Carnot Minister for Railways

One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...

Either way, it gives SSR extra hauling power to enable two BG trains to run (1 grain, 1 miscellaneous freight).

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  phower Chief Commissioner

Location: Over on Kangaroo Island Sth Aust
I ask this as a question  or have i missed some thing , 312 was restored and leased to "Elzorro"  for a period of time, next I read its gone to SSR 'good' but why then has it been stored or what ever  was it blown up so to speak by the leasing Co or not restored correctly does any one know .
Is it motor or bogies problem as to why its being duck shoved for want of a word ?? or what is the issue  has any one got a truthful idea as to the problem , I do know it spent some time in Goulburn for the stated reason it was trapped when the turntable was out because of a problem  with wagons in the pit ....
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
The intention is to reactivate S312 for BG - how long that takes is another matter and will likely be influenced by new business opportunities if and when they arise.
bingley hall
Busy times out at North Bendigo what with the PN contract, V/Line work, Hitachi Asbestos testing and their own work.

Good to see.

BG
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Imagine what might be possible with SG into Bendigo?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
I ask this as a question  or have i missed some thing , 312 was restored and leased to "Elzorro"  for a period of time, next I read its gone to SSR 'good' but why then has it been stored or what ever  was it blown up so to speak by the leasing Co or not restored correctly does any one know .
Is it motor or bogies problem as to why its being duck shoved for want of a word ?? or what is the issue  has any one got a truthful idea as to the problem , I do know it spent some time in Goulburn for the stated reason it was trapped when the turntable was out because of a problem  with wagons in the pit ....
phower

I'm not quite sure why people see a need to over dramatise everything.

It was owned by an individual  - El Zorro leased it.

El Zorro no longer exist. There was no work for S312 so it was stored (in the open), during which time it was vandalised.

It was up for sale, so SSR bought it as back up for their Vic BG plans..

SSR will fix it up.

There's there's nothing to stop it ending up on SG again one day.

End of story (I'm sure there's a bit more to it than the above, but you get the gist.)
  trainguy84 Junior Train Controller

Hi

Did anyone capture the transfer or was it under the guise of darkness. Is S312 still in the black Railpower livery?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zK25MdzACuw#

YouTube link. Credit to Declan for posting.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...
Carnot
I haven't heard specifically Bairnsdale log train, but potentially a log train somewhere else.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...
I haven't heard specifically Bairnsdale log train, but potentially a log train somewhere else.
speedemon08
Perhaps This one?
https://www.railpage.com.au/f-t11396511.htm
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...
I haven't heard specifically Bairnsdale log train, but potentially a log train somewhere else.
speedemon08
one doubts there will be any rail freight traffic of any kind past Sale until the stratford bridge is replaced.
  decry1234 Station Master

The return trip...

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  Carnot Minister for Railways

One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...
I haven't heard specifically Bairnsdale log train, but potentially a log train somewhere else.
one doubts there will be any rail freight traffic of any kind past Sale until the stratford bridge is replaced.
Galron
And not for another 3 years apparently:
http://www.gippslandtimes.com.au/story/5446322/bridge-replacement-by-2021/
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...
I haven't heard specifically Bairnsdale log train, but potentially a log train somewhere else.
one doubts there will be any rail freight traffic of any kind past Sale until the stratford bridge is replaced.
And not for another 3 years apparently:
http://www.gippslandtimes.com.au/story/5446322/bridge-replacement-by-2021/
Carnot
If Velocities are OK for the bridge why spend money on an upgrade just so outdated loco hauled trains can use it?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...
I haven't heard specifically Bairnsdale log train, but potentially a log train somewhere else.
one doubts there will be any rail freight traffic of any kind past Sale until the stratford bridge is replaced.
And not for another 3 years apparently:
http://www.gippslandtimes.com.au/story/5446322/bridge-replacement-by-2021/
Carnot

If an N class can get over that bridge, I'm sure an X, T, P, S or B class could get over it hauling a log train.
  brownhillboy Train Controller

One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...
I haven't heard specifically Bairnsdale log train, but potentially a log train somewhere else.
one doubts there will be any rail freight traffic of any kind past Sale until the stratford bridge is replaced.
And not for another 3 years apparently:
http://www.gippslandtimes.com.au/story/5446322/bridge-replacement-by-2021/

