2018 State Election / Transport

 
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Moreover...

What about our forgotten friends on the Bendigo/Seymour/Shepparton lines...and the congestion and slow operation they endure from City to/from Sunbury/Craigieburn etc.

Mike.
The Vinelander
Are you hinting at 2 more announcements to follow Mike, one for Gippy and one for Northern lines?

BG

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  John.Z Assistant Commissioner

Geelong and Ballarat will always be done first (votes + population).

However Bendigo and Seymour need to be through routed via Airport

And Gippsland/Western Port Services need a track pair between Dandenong and the City (including taking freight off the frankston line).
  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
Geelong and Ballarat will always be done first (votes + population).

However Bendigo and Seymour need to be through routed via Airport

And Gippsland/Western Port Services need a track pair between Dandenong and the City (including taking freight off the frankston line).
John.Z

The Geelong and Ballarat Lines make it easier to do the new track pairs as there appears to be capacity and the lines would in the case of Ballarat come from the Deer park RFR Junction. Would they only build double new tracks as far as Bacchus Marsh or only to Melton?

With the amount of Ballarat Line traffic coming I would expect this would need to be Bacchus Marsh and electrification and new EMU rolling stock as previous discussed a better option.
  Lockie91 Chief Train Controller

@x31

I agree that BM is the gold plated option, however their is a large river in the governments way. If sparking was to go to BM it woould require two new track pairs over Werribee River. $1 Billion just for that.  On top of the additional track pair between Melton and Sunshine. Serval stations would need to be rebuilt of modified to accommodate the additional track pair.

RRL is much easier as when this was built two track pairs was always the planned outcome.

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All we have so far is a chunk of money for a business case. No money for any construction work. If Dans wants his two high speed rail corridors then we are talking about rebuilding the track from the ground up including modifications to gradients and curves to achieve the maximum speed. The removal of almost every level crossing. New signalling. New stablling and a new fleet. Billions and Billions
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Moreover...

What about our forgotten friends on the Bendigo/Seymour/Shepparton lines...and the congestion and slow operation they endure from City to/from Sunbury/Craigieburn etc.

Mike.
Are you hinting at 2 more announcements to follow Mike, one for Gippy and one for Northern lines?

BG
BrentonGolding

Actually no...however the campaign proper doesn't actually start for another two weeks. So if the lines I mention get NO upgrades apart from what has already been announced, the pax on those services would have some justification in thinking they are travelling on the lines that are the poor relation.

Mike.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

So frustrating to see Liberal politicians banging on about this afternoon’s signal failures as evidence that their plan is needed, when it will do absolutely nothing to combat these situations and will more likely than not make them worse.

Plenty of people will believe it, though, and who can blame them when neither party appears able to grasp the basic needs of the transport network?

What frightens me is that I can easily spot disinformation with regard to this sort of thing; I can’t have the same confidence in my knowledge of other matters. Skepticism pays.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

-Wyndham Vale connection (I think that's been merged into the SRL project)
True Believers

Yep looks like this confirms this theory

https://www.facebook.com/DanielAndrewsMP/videos/1912954475451472/

And yes capacity, frequency are greatly more important than just speed.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
' ........... when neither party appears able to grasp the basic needs of the transport network?'

Oh how true.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

' ........... when neither party appears able to grasp the basic needs of the transport network?'

Oh how true.
YM-Mundrabilla
Well yeah very doubtful either party do know the basic needs of the transport network.

At the least the current party, has some kinda vision and ongoing pipeline of projects that actually make sense. Yeah the current party ain't perfect, but they are on the right track. Get the pun. TRACK. moving on... Anyways investment of heavy rail is the center of attention. Nothing for buses, improving tram network, or other modes. Roads are getting a bucket load of cash.

It ain't perfect, but looking back in the early 2000s, I think there has been a dramatic shift into putting huge dollars back into the Melbourne public transport system when it blew up in patronage in the 2008-2010. And seeing this progress, like as in seeing the contruction and the start of these transformative projects always gives me hope that more can be done to shift more towards other modes not just roads. But we will just wait and see what happens till now and towards the election who convinces the voters which party is delivering a better transport network into the future.
  slowcoach Junior Train Controller

Below is an outlined "Victorian Rail Plan" put together by Transport for Victoria (TfV), according to tonight's 9News report:
(1)
- Melbourne Metro 1: South Kensington to South Yarra (Open circa 2025)
- Cranbourne line duplication: From Dandenong to Cranbourne
- Somerton link: Connecting Upfield Line to Craigieburn and Seymour Lines at Roxburgh Park
- Hurstbridge Line upgrade Stage 2: Duplication between Greensborough and Eltham

Stage 3
- Melbourne Airport Rail Link: Via a new rail tunnel from Southern Cross to Sunshine
- City Loop Reconfiguration: Frankston Line to run via Parliament, Melbourne Central, Flagstaff and West Melbourne to connect with the Craigieburn Line
- Burnley Junction Rationalisation: Glen Waverley Line to run via Flinders Street and Southern Cross to connect with the Upfield Line
- Melton Electrification: Quadruplication between Sunshine and Melton
- Wyndham Vale Electrification: Quadruplication between Sunshine and Wyndham Vale
- Waurn Ponds duplication: Between South Geelong and Waurn Ponds
- Clyde Extension: Cranbourne line extended to Clyde
- Baxter Electrification: Frankston Line extended to Baxter
- Mooroolbark to Lilydale Duplication

Stage 4
- Melbourne Metro 2 West: New rail tunnel from Newport to Parkville via Fishermans Bend and Southern Cross
- Laverton and Williamstown Line Upgrade
- Wyndham Vale to Black Forest Road extension: Connects Wyndham Vale line to Werribee
- Sunshine to Watergardens Quadruplication
- Bendigo Track Upgrade
- Shepparton Line Upgrade Stage 2

Stage 5
- Melbourne Metro 2 East: New rail tunnel from Parkville to Clifton Hill via Carlton and Fitzroy
- Wollert Extension: Branch line off Mernda Line from Lalor
- Geelong Electrification
- Regional Rail Link Additional Stations
- Barwon South West Line Intercity Upgrade
- Gippsland Line Intercity Upgrade
- Loddon Mallee Intercity Upgrade

Stage 6
- New track pair (Sextuplication): Between South Yarra Portal and Caufield
- New track pair : Between Caufield and Huntingdale via Chadstone
- Rowville Extension: Branching off Huntingdale via Monash Uni
- Track Quadruplication: Between Huntingdale and Dandenong
- Track Quadruplication: Between Deer Park and Melton
- Track Duplication: Between Bacchus Marsh and Ballarat
- New Track Pair: Between Flinders Street and Southern Cross

Notice the Suburban Rail Loop isn't included in this plan.
  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

Pretty good plan to me. Doubt that everything will be realised.