Miscellaneous VIC sightings # 2

 
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
X43 derailed with G522 staying on track.
speedemon08
It is amazing how the mind plays tricks on you, I saw the locos from the RRL line last evening at around 6.30 and in my minds eye it was an FA schemed G class and a freshly repainted XR or similar. Weird.

BG

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  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
There have been some big PN intermodal trains departing North Dynon recently, as long if not longer than the Aurizon ones back when they still had the SCT loading on board.

This evening's service saw the locos a fair way out past the fuel point with the tail end right back past Radcliffe St.

I am not sure if these are MB services or something different but it is great to see after a bit of a quiet period for the yard.

BG
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
There have been some big PN intermodal trains departing North Dynon recently, as long if not longer than the Aurizon ones back when they still had the SCT loading on board.

This evening's service saw the locos a fair way out past the fuel point with the tail end right back past Radcliffe St.

I am not sure if these are MB services or something different but it is great to see after a bit of a quiet period for the yard.

BG
BrentonGolding
Brenton,

As per the latest ARTC MTP BM4/MB4 now operate out of North Dynon, and have been doing so for about a month or so.

Jack
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

A hi-rail in west Tottenham Yard on the BG as I passed just now, couldn't tell much of what was going on but some rail was being lifted. Perhaps where the G came unstuck a couple of weeks ago?

Also, would someone with a better knowledge of V/Line workings be able to explain why a VL set parked in the Sunshine grain roads this morning for about 15 minutes before heading down through Sunshine empty cars?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
There is a pic over at VicSig today showing SSR doing a driver training run to Traralgon.

Is this for a new service or just retraining for an existing, I can't think of any service they currently run down there

BG
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
There is a pic over at VicSig today showing SSR doing a driver training run to Traralgon.

Is this for a new service or just retraining for an existing, I can't think of any service they currently run down there

BG
BrentonGolding

How interesting.

Maybe this is for a new container service in Gippsland or logs?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
There is a pic over at VicSig today showing SSR doing a driver training run to Traralgon.

Is this for a new service or just retraining for an existing, I can't think of any service they currently run down there

BG

How interesting.

Maybe this is for a new container service in Gippsland or logs?
x31
perhaps for the Proposed log traffic to Colac ?

Colac to Maryvale proposed traffic
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
There is a pic over at VicSig today showing SSR doing a driver training run to Traralgon.

Is this for a new service or just retraining for an existing, I can't think of any service they currently run down there

BG

How interesting.

Maybe this is for a new container service in Gippsland or logs?
perhaps for the Proposed log traffic to Colac ?

Colac to Maryvale proposed traffic
Dangersdan707
HCMT transfer training, I would guess.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
I noticed SSR's S317 & S302 sitting at Charlton with their grain wagons today.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
There is a pic over at VicSig today showing SSR doing a driver training run to Traralgon.

Is this for a new service or just retraining for an existing, I can't think of any service they currently run down there

BG

How interesting.

Maybe this is for a new container service in Gippsland or logs?
perhaps for the Proposed log traffic to Colac ?

Colac to Maryvale proposed traffic
HCMT transfer training, I would guess.
Jack Le Lievre
Rail Dropping for the moment for that bit of gippsland line duplication.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
HCMT = ?????
Please.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
HCMT = ?????
Please.
YM-Mundrabilla
High Capacity Metro Trains? Although why they would be venturing to Traralgon is beyond me!

HA - Happy Acronyming!

BG
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
HCMT = ?????
Please.
High Capacity Metro Trains? Although why they would be venturing to Traralgon is beyond me!

HA - Happy Acronyming!

BG
BrentonGolding
TBG
(Thanks BG)Smile
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
HCMT = ?????
Please.
YM-Mundrabilla
High Capacity Metro Trains. Sorry, I thought I had seen you post something in that thread? And had also thought that most people on Railpage would have been aware what it stood for. Again, sorry for not clarifying.

Jack
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
HCMT = ?????
Please.
High Capacity Metro Trains. Sorry, I thought I had seen you post something in that thread? And had also thought that most people on Railpage would have been aware what it stood for. Again, sorry for clarifying.

Jack
Jack Le Lievre
Thanks Jack.
In this thread and given the context of SSR and Traralgon I didn't make the connection. Smile
  vlocity27 Junior Train Controller

Location: Pakenham
SSR locomotive sighted in Morwell yesterday afternoon in the siding at the station, it had a few wagons. Unsure what was on them as only got a quick look.

