Leigh Creek Coal Train - The End Is Nigh

 
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Extend the PRR now! Lease a diesel Loco, and add a couple of carriages to start with...

Hawker to Parachilna, north to Beltana, Farina and to Marree. A heritage railway indeed.... Why not take it further to Oodnadatta? No wait... too late for that....

You know, there may even be a drop in the GSR bookings for the pretend Ghan.

Can this railway line be extended to Carrapateena and on to Olympic Dam/Prominent Hill? Their request was rejected back in 2015 for a spur to the Tarcoola-Darwin line. Not sure on what grounds.... it was only 100km of track....
ANR
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  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Extend the PRR now! Lease a diesel Loco, and add a couple of carriages to start with...

Hawker to Parachilna, north to Beltana, Farina and to Marree. A heritage railway indeed.... Why not take it further to Oodnadatta? No wait... too late for that....

You know, there may even be a drop in the GSR bookings for the pretend Ghan.
ANR
Maybe you should start at Quorn as the NG line to Hawker and beyond was lifted years ago

Can this railway line be extended to Carrapateena and on to Olympic Dam/Prominent Hill? Their request was rejected back in 2015 for a spur to the Tarcoola-Darwin line. Not sure on what grounds.... it was only 100km of track....
"ANR"


Only one problem Carrapateena, Olympic Dam and Prominent Hill are west of  Lake Torrens, the old NG and the SG alignments are East of Lake Torrens!
Carrapateena is 80kms to the West of Parachilna
Olympic Dam is 150kms West of Leigh Creek
Prominent Hill is 260kms West of Marree

Their (The owners of the Olympic Dam Mine) request for a spur line was NEVER rejected

The owners of the mine mothballed the planned expansion of the mine, including any rail connection
Olympic Dam mine has always processed their Copper ore and Uranium on site and hence there has never been a need to transport massive tonnage from the mine site to any port.

Prominent Hill mine transports their ore to the Tarcoola - Darwin rail line by road (about 80kms to the west of the mine) as from the start they determined road transport was far cheaper than a rail spur
  GrahamH Chief Commissioner

Location: At a terminal on the www.
An ASX news release 2/07/2018 by Archer Exploration Ltd, ASX:AXE, announced the sale of its subsidiaries Leigh Creek Magnesite Pty Ltd and CH Magnesite Pty Ltd conditional on due diligence to a private Australian company. These relate to magnesite deposits ~20Km north west of Leigh Creek.

Search here to find the .pdf. https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/announcements.do

Apparently any mining development has additional delay.
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Where Prominent Hill is 260kms West of Marree how does the mine output get to port now?
  NG Sulzers Deputy Commissioner

Location: Quorn
X31, the answer to question has been given by Pressman a couple of posts above.
  M636C Minister for Railways

On Thursday 28 June, I was in Port Augusta.

Not much was happening, but a Balco container train (4441) showed up on 4Trak on the Leigh Creek line.
It had the usual pair of locos GL107 and GL111.

It was stopped just north of a property called "Mundallio", near a level crossing on the line.

I decided to have a look at the train and drove up there.

There was a very large solar farm under construction (which I hadn't heard of before) using solar cells as used in roof systems, not like the solar thermal system south of Port Augusta.

When I got there, the train was loading empty containers that had been used to ship the solar cells and supporting equipment.

A large container lift vehicle was in use.
Several of the containers (presumably just unloaded) appeared to be diesel generator sets in 40 feet containers.

Clearly there is no continuing use for the rail line, but since only a dirt road links the station to Port Augusta, it was very useful for construction...

Peter
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
X31, the answer to question has been given by Pressman a couple of posts above.
NG Sulzers

Thanks.

Just read it.

The load out for this mine on the Darwin when comparing routes to the Leigh Creek line, it may be shorter to load at the Leigh Creek line and send to the port?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
X31, the answer to question has been given by Pressman a couple of posts above.

Thanks.

Just read it.

The load out for this mine on the Darwin when comparing routes to the Leigh Creek line, it may be shorter to load at the Leigh Creek line and send to the port?
x31

If you are still talking Prominent Hill then you need to find the number for Oz Minerals, give them a call and tell them they don't know what they are doing.

I'm sure they'll appreciate your informed input.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

A fine piece of advocacy there.

With friends like x31, the road freight industry has nothing to fear from any enemies.
  ShaneB Locomotive Driver

For those who want to see where the standard gauge line goes, I have created a Google Earth file of both the narrow gauge and the standard gauge available at https://www.railpage.com.au/downloads/1139/get

There sadly appears no real chance of revival. The Pichi Richi Railway (PRR) would be the best to transfer any sections however the standard gauge is nowhere near the PRR apart from the south-most section.  Perhaps keep the track in-situ from the PRR overpass to Deep Creek (approx 31km) or Wilkatana (41km) but I can't see a market more than an odd special.  Whilst the PRR goes through nice countryside, the standard gauge does not in the south. The PRR should do what they do best which is the narrow gauge and extend that but that also wont happen according to someone who has been part of PRR for a couple of decades.

As for the farmers, why would they want to lease the land, compacted overtime? Farmers might find the odd fence "falls over" to allow grazing but the amount of effort to regenerate dud land and move fences appears totally worthless owing to the huge spaces already available. This may be slightly different around small towns but I highly doubt it apart from an oddity here or there.

This would be a fantastic rail trail and marketed correctly, could take off.
  allan Chief Commissioner

As for the farmers, why would they want to lease the land, compacted overtime? Farmers might find the odd fence "falls over" to allow grazing but the amount of effort to regenerate dud land and move fences appears totally worthless owing to the huge spaces already available. This may be slightly different around small towns but I highly doubt it apart from an oddity here or there.

This would be a fantastic rail trail and marketed correctly, could take off.
ShaneB
No farmers, just graziers. No fences. No towns, small or otherwise. The sheep are all Dorpers, don't even make wool. Get their nutrition from sucking stones, cos there's little else there.

No future for this line.
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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