Waratah mk2 - B Sets (Sydney Growth Trains)

 
  Speedbird1 Locomotive Fireman

Location: Wyee
So let's begin again shall we...

For those unaware, photos have emerged of The first set B1 being unloaded at Carrington Docks yesterday.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/54402111929/permalink/10155068310531930/

Anyone know when B1 will head south?

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  duttonbay Minister for Railways

That's a closed group, so you can't get past the SETS front page without applying to become a member of the group.
  Speedbird1 Locomotive Fireman

Location: Wyee
That's a closed group, so you can't get past the SETS front page without applying to become a member of the group.
duttonbay
My bad. Basically just some photos showing the cars in the air and on the quay. Apologies for the dud link.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Given that these are numbered in the Millennium series, aren't these better described as Mk2 Millennium trains rather than Waratahs?

Peter
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

Given that these are numbered in the Millennium series, aren't these better described as Mk2 Millennium trains rather than Waratahs?

Peter
M636C
No. They are for all intents and purposes a Waratah with some upgraded features. They will be numbered B1-25 with the possibility of more to replace the C and K sets.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Given that these are numbered in the Millennium series, aren't these better described as Mk2 Millennium trains rather than Waratahs?

Peter
No. They are for all intents and purposes a Waratah with some upgraded features. They will be numbered B1-25 with the possibility of more to replace the C and K sets.
simstrain
The individual cars are numbered in the Millennium series, not the set numbers....

Peter
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Given that these are numbered in the Millennium series, aren't these better described as Mk2 Millennium trains rather than Waratahs?

Peter
No. They are for all intents and purposes a Waratah with some upgraded features. They will be numbered B1-25 with the possibility of more to replace the C and K sets.
The individual cars are numbered in the Millennium series, not the set numbers....

Peter
M636C
Maybe the less than satisfactory Millenniums are going to be replaced by B sets? The C and K sets still have a bit of life in them.
  M636C Minister for Railways

The A sets had car numbers in the series used by single deck Interurbans and Tangara trains.

The U sets used 50xx and 60xx numbers.
The T sets used 51xx and 52xx, 61xx and 62xx numbers
The G sets used 58xx and 68xx numbers
The H sets used 59xx and 69xx numbers, but overflowed into the 58xx and 68xx left spare by G sets.

The Waratahs used 53xx, 54xx, 55xx, 56xx and 63xx, 64xx. 65xx and 66xx
Since the Waratah sets were numbered up to 80, there weren't enough spare numbers in the series for the B sets.

The Millennium sets were numbered 10xx upward and 15xx upward
The B sets are:

11xx, 12xx, 13xx, 14xx and 16xx, 17xx, 18xx, 19xx

This fills in the series used by the Millennium cars and importantly leaves room for more orders in the same series.

But since the basic design for the Millennium and Waratah trains is the same, the main difference being different electrical equipment, the additional trains could be regarded as additional Millennium cars as much as additional Waratah cars.

Peter
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
So let's begin again shall we...

For those unaware, photos have emerged of The first set B1 being unloaded at Carrington Docks yesterday.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/54402111929/permalink/10155068310531930/

Anyone know when B1 will head south?
Speedbird1

I think they have to go to Cardiff first.

The first transfer with SSR locos 44204/44206 is happening as I type.
  simstrain Chief Commissioner

The milleniums and waratahs have some significant differences. One is a 4 car design and the other is an 8 car design. The B sets look exactly the same as the A sets. The B set cab is exactly the same as the A set and the only difference is purely the AC and PID displays.

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