V/Line Incidents/Disruptions #2

 
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
As expected the failed train was shunted into the siding at Gisborne but not without a heap of mucking about. Road set for the siding and LX activated for a few minutes but no movement. Then LX switched off and road reset for the main. 15 minutes later, start again, road set for the siding, LX activated and this time the train crawled into the siding past a red over red signal which I found interesting.

The next Up service through Gisborne was delayed by 30 minutes, not sure if related or not.

As predicted by @Carnot the next train arrived before the road coach to Bendigo although credit to V/line staff at Gizzy they did procure a coach for Swan Hill pax pretty quickly.

BG

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  jakar Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Apologies as the quote feature isn't working on my tablet-

BrentonGolding wrote "past a red over red signal which I found interesting".

The home departure signal at the down end of Gisborne station has a low speed aspect on it which is normally used for entering that siding. If that was defective (which it probably was if you only saw two reds) then the crew would have had to recieve a caution order from the train controller to pass the signal. This may possibly explain the extra "mucking about" and the two cycles of the LX you speak of, but I'm surprised it took that long to organise.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Yep, N456 declared a fail at Gizzy. Will be interesting to see what happens next.
BrentonGolding
Yo, found N456 and N set at Gisborne at 10:45am

N450 (light engine) was creeping up behind me as I took this photo
Had to leave v. quickly, had an appointment. So no photo of N450.

  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Apologies as the quote feature isn't working on my tablet-

BrentonGolding wrote "past a red over red signal which I found interesting".

The home departure signal at the down end of Gisborne station has a low speed aspect on it which is normally used for entering that siding. If that was defective (which it probably was if you only saw two reds) then the crew would have had to recieve a caution order from the train controller to pass the signal. This may possibly explain the extra "mucking about" and the two cycles of the LX you speak of, but I'm surprised it took that long to organise.
jakar
Thanks Jakar, I couldn't see any little yellow light but I may have been looking at it from the wrong angle. I thought the siding would have it's own dwarf or similar and was surprised when I saw that there wasn't anything there but didn't think of a "calling on". I thought it may have been only accessible by an order from Centrol as you say.

BG
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Tonights Down flagship reduced to 3 cars as usual and then canned altogether 27 minutes later. The now normal 'she'll be right mate, just catch the 5.30 to Bendigo and we'll pay for a cab if your unfortunate enough to live in Eaglehawk' message on the app.

I guess this is as a result of the N class that hauls the flagship express being stuck in the siding at Gizzy Laughing

BG
  scumcock Locomotive Fireman

There is no calling on signal at gisborne.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
There is no calling on signal at gisborne.
scumcock
Well no wonder I didn't see one then Smile

BG
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
More mayhem and disruption for V/Line (and Metro) pax as Footscray station was closed due to a Police request and then all services suspended through the station at around 5 PM today. According to reports this was due to the good old "suspicious package" routine.

I dodged the trouble by using the time honoured Vinelander technique of going to the pub and waiting it out but it was chaos according to people interviewed on the radio with a Metro train also having problems and de-training pax on P6 and (according to our connie) a track circuit going down on the RRL pretty much as soon as they got the go ahead to resume services.

All in all it only lasted around 45 mins by the look of it but would have left a lot of miffed pax on the first evening of the long weekend.

They would however have been placated by PTV / Metro  V/Line expressing thanks for their patience during the disruption to services which always makes everything OK.

BG
  jakar Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
There is no calling on signal at gisborne.
Well no wonder I didn't see one then Smile

BG
BrentonGolding
Scumcock is correct in that there is no 'calling on' signal at Gisborne as a 'calling on' is found in two position signalling areas only. What Gisborne does have is a 'C' light on the home departure (GIS32) which shows a 'low speed caution' aspect for entry into the siding.

The down home departure from 1 road (the straight) at Castlemaine is setup the same for entry into Thomsons siding.

There's plenty of online resources for anyone interested in the differences between a calling on and a low speed caution.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
There is no calling on signal at gisborne.
Well no wonder I didn't see one then Smile

BG
Scumcock is correct in that there is no 'calling on' signal at Gisborne as a 'calling on' is found in two position signalling areas only. What Gisborne does have is a 'C' light on the home departure (GIS32) which shows a 'low speed caution' aspect for entry into the siding.

The down home departure from 1 road (the straight) at Castlemaine is setup the same for entry into Thomsons siding.

There's plenty of online resources for anyone interested in the differences between a calling on and a low speed caution.
jakar
Thanks Jakar but I wasn't actually being serious when I said Calling On that is why it was in inverted commas....... We have a calling on at the VGR and it is a very different animal.

I am aware of the C light and it's functions, I have seen them in operation at Southern Cross plenty of times from inside the train and out. As I said didn't see one at Gizzy but I may have just been on too obtuse an angle (a bit like my sense of humour really).

BG
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Down Bendigo flagship canned again this evening.

"the 16:57 Southern Cross - Castlemaine train has been replaced by road coaches."

No explanation, no nothing just that. That message came through on my email at 14.42 so they had plenty of notice. Staff shortage? Rolling stock shortage? Who knows.

Glad I am not using the evening Down services these days, it must be hell with the flow on effect of 3 to 6 carriages worth of pax trying to get onto other already crowded services every other day. I used to catch the 17.31 and it was standing room only.

BG
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Passengers on the Geelong and Ballarat lines faced disruptions and cancellations this evening due to a "rail equipment fault".

By contrast my Up Bendigo trip this evening was a lesson in what could be. Running nearly 10 minutes late out of Castlemaine after waiting for the Down Echuca to disgorge at least 300 pax most who had been to the climate change protest in Melbourne we made up just enough time into Sunbury to keep our slot but not enough to get stuck behind the proceeding spark. So it was full line speed all the way from Sunbury to Footscray which took around 17 minutes. Lovely Jubbly!

