SRV Farewell Broadway (Wycheproof) - 7th Oct 2017

 
  ryleyrail Station Master

Why did A2 986 have to go up to Maryborough on it's own? Did it have something to do with hauling such a heavy train over the Islington Bank?
DALEK
I recall reading that it was due to the 50kmh speed restriction placed on locos running tender first, and therefore by running A2 986 separately the tour could be run faster between Melbourne and Maryborough.

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  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Definitly nothing to do with the grades.

The A2 combined with the N and T had no issue storming their way up Warrenheip bank (although the sound coming from the T was mighty).

The N was required due to new requirements for all trains to be fitted with ICE radio (Steamrail at the time were yet to fit any of their Steamers with ICE radio, they have sinced organised a portable set up to carry on their trains, alleviating the need for modifications to all of their heritage steam locomotives)

60km/h limit Tender 1st wasn't an issue North of Maryborough, hence why they added it to the rest of the train there.
  N463 Locomotive Driver

The N was required due to new requirements for all trains to be fitted with ICE radio (Steamrail at the time were yet to fit any of their Steamers with ICE radio, they have sinced organised a portable set up to carry on their trains, alleviating the need for modifications to all of their heritage steam locomotives)
Gman_86

I can clearly remember standing on the platform at Maryborough, looking into through the cab windows of A² 986 and seeing an electronic control panel fitted to the underside of the cab roof, above the driver's seat. This contraption was not present during the 2016 Steamrail open day.
The device in question looked the same as the one installed in the cab of T357 shown in this SRHC blog post about fitting ICE radio to their T:
http://srhcblog.blogspot.com.au/2017/09/late-september.html (21st photo down the page)
This would suggest that the A² already had it's radio fitted at the time of the Wycheproof trip.

I can also remember being told at the 2016 open day that there was no portable ICE radio (this was from one of Steamrail's people, and I don't know if this has changed since)

Also, doesn't the leading loco have to be fitted? As the A² lead the train on the return trip (and was the only loco on the transfer to Maryborough) it would presumably have to have ICE radio fitted...


N463
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
As the A² lead the train ...
"N463"
I read this all the time on RP.  Correct wording is the A2 led the train.
The A2 was leading; the A2 was in the lead; the A2 led.
  ryleyrail Station Master

The N was required due to new requirements for all trains to be fitted with ICE radio (Steamrail at the time were yet to fit any of their Steamers with ICE radio, they have sinced organised a portable set up to carry on their trains, alleviating the need for modifications to all of their heritage steam locomotives)

I can clearly remember standing on the platform at Maryborough, looking into through the cab windows of A² 986 and seeing an electronic control panel fitted to the underside of the cab roof, above the driver's seat. This contraption was not present during the 2016 Steamrail open day.
The device in question looked the same as the one installed in the cab of T357 shown in this SRHC blog post about fitting ICE radio to their T:
http://srhcblog.blogspot.com.au/2017/09/late-september.html (21st photo down the page)
This would suggest that the A² already had it's radio fitted at the time of the Wycheproof trip.

I can also remember being told at the 2016 open day that there was no portable ICE radio (this was from one of Steamrail's people, and I don't know if this has changed since)

Also, doesn't the leading loco have to be fitted? As the A² lead the train on the return trip (and was the only loco on the transfer to Maryborough) it would presumably have to have ICE radio fitted...


N463
N463
Very good point, N463.

I have just watched a youtube video of A2 986 on the Wycheproof tour and the Essendon steam shuttles and quite clearly I am able to see some ICE Radio fins on the rear of the tender. They're the exact same as those fitted to K153 on the rail and sail, which were still present at the Essendon steam Shuttles, so Steamrail must have a few of these in their possession. Anyway, back to my original point, I would say yes A2 986 must have been fitted by the Wycheproof tour.

Perhaps a crew member on the day could clear this up for us all?
  ryleyrail Station Master

Incase anyone wanted to see the footage.

Around 16:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSpbh5sDsUw


Footage by Matt Oaten
  steamfreak Assistant Commissioner

Location: Wodonga, VIC
As the A² lead the train ...
I read this all the time on RP.  Correct wording is the A2 led the train.
The A2 was leading; the A2 was in the lead; the A2 led.
Valvegear
And the A2 was not made of lead (Pb).
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
And the A2 was not made of lead (Pb).
"steamfreak"
Pb is from the Latin "plumbum". An old expression for someone trying to dodge work by faking illness was "swinging the lead."
The medical profession used to call it "Plumbum pendulum".
  N463 Locomotive Driver

They're the exact same as those fitted to K153 on the rail and sail, which were still present at the Essendon steam Shuttles, so Steamrail must have a few of these in their possession.
ryleyrail
R711 also had the antennas on it's tender during it's recent trip to Seymour along with R707. The information sheets left on passengers seats on that trip stated that R707 had not yet been fitted with ICE radio. R711 led the Seymour trip in both directions.

So, that gives the following locomotives as having their radios fitted:
A² 986
R711
K153
B74 (as of last weekends Spirit of Progress trip)

Does anyone know which other preserved locos (if any) have been done.


N463

With apologies to Valvegear for my poor grammar.....
  ryleyrail Station Master

Does anyone know which other preserved locos (if any) have been done.
N463
On October 28 I saw (from the seat of my overcrowded VLP service) Y112 in the Geelong loco depot, one could presume it had been fitted by this point as it is after the Wycheproof tour.
  trestle_nutter Train Controller

Location: Yarra Valley
Why did A2 986 have to go up to Maryborough on it's own? Did it have something to do with hauling such a heavy train over the Islington Bank?
DALEK
because of the speed restriction of travelling tender first, the rest of the consist would have had to leave Melb. a lot earlier if the A2 had been included, so it travelled up earlier to shorten the trip time involved for the passengers
  Clyde Goodwin2 Chief Train Controller

Do try thinking people.
The loco,s have the Aerials and other things fitted they use a PORTABLE ICE Radio box/set moved between units as required so not EVERY loco has a ICE Radio.

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