Australian Crcket team to face India,

 
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

You seem to have just suggested that Finch is an option for selection as a specialist vice-captain!

Alex Carey would be a better selection for the roles of an aggressive #6 batsman and vice-captain than Finch. In addition to being the current ODI/T20I vice-captain, he can also keep wickets and bat.

He's a better wicketkeeper than Paine, and his batting is getting better every season.

He is not only the long term occupant of Paine's position in the team, but also probably the best option for Paine's replacement as captain.

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  djf01 Chief Commissioner

You seem to have just suggested that Finch is an option for selection as a specialist vice-captain!
justapassenger

Yep!  A Victorian George Bailey Smile.  I'm really just saying he's a better option than Warner in that regard (not saying much I know Smile).


Alex Carey would be a better selection for the roles of an aggressive #6 batsman and vice-captain than Finch. In addition to being the current ODI/T20I vice-captain, he can also keep wickets and bat.
justapassenger

I haven't seen Carey play, so I'll take your word for his glovework.  But a captain who's never played test cricket?

P Neville ahead of Carey *if* Captaincy comes into it - which it shouldn't - but in this team it needs to.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Carey is the #1 keeper at the moment. Seccombe and Hartley rate him very highly.

The sooner Carey is brought in as the #6 bat, the sooner he can start getting Test experience before Paine retires.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Carey is the #1 keeper at the moment.
justapassenger

So everyone says.  I remember the same buzz about Matt Wade. Just being cautious here, as his FC record with the stick is only 1500 @26.  Hardly screaming Aussie #6.
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
Not much joy for the Australians on day 1 of the fourth test, India finished it on 4/303, Pujara knocking up his 3rd century of the series! he now has over 450 series runs, and still going, he could get over 500 runs for the 4 tests by the time he gets out, that's Bradman-esque!!! the not out batsmen are Vihari on 39, and Pujara on 130

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  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Yep.  

Another pitch where winning the toss is worth 6 wickets/200 runs.  A bit of extra grass self on this one too, but it will still deteriorate, and if anything this adds to the value of first innings runs.

The SCG is traditionally the slowest pitch in the country (bar the old Adelaide Oval), now it's the fastest (bar the GABBA) - without getting any quicker.  It's certainly the best batting pitch we've produced, but it's still not quite as good a batting deck as the SCG usually is.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Any idea why Koli is being boo'd by the Sydney crowd?

Australia doesn't;t appear to be very confident with the ball during the series.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Any idea why Koli is being boo'd by the Sydney crowd?

Australia doesn't;t appear to be very confident with the ball during the series.
bevans
I was very surprised by that, actually.

OTOH, I have decided I now like Rishabh Pant after his babysitting effort!
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Most of the idiots booing Kohli probably don't know why. One dill started and the rest followed. There is no better exhibition of the ugly Australian herd mentality than a sporting crowd.
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
Any idea why Koli is being boo'd by the Sydney crowd?

Australia doesn't;t appear to be very confident with the ball during the series.
bevans
Because no one likes him as a bloke!
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
India finished a mammoth innings at 7/622 declared, Pujara was out on 193, and has amassed well over 500 runs for this 4 test series!! quite staggering really!! the little wicketkeeper Pant also chimed in, with 159 not out off just 189 balls, Aussies 0/24 at stumps, with Khawaja having a life, he got dropped on 0 by Pant. India have the series in the bag here, either way!!

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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

OTOH, I have decided I now like Rishabh Pant after his babysitting effort!
574M
His welcoming of the special guest (Paine) at the MCG match was good too. The witty banter between him and Paine has been quite entertaining, probably in a way that MS Dhoni wouldn't have been capable of getting into.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
His welcoming of the special guest (Paine) at the MCG match was good too. The witty banter between him and Paine has been quite entertaining, probably in a way that MS Dhoni wouldn't have been capable of getting into.
"justapassenger"
I don't think Matthew Wade would have been any good at it either.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

I don't think Matthew Wade would have been any good at it either.
Valvegear

More to the point, Paine can catch too Smile
  LowndesJ515 #TeamRog

Location: Not in Victoria
His welcoming of the special guest (Paine) at the MCG match was good too. The witty banter between him and Paine has been quite entertaining, probably in a way that MS Dhoni wouldn't have been capable of getting into.
I don't think Matthew Wade would have been any good at it either.
Valvegear
NICE GARRY!

Shane Warne told of an interesting stat at the end of the first day. The Australian seam bowlers have bowled 7.3% of balls this summer at the stumps. I cant remember exactly how many balls the seamers have bowled this summer but it was up around 2700. Not anywhere near enough balls at the stumps. Methinks they are missing the ball lookerafterer in Warner roughing up one side...
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
We are now seeing some traction in the batting changes.

Will Pucovski has now been called into the test side.  Nice!
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
More to the point, both Marsh brothers have been dropped, and about time too.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Will Pucovski has now been called into the test side.  Nice!
Smells a lot like the Hobart shakeout though.  