On the run through Tottenham we overtook the spark which is the train i transfer to for the trip to North Melbourne and then we came across a Melbourne bound Overland hauled by NR67 making it's way past West Footscray. 7 cars with plenty on board from what I could see. I don't know if it was early, late or a special, I haven't seen one through there at that time before.

BG
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Some clever dick in V/Line management has decided that the Twitter feeds should have a “we are running a good service” message posted early in the morning peak. This has resulted in some of the best work yet by the Comedy Crew: announcing a “good service” in the same breath as cancelling an up Geelong.



PS: the “good service” idea is ridiculous in the context and when it’s announced at random on Metro trains and platforms, but I do find it useful on the MetroNotify app where you can select a specific time to check if the service is good and notify you. For example, I can set mine for 7am and if I get the notification, great; if I don’t, time to investigate and potentially get an earlier or later service.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Some clever dick in V/Line management has decided that the Twitter feeds should have a “we are running a good service” message posted early in the morning peak. This has resulted in some of the best work yet by the Comedy Crew: announcing a “good service” in the same breath as cancelling an up Geelong.



PS: the “good service” idea is ridiculous in the context and when it’s announced at random on Metro trains and platforms, but I do find it useful on the MetroNotify app where you can select a specific time to check if the service is good and notify you. For example, I can set mine for 7am and if I get the notification, great; if I don’t, time to investigate and potentially get an earlier or later service.
potatoinmymouth
Classic!

And it all went pear-shaped on the Bendigo line too this morning.

Up Epsom hit a big roo near Taradale.  Took out a few of the power units but it soldiered on with 40 min+ delays.  And because of the single track the trains in front and behind it were also delayed.

And to top it all off, the Down Swan Hill carked it Gisborne (just like 2 weeks ago).  Bustitution for them.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Up Epsom hit a big roo near Taradale.  Took out a few of the power units but it soldiered on with 40 min+ delays.  And because of the single track the trains in front and behind it were also delayed.
"Carnot"
Nah; couldn't be. The line was singled to (ahem!) "provide better service."  ( Another of the Comedy Club's fine contributions.)
  Carnot Minister for Railways

It gets worse:
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Those delays may have cascaded through the day, i was working at CME from 11am till midday and there were cancelled train announcements coming over the PA. I hope no one missed their VGR booking because of it, V/Line couldn't even tell us what time the coaches left or what time they would arrive. In the end they arrived about 5 mins after the train to Maldon had departed.

BG
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
So according to sources the reason that the AM Up Echuca was terminated* and bustituted at Kyneton yesterday was that the AM Down Swan Hill which was a fail at Gisborne was occupying the East track. Why? Because unlike when the exact same thing happened 2 weeks ago V/Line wouldn't allow the failed train to be shunted into the siding.

The Up Echuca, already late out of Bendigo due to having to wait for the late running Down Bendigo which it couples up with to form a 6 car train, had over 200 pax on board and required 7 coaches to get them to their destination.

* I am led to believe that once all pax were detained the driver was given the all clear to depart....... to Melbourne empty while the passengers endured the long wait for coaches.

WTF is going on here V/Line???????

BG
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

So according to sources the reason that the AM Up Echuca was terminated* and bustituted at Kyneton yesterday was that the AM Down Swan Hill which was a fail at Gisborne was occupying the East track. Why? Because unlike when the exact same thing happened 2 weeks ago V/Line wouldn't allow the failed train to be shunted into the siding.

The Up Echuca, already late out of Bendigo due to having to wait for the late running Down Bendigo which it couples up with to form a 6 car train, had over 200 pax on board and required 7 coaches to get them to their destination.

* I am led to believe that once all pax were detained the driver was given the all clear to depart....... to Melbourne empty while the passengers endured the long wait for coaches.

WTF is going on here V/Line???????

BG
BrentonGolding
That's well beyond a joke. Senior management appear to be labouring under the delusion that they are running a bus company.
  scumcock Locomotive Fireman

Unfortunantly things are only going to get worse for vline as more and more services come online.
West melbourne can hardly keep up with maintainence then throw in bio washes and senior management that live in fantasy land its looking pretty grim.
Still nothing has been done regarding more fuelling they have plans or redeveloping south dynon and fuelling/storing more units there you still need to get the units/crews over there and back more headaches.
They are looking into a bio wash in bendigo as well as the long awaited exams out at the ssr workshops but nothing seems to move very fast with there "highly experianced" management team.
And what do you expect from a team who take getting performance bonuses over running a service.....
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
And the fun and games continue! On an Up V/line "express" service crawling towards Calder Park. The signals are all at Stop so we crawl from one to the next,  stop,  await permission to proceed. Hit the horn.Loud and long. Rinse and repeat.
  jakar Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Yep, the whole west side of SCS is a bit of a mess at the moment. Near miss at Robinsons Rd (allegedly person in a wheelchair in the middle of the track). Train was able to stop short but as could be expected by the time a relief crew arrived everything was banked up and out of place everywhere.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Yep, the whole west side of SCS is a bit of a mess at the moment. Near miss at Robinsons Rd (allegedly person in a wheelchair in the middle of the track). Train was able to stop short but as could be expected by the time a relief crew arrived everything was banked up and out of place everywhere.
jakar
Wasn't me............Razz

BigShunter.
  DALEK Locomotive Fireman

For the second Saturday in a row, the 7:37 Warrnambool to SCS service was so overcrowded that it had to run express after Geelong, with a Vlocity following and stopping at the skipped stations.
  vlocity27 Junior Train Controller

Location: Pakenham
Anyone know what the go is with trains terminating / originating at Warragul today??

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