If an N class can get over that bridge, I'm sure an X, T, P, S or B class could get over it hauling a log train.
Dangersdan707
I wonder if the bridge will be replaced in time for rail to be considered as a viable option for the Fingerboards Mineral Sands project. The Kalbar website lists the latest transport options, including rail from Maryvale, or near the site of Fernbank.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...
I haven't heard specifically Bairnsdale log train, but potentially a log train somewhere else.
one doubts there will be any rail freight traffic of any kind past Sale until the stratford bridge is replaced.
And not for another 3 years apparently:
http://www.gippslandtimes.com.au/story/5446322/bridge-replacement-by-2021/

If an N class can get over that bridge, I'm sure an X, T, P, S or B class could get over it hauling a log train.
Dangersdan707
issue at present is, no freight services to operate without permision of the GM Network Services and no multi-unit constits permited on the bridge. See the Network Services Plan

Page 1
Trains travelling across the AVON RIVER BRIDGE STRATFORD are not to operate in multi-unit consist

page 5
Freight trains are not permitted to operate between Sale and Bairnsdale without prior permission from General Manager Network Services Department
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
One new business opportunity I keep hearing about is a resurrected Bairnsdale log train...
I haven't heard specifically Bairnsdale log train, but potentially a log train somewhere else.
one doubts there will be any rail freight traffic of any kind past Sale until the stratford bridge is replaced.
And not for another 3 years apparently:
http://www.gippslandtimes.com.au/story/5446322/bridge-replacement-by-2021/

If an N class can get over that bridge, I'm sure an X, T, P, S or B class could get over it hauling a log train.
issue at present is, no freight services to operate without permision of the GM Network Services and no multi-unit constits permited on the bridge. See the Network Services Plan

Page 1
Trains travelling across the AVON RIVER BRIDGE STRATFORD are not to operate in multi-unit consist

page 5
Freight trains are not permitted to operate between Sale and Bairnsdale without prior permission from General Manager Network Services Department
Galron
The link that you shared doesn't work
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
If Velocities are OK for the bridge why spend money on an upgrade just so outdated loco hauled trains can use it?
nswtrains
The bridge is long due for replacement. It was never designed for a life as long as its had, best to replace it before it falls down of its own accord.

If an N class can get over that bridge, I'm sure an X, T, P, S or B class could get over it hauling a log train.
dangersdan707
As far as I can gather, the issue is axle load, 1 locomotive and a handfull of N cars is the limit of what the bridge can handle. Any freight worth bothering with a train over road is going to be too much for this bridge.

Back on the topic of S312, Has it made its way to Victoria yet?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Back on the topic of S312, Has it made its way to Victoria yet?
Gman_86

S312 will be hauled by 442s5 from Cootamundra to Seymour this evening (dep 1700).
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
How bad or badly was it vandalised Bing ?
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
The link that you shared doesn't work
Dangersdan707


updated in the post. Try this one

Network Services Plan
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
The link that you shared doesn't work


updated in the post. Try this one

Network Services Plan
Galron
Thank you For the link. Interesting to see that GMs are listed as locos that still can be accredited to Run on the Victorian BG network. I Assume this is due to GM 36s ventures on BG in the past?
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
The link that you shared doesn't work


updated in the post. Try this one

Network Services Plan
Thank you For the link. Interesting to see that GMs are listed as locos that still can be accredited to Run on the Victorian BG network. I Assume this is due to GM 36s ventures on BG in the past?
Dangersdan707
not entirely surprising given the 2nd series GM's are basicaly an S class. I think SSR have been/are running GM's on their vic grain trains as well.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic

Thank you For the link. Interesting to see that GMs are listed as locos that still can be accredited to Run on the Victorian BG network. I Assume this is due to GM 36s ventures on BG in the past?
not entirely surprising given the 2nd series GM's are basicaly an S class. I think SSR have been/are running GM's on their vic grain trains as well.
Galron

You are also forgetting the fact that the GM12s were on Broad Gauge prior to the conversion of the MAL. And were regular visitors to Victoria in the early 90's. But even prior to that they were used on the Superior Gauge on the North-East during the 60's and beyond.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
not entirely surprising given the S class are basically a 2nd series GM. I think SSR have been/are running GM's on their vic grain trains as well.
Galron

Edited for accuracy Razz

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