W Pski, picked too soon, and will be dropped too soon.  Most of these "new" players have no/limited experience in England, are unlikely to prepare properly, and will probably produce underwhelming results, and be dropped part way through the series, replaced by Marsh brothers based on white ball form Smile
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
Will Pucovski has now been called into the test side.  Nice!
Smells a lot like the Hobart shakeout though.  

W Pski, picked too soon, and will be dropped too soon.  Most of these "new" players have no/limited experience in England, are unlikely to prepare properly, and will probably produce underwhelming results, and be dropped part way through the series, replaced by Marsh brothers based on white ball form Smile
djf01
I hope you are wrong on those predictions, I don't think Pucovski will play against Sri Lanka though, I think he maybe just "along for the ride" so to speak, he may be 12th man in one of the games, but yes, I do love the look of this side, especially so that they have recalled Matt Renshaw, I have liked the look of him since day 1.

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  djf01 Chief Commissioner

The selection panel.needs the clean out.

M Lab was picked for Syd test to bowl few part time leggies, and has been retained to stop the selectors looking too inconsistent.

Coach and selector is worse than captain and selector in terms of conflict of interest.

Imho, I think we need a different panel for red and white ball cricket.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Scoring the first century of the summer means Joe Burns has put himself in as firm favourite to join David Warner in opening the batting for this winter's Ashes series.

Travis Head is just nine runs away from booking a spot in the middle order - probably at 5 behind Smith.

Who will be the coach of the team in England though? Surely a former batsman can't survive as head coach with that sort of performance on his watch.
  lsrailfan Minister for Railways

Location: Somewhere you're not
Scoring the first century of the summer means Joe Burns has put himself in as firm favourite to join David Warner in opening the batting for this winter's Ashes series.

Travis Head is just nine runs away from booking a spot in the middle order - probably at 5 behind Smith.

Who will be the coach of the team in England though? Surely a former batsman can't survive as head coach with that sort of performance on his watch.
justapassenger
*That's on the proviso that Warner does come back, I'm not convinced of this myself

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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Head books his ticket!

Ashes XI firming up quite nicely…

Burns
Warner
????
Smith
Head (vc1)
????
Paine (c, wk)
Cummins (vc2)
Lyon
(Starc or Richardson)
Hazlewood

*That's on the proviso that Warner does come back, I'm not convinced of this myself
lsrailfan
Only chance that he won't is the unlikely event that he chooses to retire instead. Too much legal action riding on it.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Could somebody please tell me how in the name of Mazeppa a team can possibly have two vice captains?
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Head books his ticket!

Ashes XI firming up quite nicely…

Burns
Warner
????
Smith
Head (vc1)
????
Paine (c, wk)
Cummins (vc2)
Lyon
(Starc or Richardson)
Hazlewood

*That's on the proviso that Warner does come back, I'm not convinced of this myself
Only chance that he won't is the unlikely event that he chooses to retire instead. Too much legal action riding on it.
justapassenger

I don't want to discount what the three Australian centurions have done in this latest test, but really, it was a very docile pitch against sub-Shield standard attack bowling in as if the game was already lost.

Had S Marsh and M Marsh been selected, I would expect they (more than anyone) would have filled their boots in this game.

The truth is out best three bats - and the only 3 genuinely of Test standard - are:
S Smith
D Warner
U Khawaja

Below that there is a very long list of players who all have a claim - thought not compelling - for Test selection ...

T Head
J Burns
M Harris
M Wade
G Maxwell
K Patterson
P Handscomb
M Labushange
A Finch
S Marsh
M Rensha

Because they can bowl without taking wickets:
M Marsh
M Stoinus
Moises Henriques

I suppose I should add poor Will Pukovski to the batters list.  He has the unique distinction of being the only player to be selected for, then dropped from, the Australian team for poor form, without actually playing a match!

FWIW, I think our best top six is currently:

D Warner
U Khawaja
J Burns
S Smith
T Head
M Wade

12: G Maxwell

Warner only replaces Harris in the absence of a "no dickheads" policy.

And our best top 6 without the suspendees:

M Harris/M Renshaw
U Khawaja
J Burns
T Head
M Wade
G Maxwell

(No dickheads policy not withstanding Smile)

But the team I'd probably select with an eye to the future (even though it is mostly older players):

Matthew Renshaw
U Khawaja
D Warner
S Smith
T Head
M Wade (Selected on form, dropped on form, with J Burns or G Maxwell ready to take this spot)

12: G Maxwell

Given the Ashes is to be played after the WC, I'd be inclined to take the best form batter from the WC into the team at #6 (or #1 if it's A Finch).  It might be Finch, it might Maxwell, it might even be D Short.  But whoever carries best form the WC in English conditions should be in the Test team IMHO.

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