Qube Cement Workings

 
  Bethungra Train Controller

Seeking more information about the new Qube cement workings on the North East line and the source and destination of the loading please.  

Anyone else heard the cement work to Mildura on SG may also involve Qube?

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  bevans Site Admin
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Seeking more information about the new Qube cement workings on the North East line and the source and destination of the loading please.  

Anyone else heard the cement work to Mildura on SG may also involve Qube?
Bethungra
Has been discussed ad nauseam on another thread but I cannot find it ATM using the RP search function which seems to be playing up again.

Will keep looking

BG
  steven_h Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guys what have we here?

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/31213303828

followed by

https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/31213306188

A mixed wagon consist.
bevans

Metro spoil 'wagons' (containers? hoppers? boxes?) being transferred to NSW.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Seeking more information about the new Qube cement workings on the North East line and the source and destination of the loading please.  

Anyone else heard the cement work to Mildura on SG may also involve Qube?
Bethungra
The trains are loaded at Minto (near Campbelltown)
They run to the QUBE depot at Appleton Dock.

Since the cement is in containers, it could come from Maldon or Berrima.
I don't think it is exported, just unloaded at Appleton Dock.

The train is at Burradoo near Moss Vale southbound as I post this.

Peter
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Why are metro sending wagons north ?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Leaving Melbourne today in more bright sunshine

  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Does this train run daily @bevans ?
  2LaGrange Train Controller

Boral Berrima is the bulk cement plant that uses rail for both inbound raw materials and bulk cement out.
The plant at Maldon is mainly bagged product now.
Maldon is also used to unload aggregate and sand railed in that is then road hauled to metro Sydney Boral sites without rail facilities.

Cement Australia has developed a new cement plant adjacet to the Steel works at Port Kembla and this plant is most likely where the cement comes from that ends up on Qube train at Minto that then travels to Melbourne for that domestic market.
  7334 Chief Commissioner

Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
I'm happy to be corrected but my observations suggest that the southbound cement train *SM7 runs on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

As for the source of the product, I have seen the same type of tanktainers hauled on *SM7 on trucks coming out of the Maldon cement plant.  Whether they then go to Minto and wind up on the train is another matter.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Just departed Melbourne via Bunbury with Vl's on the point. https://www.railpage.com.au/railcams/bunbury-street/photo/32626245057
  NR61 Station Staff

CM class more like
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
CM class more like
NR61

Sorry, is that the usual loco combo for this train?
  7334 Chief Commissioner

Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
I do not know whether this represents a change in arangements or just a one off but today I saw what I took to be 6SM7 departing the Maldon cement works behind QBX003.

It departed about 13.40 pretty much on the heels of 5BM9 (CSR008 SCT010) as part of the usual procession which follows the midday Canberra Explorer and the Endeavour which runs fairly closely behind it (through Picton 12.57 and 13.21).

While it does not prove that the cement on the *SM7 service comes from Maldon the coming and going from the Maldon works of QUBE trucks laden with the type of tanktainer used for on rail cement traffic is a common sight.  Fairly obviously the plant has the capability to deal with bulk shipments of product but whether it has the capability to load the tanktainers in situ on the train or unload them for filling and then reload them is another question.

Anybody out there in the know?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
BG cement between Melbourne (not sure the loading point but probably North Dynon) and Dandenong has commenced.  See https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2154057.htm#2154057

Are we to assume this loading is coming off the train from NSW or is it local pickup?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
200,000 tonnes in 18,000 'heavy vehicles' equates to 11.1 tonnes gross / vehicle.
Any thoughts anyone?
(Where have I gone wrong or have I miscalculated (ignored) the spin factor?)
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
is Qube still running the North East Cement train?
  Fatty Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
is Qube still running the North East Cement train?
bevans
Yes.
  M636C Minister for Railways

200,000 tonnes in 18,000 'heavy vehicles' equates to 11.1 tonnes gross / vehicle.
Any thoughts anyone?
(Where have I gone wrong or have I miscalculated (ignored) the spin factor?)
YM-Mundrabilla
Perhaps they are counting empty truck movements, 9000 loaded and 9000 empty, which would give 22.2 tonnes per loaded vehicle....

Peter
  brownhillboy Train Controller

is Qube still running the North East Cement train?
Yes.
Fatty
This train may get a lot more loading when the complicated environmental issues have been sorted out at the Boral plant at Berrima.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Does the somerton terminal get any use these days for cement?
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Does the somerton terminal get any use these days for cement?
bevans
Not by rail, unsure about road.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Does the somerton terminal get any use these days for cement?
Not by rail, unsure about road.
speedemon08
Cement Is no longer manufactured In Waurn Ponds ?

Cement for Victoria's building Industry comes from Tasmania (Railton via Devonport) and NSW
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
Cement Is no longer manufactured In Waurn Ponds ?

Cement for Victoria's building Industry comes from Tasmania (Railton via Devonport) and NSW
Nightfire
Boral also imports Cement product from Indonesia, India and China. There is a small amount that comes out of Waurn Ponds via road.

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