50 level crossings to be removed

 
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Madden Grove, Burnley on the Glen Waverley line may be worth a look, however the Burnley sidings may complicate matters. An angled road-over-rail (or road-under-rail if you must) crossing would allow the sidings to be extended to accommodate 3 additional X’Trapolis-length trains.

Sponsored advertisement

  stooge spark Chief Train Controller

Location: My House
Assuming that every line mentioned in the list doesnt have any other crossings expected to be removed, I suspect that the additional crossings removed will likely be:
Glenferrie road Kooyong
Tooronga road Glen Iris
Greens Road Dandenong south
South road Brighton
Glen Eira road Ripponlea
Ruthven srreet McLeod
Marshall street Ivanhoe
  ptvcommuter Train Controller

Marshall St would be a politically motivated choice if chosen. Same with Ruthven St and also Greens Rd. Would say that Webster St, Dandenong, Puckle St, Moonee Ponds and Macauley Rd, Kensington are better candidates for removal.

The Sandringham Line LX, South Rd and Glen Eira have merit. South Rd can be abysmal in peak hour. The layout of Brighton Beach as a curved platform would be interesting if it was removed. You would also have to work out what to do with sidings, etc. Straightening up that corridor would improve travel times but the crossing is close to the beach (assuming a high water table) and not sure the NIMBYS down there would deal with elevated rail. As for Glen Eira Rd in Ripponlea it has a fair bit of traffic too, I think there are just better candidates for removal. Would say elevated rail would work here as the line is elevated at Balaclava meaning that it doesn’t become roller coaster.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner
  John.Z Assistant Commissioner

potatoinmymouth
Interesting.

With this Announcement we have:

Pakenham Line:
4 out of 12 committed to be removed

Cranbourne Line:
4 out of 5 (if you count South Gippsland highway) committed to be removed

Sunbury Line:
1 out of 5 committed to be removed

So at most, 13 Level Crossings will remain on the 2026 Sunbury-Pakenham/Cranbourne line. Might be the first end to end "metro" line on the network, if not for the VLine arrangement at both ends of the line.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
I understand that Evans Road level crossing (Lyndhurst) Is blocked to through traffic ?
  stooge spark Chief Train Controller

Location: My House
That would be correct, although it still has working lights and bells IIRC.
  toholio Station Master

I understand that Evans Road level crossing (Lyndhurst) Is blocked to through traffic ?
Nightfire
Correct. It has been closed for at least six years. Not sure of the exact duration.

I believe there was a vague plan to reopen the level crossing once the duplication of Hallam Road, or more specifically the signalisation of the Hallam Road and South Gippsland Highway intersection, was completed. Always seemed like that wouldn't actually happen.

Evans Road being reopened will also take a lot of pressure off people wanting an underpass at Aylmer Road in Lynbrook.
  slowcoach Junior Train Controller

Here are the next 25 level crossings on the hit list after the first 50 are removed. Note: Only 22 of the 25 have been announced so far.
Frankston Line
- Glenhuntly Rd, Glenhuntly
- Neerim Rd, Glenhuntly
- Argyle Ave, Chelsea
- Chelsea Rd, Chelsea
- Swanpool Ave, Chelsea

Belgrave/Lilydale Line
- Union Rd, Surrey Hills
- Mont Albert Rd, Mont Albert

Upfield Line
- Munro St, Coburg
- Reynard St, Coburg

Mernda Line
- Oakover Rd, Preston
- Cramer St, Preston
- Muarry Rd, Preston

Sunbury Line
- Gap Rd / Station St, Sunbury

Werribee Line
- Old Geelong Rd, Hoppers Crossing

Pakenham Line
- Cardinia Rd, Pakenham
- McGregor Rd, Pakeham
- Main St, Pakenham
- Racecourse Rd, Pakenham

Cranbourne Line (Update)
- Webster St, Dandenong
- Greens Rd, Dandenong South
- Evans Rd, Lyndhurst
- Camms Rd, Cranbourne
(Possibly South Gippsland Hwy, Cranbourne as provision for Clyde extension)
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Number 23, 24 and 25 would have to be the 3 on the Ballarat line between Sunshine and Deer Park West.
  ptvcommuter Train Controller

You'd think so but I reckon those three are being done with the High Speed Rail to Geelong/Ballarat, electrification to Melton/Wyndham Vale project.