Was also stabled there on Monday 26th.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
SSR locomotive sighted in Morwell yesterday afternoon in the siding at the station, it had a few wagons. Unsure what was on them as only got a quick look.

Was also stabled there on Monday 26th.
vlocity27
Photos over at VicSig showing 2 x SSR T class running a rail train to Morwell.

As pointed out by others elsewhere in response to a post by yours truly they ran driver training runs out to Traralgon a few days ago as they apparently have a contract to provide works trains for the upcoming upgrade works.

BG
  vlocity27 Junior Train Controller

Location: Pakenham
SSR locomotive sighted in Morwell yesterday afternoon in the siding at the station, it had a few wagons. Unsure what was on them as only got a quick look.

Was also stabled there on Monday 26th.
Photos over at VicSig showing 2 x SSR T class running a rail train to Morwell.

As pointed out by others elsewhere in response to a post by yours truly they ran driver training runs out to Traralgon a few days ago as they apparently have a contract to provide works trains for the upcoming upgrade works.

BG
BrentonGolding
Thanks mate! Very helpful.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Silly question, perhaps:

How does an operator new to a route train engine crews for their new routes if they have not already got/inherited (whatever) a driver trainer already qualified for that route?
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Silly question, perhaps:

How does an operator new to a route train engine crews for their new routes if they have not already got/inherited (whatever) a driver trainer already qualified for that route?
YM-Mundrabilla
I know on the Defined Interstate Rail Network (DIRN) (ARTC part) one can gain route knowledge, by being taken for a prescribed amount of trips in a Hi-Rail with a Track Inspector or another Qualified Rail Worker.

It might be a question for @LowndesJ515, as QUBE would have had to have found a way to gain route knowledge for the Portland Line, as at one stage PN had a ban on any former employees with route knowledge of the Portland Line from working for any opposition operator, therefore route knowledge was unable to passed along through that line.

Jack
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Off topic for a second -  What qualification did the instructor at the first ladder course have to enable him to instruct others on how to safely climb a ladder?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Off topic for a second -  What qualification did the instructor at the first ladder course have to enable him to instruct others on how to safely climb a ladder?
Donald
The first ladder instructor was taught by a monkey with a ladder. The procedure is unchanged to this very day. Smile

Actually, he used common sense which is not permitted these days having been replaced by four 1,000 page volumes of O H & S diagrams, rules and regulations.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
at one stage PN had a ban on any former employees with route knowledge of the Portland Line from working for any opposition operator, therefore route knowledge was unable to passed along through that line.

Jack
Jack Le Lievre
How would or could they enforce that? If the employee leaves PN then surely PN has no control over what they can or can't do next? Surely the RTBU amongst many other parties would take a keen interest in that as it is restraint of trade and restraint of employment

BG
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
at one stage PN had a ban on any former employees with route knowledge of the Portland Line from working for any opposition operator, therefore route knowledge was unable to passed along through that line.

Jack
How would or could they enforce that? If the employee leaves PN then surely PN has no control over what they can or can't do next? Surely the RTBU amongst many other parties would take a keen interest in that as it is restraint of trade and restraint of employment

BG
BrentonGolding
Agree.
Something similar was tried by SOME systems when National Rail was set up. People were told that they would not get a redundancy payout if they were going to NR.
Whatever the VR was called that day tried it but I don't know how many (if any) were actually affected.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Silly question, perhaps:

How does an operator new to a route train engine crews for their new routes if they have not already got/inherited (whatever) a driver trainer already qualified for that route?
I know on the Defined Interstate Rail Network (DIRN) (ARTC part) one can gain route knowledge, by being taken for a prescribed amount of trips in a Hi-Rail with a Track Inspector or another Qualified Rail Worker.

It might be a question for @LowndesJ515, as QUBE would have had to have found a way to gain route knowledge for the Portland Line, as at one stage PN had a ban on any former employees with route knowledge of the Portland Line from working for any opposition operator, therefore route knowledge was unable to passed along through that line.

Jack
Jack Le Lievre
I'm not going to comment on how QUBE conduct their training, sorry. That's their business.

I fail to see how a company can for a ban on ex employee with route knowledge going to another company, that is a ludicrous statement. El Zorro ventured down to Portland numerous times, they had a depot there. Up until now, there probably hasn't been a need for another operator to access Portland. Didn't PN have a 6 month absence?

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