West Werribee Sparks Yard and Geelong Electrifrication

 
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Planning is now well underway for a sparks yard near Werribee Racecourse for Metro Trains to consume. The yard will be created with several roads as storage around the network has reached capacity.  With this project comes the transfer from the track between Werribee and the junction to the RRL line.

Post the completion of the Melbourne Airport Rail Line (yes the planning is well underway) works on the yard and the completion of electrification to Geelong will be commenced.

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  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Planning is now well underway for a sparks yard near Werribee Racecourse for Metro Trains to consume. The yard will be created with several roads as storage around the network has reached capacity.  With this project comes the transfer from the track between Werribee and the junction to the RRL line.

Post the completion of the Melbourne Airport Rail Line (yes the planning is well underway) works on the yard and the completion of electrification to Geelong will be commenced.
x31

In the unlikely event that 'electrification to Geelong' will be commenced soon, it's even MORE unlikely that any of these trains will be travelling via Werribee.

Mike.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Planning is now well underway for a sparks yard near Werribee Racecourse for Metro Trains to consume. The yard will be created with several roads as storage around the network has reached capacity.  With this project comes the transfer from the track between Werribee and the junction to the RRL line.

Post the completion of the Melbourne Airport Rail Line (yes the planning is well underway) works on the yard and the completion of electrification to Geelong will be commenced.
x31
Just out of curiosity why do we need another "Geelong Electrification" Thread?
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

Hello All,

I am of the understanding that the Werribee Stabling Siding is intended to eventually cover trains needed for the Sunshine - Tarneit - Werribee / STW Electrification Loop , which would allow for a circuit working to Werribee either via Sunshine or via Newport, which would then allow for the existing Geelong trains to run express Sunshine to Little River .

The Tarniet corridor is the fastest growing residential area in Australia , and the current V/Line service is only an interim arrangement until the STW Electrification is up and running , and as the Siemens trains are maintained at Newport , this would allow for the Siemens sets to be concentrated on the Werribee services with additional Xtrapolis sets displacing the required Siemens sets.

At some future time, there is existing provision for the Tarneit line to be quadrupled and thereby completely separating the V/Line and Metro services.

Regards, Radioman.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
I have heard over the weekend there is quite a lot of land being allocated to the stabling project and wires will be extended to Geelong as a part of the project to complete STW.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Has been spoken about for a long time, without much action.

I will believe it when I see the government announcement, and it isn't an election year.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Recall reading on here last year or earlier the RRL lines were built to allow easy deployment of electrification. Geelong needs the electrification for service frequency and emissions reduction.

The Vlociry fleet are also very loud and noisy.

Probably get done at same time as Ballarat line works for electrification extensions.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Recall reading on here last year or earlier the RRL lines were built to allow easy deployment of electrification. Geelong needs the electrification for service frequency and emissions reduction.

The Vlociry fleet are also very loud and noisy.

Probably get done at same time as Ballarat line works for electrification extensions.
freightgate
It wouldn't surprise me if such electrification is 25 kV AC.  The question then is whether provision was made with clearances etc to have 25 KV right through to SCS via the RRL tracks?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Recall reading on here last year or earlier the RRL lines were built to allow easy deployment of electrification. Geelong needs the electrification for service frequency and emissions reduction.

The Vlociry fleet are also very loud and noisy.

Probably get done at same time as Ballarat line works for electrification extensions.
It wouldn't surprise me if such electrification is 25 kV AC.  The question then is whether provision was made with clearances etc to have 25 KV right through to SCS via the RRL tracks?
Carnot

If you were going to use the 25KV approach then now would be the time and change over Ballarat Line and Geelong (via RRL) to the new style of overhead.  Could metro trains still use dual voltage sets?
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
The Vlociry Shocked fleet are also very loud and noisy.
freightgate

HogWash !

BigShunter.
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Recall reading on here last year or earlier the RRL lines were built to allow easy deployment of electrification. Geelong needs the electrification for service frequency and emissions reduction.

The Vlociry fleet are also very loud and noisy.

Probably get done at same time as Ballarat line works for electrification extensions.
It wouldn't surprise me if such electrification is 25 kV AC.  The question then is whether provision was made with clearances etc to have 25 KV right through to SCS via the RRL tracks?

If you were going to use the 25KV approach then now would be the time and change over Ballarat Line and Geelong (via RRL) to the new style of overhead.  Could metro trains still use dual voltage sets?
bevans
Again, why has another Geelong/RRL Electrification Thread been started, this has recently been discussed in at least Two other threads within the last Six months.

p.s. I have spoken to a couple of people in the know in the industry and I have been told quote "who have you been talking to, as they must be on some good stuff".
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Again, why has another Geelong/RRL Electrification Thread been started, this has recently been discussed in at least Two other threads within the last Six months.

p.s. I have spoken to a couple of people in the know in the industry and I have been told quote "who have you been talking to, as they must be on some good stuff".
Jack Le Lievre

However the first part of the threads title is partly correct...except for the location and the time is ticking FAST to get this BIG project started and completed by a certain date.

Mike.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
The thread is primarily about the new stabling.

Newport stabling is current near capacity so with more trains coming more capacity is being required.  Werribee West will be near the junction of the RRL and makes it easier to run trains in either direction.

There is talk of trying to get more stabling at Newport.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
There Is land reserved for a electric train stabling yard just North of Wyndham Vale Station.

The land North of Ballan Road, West of Hobbs Road, the RRL on the Western boundary and the Werribee River to the North.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
There Is land reserved for a electric train stabling yard just North of Wyndham Vale Station.

The land North of Ballan Road, West of Hobbs Road, the RRL on the Western boundary and the Werribee River to the North.
Nightfire

Should we assume this stabling is for Metro trains and not for V/Line?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
There Is land reserved for a electric train stabling yard just North of Wyndham Vale Station.

The land North of Ballan Road, West of Hobbs Road, the RRL on the Western boundary and the Werribee River to the North.

Should we assume this stabling is for Metro trains and not for V/Line?
x31

No.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
There Is land reserved for a electric train stabling yard just North of Wyndham Vale Station.

The land North of Ballan Road, West of Hobbs Road, the RRL on the Western boundary and the Werribee River to the North.

Should we assume this stabling is for Metro trains and not for V/Line?
x31
Yes the stabling yard to the North of Wyndham Vale Station was for suburban trains (extended from Werribee)
There Is provision for extra platforms at Wyndham Vale Station,for suburban trains.

The existing stabling yard South of Wyndham Vale Station was to be used by V/Line, to run Wyndham Vale local services.

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