time in the future.

SSR may have also gained Allied in NSW ( Maldon ) a loaded SSR train is said to be doing a load there later this week.
ThyRiverina

From where to where does the Maldon loading go?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
1. Im still not sure what role Sunshine played in the grain export chain - was it a sub terminal due to port capacity issues?

2. What was the Warrnambool issue?

3. Given Allied Mills is no longer owned by Cargill/Graincorp, two large PN clients, it probably makes sense that their rail haulage has been tendered.  Good to see SSR get into more work.

4. Maldon is a flour mill near Picton/Campbelltown.  Grain goes in from the NSW grainbelt.  Flour goes out to wherever its needed.  Inbound has rail access but outbound would be road.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
I think whatever the issue was with SSR and VicTrack it has long since been resolved as SSR will be paying access and stirages charges for use of the Sth Dynon turntable and storage facilities.   I think there is no doubt they are very established now based on their scale of operations in NSW and Victoria.  The Kensington Mill grain traffic is something they are well suited for.   Turning to the Sunshine facility it does now have a new owner, something I'm yet to track down and I understand it will be served by SSR. (not 100% sure but fairly certain).  

The Sunshine reactivation has a lot to do with the deregulation of the grain sector and the emergence of new grain handlers.   Similar to this is advice that output from Tocumwal for both containerised and bulk grain is set to triple and there are works planned to expand rail facilities there so certainly a clawing back of grain to rail.

The Murray Basin project will very likely see SSR further expand and I wouldn't be surprised to see QUBE expand as well.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Told this very morning SSR have also picked up a lot of BG grain traffic including Tocumwal.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The Sunshine grain terminal could easily have SG access connected via DG from Brooklyn.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The Sunshine grain terminal could easily have SG access connected via DG from Brooklyn.
Nightfire

Yes it could easily be done agreed but would you allow SG crossing of the BG on UP side of Sunshine?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
5. Who is the new owner of the Sunshine terminal?
  ThyRiverina Station Master

1. Im still not sure what role Sunshine played in the grain export chain - was it a sub terminal due to port capacity issues?

2. What was the Warrnambool issue?

3. Given Allied Mills is no longer owned by Cargill/Graincorp, two large PN clients, it probably makes sense that their rail haulage has been tendered.  Good to see SSR get into more work.

4. Maldon is a flour mill near Picton/Campbelltown.  Grain goes in from the NSW grainbelt.  Flour goes out to wherever its needed.  Inbound has rail access but outbound would be road.
james.au
SSR have had 2 rakes of grain wagons operating on GrainCorps behalf since early this year, Generally transferring grain from outlying locations to sub terminals for consolidation.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
SSR train brining further wagons south yesterday.
  Trainplanner Chief Commissioner

Location: Along the Line
Any pictures of the class of wagons they are converting to BG.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Any pictures of the class of wagons they are converting to BG.
Trainplanner

I believe them to be these unless otherwise advised.

(hauling two CGGY (ex mineral sands wagon) , seven BGGX and two BGGY grain wagon)



Photo: Bradley Matthews
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Looks like exciting times for Rail at the moment in Vic.

As the great Bill Lawry would say "It's all happening heyah!"

BG

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