Because this project is politicised, every crossing should go but the Cranbourne Line crossings have little priority over ones such as Tooronga Rd and Macauley Rd.

Expecting Marshall St to be next as Ivanhoe is a marginal seat
  ptvcommuter Train Controller

Also is this batch of removals on the Cranbourne line part of the 25, or is it part of the Cranbourne Line duplication project which would explain the high cost ?
  slowcoach Junior Train Controller

Also is this batch of removals on the Cranbourne line part of the 25, or is it part of the Cranbourne Line duplication project which would explain the high cost ?
ptvcommuter
I think it's both as mentioned in the press release and on Daniel Andrews' Facebook page.
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
I understand that Evans Road level crossing (Lyndhurst) Is blocked to through traffic ?
Correct. It has been closed for at least six years. Not sure of the exact duration.

I believe there was a vague plan to reopen the level crossing once the duplication of Hallam Road, or more specifically the signalisation of the Hallam Road and South Gippsland Highway intersection, was completed. Always seemed like that wouldn't actually happen.

Evans Road being reopened will also take a lot of pressure off people wanting an underpass at Aylmer Road in Lynbrook.
toholio
I would hope that re-open Evans Rd does include a major road improvement, and is in part why the cost is so high.
Closure at the moment is a traffic management measure. The road would be a rat-run nightmare if opened.

As for Aylmer rd, connecting that across the rail would be a disaster.
Creates a rat-run through residential streets from Sth Gipp Hwy to Western Port Hwy.

In both cases, an example of the problems that property developers create with a hodge podge of estates with absolutely no concern for how major road connections will work. The council should be ashamed - or was it another VCAT rubbish over-ride.

cheers
John
  toholio Station Master


As for Aylmer rd, connecting that across the rail would be a disaster.
justarider


I very much agree. Apart from the rat-run it would also ruin the good pedestrian and school kid friendly links running through the entire area.


In both cases, an example of the problems that property developers create with a hodge podge of estates with absolutely no concern for how major road connections will work. The council should be ashamed - or was it another VCAT rubbish over-ride.
justarider


Aylmer Road was only ever meant to have a temporary at grade crossing until Glasscocks Road was completed.

If you look at a map you'll be able to see that there's a giant chunk of Glasscocks missing between Lyndhurst and Cranbourne North. Including down the side of the golf course. A lot of that distance is outside where Lyndhurst and Lynbrook were subdivided and would rightly be the responsibility of council and VicRoads.

The developer (well, council/VicRoads) correctly left space to one day complete Glasscocks and tidy the whole mess up. No doubt they'll get right on that and it will be built before serious traffic problems develop in the area...

Hopefully they have a sensible plan for the completion of Glasscocks when removing the Evans Road crossing.
  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

Another updated version of the list of Melbourne level crossings.

Werribee/Williamstown (15),(2):

Anderson/Schild St (Seddon)

Hudsons Rd (Spotswood)

Williamstown (2):

Ferguson St (Williamstown)*

Giffard St (Williamstown)

Werribee (11):

Champion Rd (Williamstown North)

Maddox Rd (Williamstown North)

Civic Pde (Seaholme) [A]

Millers Rd (Seaholme) [A]

Pier St (Altona) [A]

Grieve Pde (Altona) [A]

Maidstone St (Altona) [A]

Maidstone St (Altona)

Aviation Rd (Laverton)*

Old Geelong Rd (Hoppers Crossing)**

Cherry St (Werribee)*

Sunbury (5):

Calder Park Dr (Hillside)

Holden Rd (Plumpton)

Old Calder HWY (Diggers Rest)

Watsons Rd (Sunbury)

Gap Rd (Sunbury)**

Cragieburn/Flemington Racecourse (7),(1):

Macaulay Rd (Kensington)

Flemington Racecourse (1):

Ascot Vale Rd (Newmarket)

Cragieburn (5):

Puckle St (Moonee Ponds)

Park St (Essendon)

Gaffney St (Pascoe Vale)

Devon Rd (Oak Park)

Glenroy Rd (Glenroy)*

Upfield (21):

Arden St (North Melbourne)

Macaulay Rd (North Melbourne)

Poplar Rd (Parkville)

Park St (Parkville)

Brunswick Rd (Brunswick)

Union St (Brunswick)

Dawson St (Brunswick)

