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Hearing that Tony Abbott could be offered a new job by Scott Morrison, as a special Envoy to the indigenous community, he is yet to formally accept the offer thoughOnly a platform for more infighting with the Minister (whoever that might be).
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Hearing that Tony Abbott could be offered a new job by Scott Morrison, as a special Envoy to the indigenous community, he is yet to formally accept the offer thoughI don't think Tones was the wreaker that he's being portrayed as in the media - I think Malcolm made a complete hash of being Prime Minister and the criticism from Tones (and others) was actually well deserved.
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I don't think Tones was the wreaker that he's being portrayed as in the media - I think Malcolm made a complete hash of being Prime Minister and the criticism from Tones (and others) was actually well deserved.You're entitled to your opinion, notwithstanding the fact that it's rubbish.
If its any consolation I believe your opinion is rubbish too, Valvie - so right back at 'ya!I don't think Tones was the wreaker that he's being portrayed as in the media - I think Malcolm made a complete hash of being Prime Minister and the criticism from Tones (and others) was actually well deserved.You're entitled to your opinion, notwithstanding the fact that it's rubbish.
The evidence is clearly against you. One compelling reason Turnbull was not as successful as hoped is summed up in three words; Abbott, Abetz, Andrews; the leaders of the loony right who deliberately undermined the PM. They were so pre-occupied with mutiny ( and revenge, in Abbott's case) that they couldn't even count the numbers properly; two challenges and they failed to get their man up in both, leaving their Party a wreck. Today's Newspolls would have Menzies doing 2000 rpm in his grave, and you want to blame Turnbull. Try taking a good dose of reality.
Once again, the inimitable Don ignores the undoubted evidence of deliberate destabilsation by Abbott and Co ( as also quoted quite correctly above by Radioman), and blames the victim. With the opposition within his own party, Turnbull was on a hiding to nothing.I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying that it was a side issue and the main event was Malcolm's incompetence and inability to get anything done. Turnbull had lusted after that job since the nineties and when he finally got it he botched it just as badly and the man that he impatiently replaced and consistently campaigned against behind the scenes for the two preceding years. What, you think Turnbull didn't deserve to be knifed in exactly the same manner that he knifed Tones? Please.
Don't let the facts get in the way, Don; it spoils your fun of selecting bits, and ignoring the rest. How many politicians, ex-pollies and commentators are you ignoring? Try doing a little research instead of writing tripe.
I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying that it was a side issue and the main event was Malcolm's incompetence and inability to get anything done.And that's where you're wrong. You can't tell the difference between cause and effect.
What, you think Turnbull didn't deserve to be knifed in exactly the same manner that he knifed Tones? Please.And just where did I say that? I've given reasons why he was knifed.
And that's where you're wrong. You can't tell the difference between cause and effect.Seriously? You really think that Tones was the sole cause of Turnbull's demise? You should tell him, I'm sure he'd be flatted. That's not what happened though. It was a contributory factor but there were lots of them.
And just where did I say that? I've given reasons why he was knifed.Well you keep prattling on about it like it was completely undeserved... all I'm saying is that I don't agree with that view.
Seriously? You really think that Tones was the sole cause of Turnbull's demise?Read what I wrote and stop talking nonsense.
Well you keep prattling on about it like it was completely undeserved..Again, just read, and leave your fevered imagination aside. I listed reasons why Turnbull was knifed. At no stage have I said it was undeserved.
Seriously? You really think that Tones was the sole cause of Turnbull's demise? You should tell him, I'm sure he'd be flatted. That's not what happened though. It was a contributory factor but there were lots of them.You're pulling back from your original assertion.
Read what I wrote and stop talking nonsense.Well that's exactly what you're implying.
Every political commentator with any credibly has laid this at the feet of Abbott and supporting agitators in two media organisations.No they didn't - I did watch Media Watch and Four Corners last night too you know. It was certainly a contributing factor and they had history that went back to 2009 when Abbott bumped Turnbull off the first time - but by far not the main event.
Hello All,Regardless of what people think of TA, he has a very long history dating before politics of volunteer working in Aboriginal communities including during his time as PM.
I was listening to an interview with Warren Mundine ( the former NSW ALP State President , not the boxer ) on ABC RN today ( Tuesday 28 August 2018 ) who said that Tony Abbott was actually very supportive of aboriginal communities , and Abbott volunteers about once a month in isolated aboriginal communities , so my previous post re Abbott and the aborigines was incorrect , and therefore the choice of Abbott as a Special Envoy may actually be a positive move.
Warren also said that the Turnbull was far less supportive than Abbott.
Regards, Radioman.
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