Albert Rd (Brunswick)

Victoria St (Brunswick)

Hope St (Brunswick)

Albion St (Anstey)

Moreland Rd (Moreland)*

Reynard St (Coburg)**

Munro St (Coburg)**

Bell St (Coburg)*

O’Hea St (Coburg)

Gaffney St (Coburg North)

Bakers Rd (Coburg North)

Boundary Rd (Fawkner)

Box Forest Rd (Fawkner)

Barry Rd (Dallas)

Mernda/Hurstbridge(32),(1):

Ramsden St (Clifton Hill)

Mernda (17):

Charles St (Fitzroy North)

Arthurton Rd (Northcote)

Beavers Rd (Northcote)

Woolton Av (Thornbury)

Normanby Av (Thornbury)

Hutton St (Thornbury)

Oakover Rd (Preston)**

Bell St (Preston)*

Cramer St (Preston)**

Murray Rd (Preston)**

Regent St (Regent)

High St (Reservoir)*

Keon Pde (Thomastown)

Station St (Thomastown)

Manns Crossing (Thomastown)

Station St (Lalor)

Childs Rd (Epping)

Hurstbridge (14):

Westgarth St (Westgarth)

Victoria Rd (Westgarth)

Station St (Fairfield)

Yarralea St (Alphington)

Marshall St (Ivanhoe)

Ruthven St (Macleod West)

Diamond St (Eltham)

Railway Rd (Eltham)

Wattletree Rd (Eltham North)

Allendale Rd (Eltham)

Hurstbridge Rd (Diamond Creek)

Wilson Rd (Wattle Glen)

Mary Pl (Wattle Glen)

Unknown local Rd (Hurstbridge)

Lilydale/Belgrave (10),(2):

Union Rd (Surrey Hills)**

Mont Albert Rd (Mont Albert)**

Lilydale (5):

Dublin Rd (Ringwood East)

Coolstore Rd (Croydon)

Manchester Rd (Mooroolbark)*

Melba Av (Lilydale)

Maroondah HWY (Lilydale)*

Belgrave (3):

Bedford Rd (Ringwood)

Alpine St (Ferntree Gully)

Railway Av (Upper Ferntree Gully)

Alamein (2):

Prospect Hill Rd (Camberwell)

Riversdale Rd (Camberwell) [TS]

Glen Waverley (5):

Madden Gv (Burnley)

Glenferrie Rd (Kooyong) [TS]

Toorak Rd (Kooyong)*

Tooronga Rd (Malvern)

High St (Glen Iris)

Pakenham/Cranbourne (15),(1):

Webster St (Dandenong)**

Pakenham (11):

Sth Gippsland HWY (Dandenong South)*

Progress St (Eummerring)

Hallam Rd (Hallam)*

Webb St (Narre Warren)

Clyde Rd (Berwick)*

Station St (Beaconsfield)

Brunt Rd (Beaconsfield)

Station St (Officer)

Cardinia Rd (Pakenham)**

McGregor Rd (Pakenham)**

Main St (Pakenham)**

Cranbourne (3):

Greens Rd (Dandenong South)**

Evans Rd (Lyndhurst)**

Camms Rd (Cranbourne)**

Frankston (25):

Neerim Rd (Caulfield East)**

Glen Huntly Rd (Glen Huntly) [TS]**

Wickham Rd (Highett) [RA]

Highett Rd (Highett)

Park Rd (Cheltenham)*

Charman Rd (Cheltenham)*

LaTrobe St (Mentone)

Balcombe Rd (Mentone)*

Warrigal Rd (Parkdale)

Parkers Rd (Parkdale)

McDonald St (Mordialloc)

Bear St (Mordialloc)

Station St (Aspendale)

Unknown Rd (Aspendale)

Lochiel Av (Edithvale)

Edithvale Rd (Edithvale)*

Swanpool Ave (Chelsea)**

Chelsea Rd (Chelsea)**

Argyle Av (Chelsea)**

Bondi Rd/Station St (Bonbeach)*

Mascot Av (Bonbeach) (According to LXRA)*

Station St (Carrum)*

Eel Race Rd (Carrum)*

Armstrongs Rd (Seaford)

Station St (Seaford)

Stony Point (20):

Clarendon St (Frankston)

Moorooduc HWY/McMahons Rd (Frankston)

Hillcrest Rd (Frankston)

Robinsons Rd (Langwarrin South)

Golf Links Rd (Langwarrin South)

Baxter-Tooradin Rd (Baxter)

Frankston-Flinders Rd (Somerville)

Eramosa Rd West (Somerville)

Park La (Somerville)

Bungower Rd (Somerville)

Mornington-Tyabb Rd (Tyabb)

Frankston-Flinders Rd (Hastings)

Hodgins Rd (Hastings)

Coolstore Rd (Hastings)

High St (Hastings)

Reid Pde (Hastings)

Stony Point Rd (Bittern)

Urquhart Cr (Bittern)

Disney St (Mooradoo)

Park Rd (Crib Point)

Sandringham (11):

Greville St (Prahran)

Union St (Windsor)

Glen Eira Rd (Ripponlea)

Bay St (Brighton)

Church St (Brighton)

Dendy St/New St (Brighton) [RA]

South Rd (Brighton)

New St (Brighton)

Hampton St (Hampton)

Linacre Rd (Hampton)

Abbott St (Sandringham)

Other (2):

Werribee St (Werribee)*

Racecourse Rd (Pakenham)**

Route 109, Port Melbourne (3): (thank you to kitchgp)

Ingles Street (North Port)

Bridge Street (North Port)

Beach Street (Beacon Cove)



Key:

*Going to be removed by the Level Crossing Removal Authority (First 50 announced)

**Going to be removed by the Level Crossing Removal Authority (Second '25' announced)

[A] Altona Loop

[TS] Tram Square

[RA] Roundabout

(x),(y) Total amount for group, Total amount for shared part of line.

Totals: (covered in list): 173

Within Metro Trains Melbourne passenger network (MTM): 169

All excluding Stony Point : 150

All within metro electrified area: 149

To be removed (total): 48

To be removed (1st 50): 23

To be removed (2nd 25): 25 (not all shown on list)

With Roundabouts: 2

With tram squares: 3

Sources:
  • Melway 2014
  • Google maps
  • Level Crossing Removal Authority (LXRA)

Disclaimer: Some of the information may be outdated. This post may also miss level crossings unintentionally, and/or get the location of level crossings or road names incorrect. Please let me know about spelling, grammar, punctuation, mistakes, etc. and I will update. Local knowledge will be appreciated.

I have grouped the Frankston and Stony Point lines separately because they are quite different.
  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

I can see Labor just continuing to roll on these removals until they lose power, whether it be in this election, 2022 or 2026. With 10 crossings left following today's promise on the Sunbury-Pakenham/Cranbourne corridor, I wouldn't be surprised if they remove all of them within a short time of the opening of the Metro tunnel. On this list however, I'm hoping that they will do the Macaulay Rd and Puckle St crossings, because they are appalling.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

I can see Labor just continuing to roll on these removals until they lose power, whether it be in this election, 2022 or 2026. With 10 crossings left following today's promise on the Sunbury-Pakenham/Cranbourne corridor, I wouldn't be surprised if they remove all of them within a short time of the opening of the Metro tunnel. On this list however, I'm hoping that they will do the Macaulay Rd and Puckle St crossings, because they are appalling.
reubstar6

Interesting you should mention this. I’ve been thinking the last couple of weeks that if Labor hang onto government this time around, and get a stable Labor federal government next year, and the property market declines steadily rather than collapsing, they will probably win 2022 in a landslide. Some of their big set pieces will fall into place, like 50 level crossings and the West Gate Tunnel, the SRL will be underway, the Metro Tunnel will be taking shape, shovels will be in the ground for the airport link...

Of course, this is not the only possibility, but it does seem the most likely one on the available facts.
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
I see In the new Melway edition that a proposed new major North - South Road at Officer, linking Officer South Road to the Princes Highway, may just supersede the Station Street level crossing, also given that there Is a new road under rail underpass near by.
  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
Looking at the lists compiled above (thanks gents) and the way that a particular line is added to those lists the Craigieburn and Hurstbridge haven't had any additions. If my theory stands then we'll see some on one or other of those lines.
Oh, and if the Marshall St Ivanhoe crossing (#98 on the list that Daniel Bowen dug up from 2008) goes before Station St Fairfield (#24) then some of these are definitely being decided for purely political reasons. Ruthven St is even lower, (although the crossing made it easier for me to cross that road on the way to and from school many moons ago) and with the way it is now harder to get to that crossing compared to when I was crossing it, it makes less sense.
I'm going to suggest the Craigieburn or those between Sunshine and the RRL (as suggested earlier) will get the remaining ones.

Neil
  Adogs Chief Train Controller

I can see Labor just continuing to roll on these removals until they lose power, whether it be in this election, 2022 or 2026. With 10 crossings left following today's promise on the Sunbury-Pakenham/Cranbourne corridor, I wouldn't be surprised if they remove all of them within a short time of the opening of the Metro tunnel. On this list however, I'm hoping that they will do the Macaulay Rd and Puckle St crossings, because they are appalling.
reubstar6

If the Libs don't win this year, they probably won't win in 2022.  At the moment, the electoral map is heavily weighted in the Liberals' favour, with a number of safe Liberal-voting seats in the eastern suburbs way under quota, and a number of Labor seats in the west way over.  Hence the very real possibility of the Andrews govt increasing its 2PP score to 54-46 at this election, but not actually winning any new seats.

The next redistribution in 2020 will fix this, probably adding 2 safe Labor seats to the map, and merging at least 2 safe Liberal seats.  So 2022 will be a bigger hill for the Libs to climb.

All that said - Macaulay is one of the least likely crossings to get separated, just because of messy engineering.
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
Macaulay Rd - not a problem.

Just contract the job to Transurban, they hyjacked the airspace so will have no problem solving. Just suspend the rail line underneath citylink.

cherrs
John
  slowcoach Junior Train Controller

I read the media release so I'll update the list with the preferred method.

https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/only-labor-will-remove-75-dangerous-and-congested-level-crossings-by-2025/

75 level crossings removed by 2025, finished at the same time as the metro tunnel.

Frankston Line
- Glenhuntly Rd, Glenhuntly (rail under)
- Neerim Rd, Glenhuntly (rail under)

- Argyle Ave, Chelsea (rail under)
- Chelsea Rd, Chelsea (rail under)
- Swanpool Ave, Chelsea (rail under)

Will be done at same time as the one at Bonbeach and Edithvale as rail under solutions.
Removing all 5 together as one package of works. Clever.

Belgrave/Lilydale Line
- Union Rd, Surrey Hills (rail under)
- Mont Albert Rd, Mont Albert (rail under)

Upfield Line
- Munro St, Coburg (rail over)
- Reynard St, Coburg (rail over)

Will be done at same time as Moreland road and Bell street (Upfield line) as one elevated structure
Removing all 4 together as one package of works. Very clever.

Mernda Line
- Oakover Rd, Preston (rail over)
- Cramer St, Preston (rail over)
- Murray Rd, Preston (rail over)

Will be done at same time as Bell street (Mernda line) as one elevated structure
Removing all 4 together as one package of works. Also very clever.

Sunbury Line
- Gap Rd / Station St, Sunbury (road under)

Werribee Line
Old Geelong Rd, Hoppers Crossing (road over)

Hope they can co-ordinate this one with the other 2 sites at Werribee.
Pakenham Line
- Cardinia Rd, Pakenham (Road over)
- Mcgregor Rd, Pakenham (Rail over)
- Main St, Pakenham (Rail over)
- Racecourse Rd, Pakenham (Rail over)
+ 3rd platform for new Pakenham station & demolishing adjacent sidings
slowcoach
Cranbourne Line
- Webster St, Dandenong (Road under)
- Greens Rd, Dandenong South (Rail over)
- Evans Rd, Lyndhurst (Road over)
- Camms Rd, Cranbourne (Road over)
+ Full duplication of the Cranbourne branch line
  John.Z Assistant Commissioner

Macaulay Rd - not a problem.

Just contract the job to Transurban, they hyjacked the airspace so will have no problem solving. Just suspend the rail line underneath citylink.

cherrs
John
justarider
Think that one will be a

Raise road as high as possible within height limits and
Lower rail as much as necessary (but hopefully not too much),

Otherwise could raise the rail right up, and hand the gantries off of Citylink in the middle gap
  reubstar6 Chief Train Controller

I meant Macaulay Rd, Craigieburn line, but both should go. If the Craigieburn line crossing was to go, would it be necessary to leave provision for two independent Racecourse lines? I know there were calls to provide a permanent service recently.

Sponsored advertisement

Display from: