New railway car parks at Vline stations too narrow, leading to damage

 

News article: New railway car parks at Vline stations too narrow, leading to damage

RAIL commuters are complaining of damage to their vehicles while parking in “narrow” upgraded car parks at VLine stations.

  x31 Chief Commissioner

Location: gallifrey
I will bite.

2.4m is far too narrow these days with many vehicles now popular being around 1.8m wide.  Victrack  state it is not their fault and say they have built them to the standard asked for my the operator.

The operator is V/Line which is owned by the government.  victrack is a government body.

Who then takes responsibility for the 2.4m car parks when the older parks at the stations are 2.6m wide?

New railway car parks at Vline stations too narrow, leading to damage

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  woodford Chief Commissioner

Sadly narrow car parking spaces now are all to common, in Benalla  Permewans. SSW and the main car park behind the main st shopping centre are all narrow. The station is worse as most of the spaces have the station building behind them leaving little room to get in or out, as a consequnce everyone ignores the spaces and parks with a decent distance between vehicles. THe SSW car park is murder its quite large but the would only be a handfull of spaces I can get my Landcruiser Troopy in AND get out of the vehicle.

woodford
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
When car parks have stupid tight spacing, park across the line.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
It really is silly that V/Line and Victrack cannot get a car park setup correctly when obviously people in regional centres drive larger vehicles.  Makes no sense at all other than it is all about delivering the bare minimum in Victoria when it comes to rail including car parks, track quality and rolling stock choices.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
because users of station car parks usually enter a space in the morning and occupy it for most of the day, commuter car parking is classified as User Class 1, which requires spaces to be 2.4m wide.
The aforementioned article

Honestly, what sort of bureaucratic rubbish response is this? How does this excuse the ridiculously tight car space?

These people do not live in the real world.
  Madjikthise Assistant Commissioner

because users of station car parks usually enter a space in the morning and occupy it for most of the day, commuter car parking is classified as User Class 1, which requires spaces to be 2.4m wide.

Honestly, what sort of bureaucratic rubbish response is this? How does this excuse the ridiculously tight car space?

These people do not live in the real world.
Gman_86
For short term parking you'd be making people get in and out through the window multiple times a day, but for commuting it's only once a day, so this is acceptable.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I will bite.

2.4m is far too narrow these days with many vehicles now popular being around 1.8m wide.  Victrack  state it is not their fault and say they have built them to the standard asked for my the operator.

The operator is V/Line which is owned by the government.  victrack is a government body.

Who then takes responsibility for the 2.4m car parks when the older parks at the stations are 2.6m wide?

New railway car parks at Vline stations too narrow, leading to damage
x31

Many obese people who wouldn't walk any more than 6 steps all day, between the fridge and the toilet if they could get away with it, insist on driving these enormous SUV's which replicate the lounge-rooms of their McMansions.

Whinge whinge...adapt fat people. Try walking to your local bus stop and take the bus to the station...or lose that fat and get a smaller car Exclamation

I'll get off my soapbox now. Smile


Obviously Woodford you live in a parallel universe because Permewan's went out of business years ago...same with SSW supermarkets.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/65492204



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgRFR0Ub6Nw

Mike.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Whatever happened to SSW?
  RedEyeExpress Locomotive Driver

Location: Melbourne
Were they both swallowed up by IGA?
  woodford Chief Commissioner

I will bite.

2.4m is far too narrow these days with many vehicles now popular being around 1.8m wide.  Victrack  state it is not their fault and say they have built them to the standard asked for my the operator.

The operator is V/Line which is owned by the government.  victrack is a government body.

Who then takes responsibility for the 2.4m car parks when the older parks at the stations are 2.6m wide?

New railway car parks at Vline stations too narrow, leading to damage

Many obese people who wouldn't walk any more than 6 steps all day, between the fridge and the toilet if they could get away with it, insist on driving these enormous SUV's which replicate the lounge-rooms of their McMansions.

Whinge whinge...adapt fat people. Try walking to your local bus stop and take the bus to the station...or lose that fat and get a smaller car Exclamation

I'll get off my soapbox now. Smile


Obviously Woodford you live in a parallel universe because Permewan's went out of business years ago...same with SSW supermarkets.

Mike.
The Vinelander

I find your remarks MOST offensive. Sadly you are showing your prejudices, next time try getting some decent evidence.

I currently weigh 125Kgs down from 165kgs, I walk as much as possible and have my own DECENT gym, in which a do 30 to 45 minute sessions twice a week.

I do not care  WHO owns the supermarket, IT IS STILL SIGNED SSW, THATS WHY I CALLED IT THAT!!!!!!!!

Next time you post TRY putting your brain in gear BEFORE posting.

Sorry to be so abrupt, you have pissed me off greatly

woodford
  woodford Chief Commissioner

I will bite.

2.4m is far too narrow these days with many vehicles now popular being around 1.8m wide.  Victrack  state it is not their fault and say they have built them to the standard asked for my the operator.

The operator is V/Line which is owned by the government.  victrack is a government body.

Who then takes responsibility for the 2.4m car parks when the older parks at the stations are 2.6m wide?

New railway car parks at Vline stations too narrow, leading to damage

Many obese people who wouldn't walk any more than 6 steps all day, between the fridge and the toilet if they could get away with it, insist on driving these enormous SUV's which replicate the lounge-rooms of their McMansions.

Whinge whinge...adapt fat people. Try walking to your local bus stop and take the bus to the station...or lose that fat and get a smaller car Exclamation

I'll get off my soapbox now. Smile


Obviously Woodford you live in a parallel universe because Permewan's went out of business years ago...same with SSW supermarkets.

Mike.

I find your remarks MOST offensive. Sadly you are showing your prejudices, next time try getting some decent evidence.

I currently weigh 125Kgs down from 165kgs, I walk as much as possible and have my own DECENT gym, in which a do 30 to 45 minute sessions twice a week.

I do not care  WHO owns the supermarket, IT IS STILL SIGNED SSW, THATS WHY I CALLED IT THAT!!!!!!!!

Next time you post TRY putting your brain in gear BEFORE posting.

Sorry to be so abrupt, you have pissed me off greatly

woodford


Oops, the supermarket is NOW labeled Safeway, its apparently owned by Woolworths, it was SSW for a long time.
woodford
  woodford Chief Commissioner

Post Script to the above..............

As previously mentioned I am a VERY keen student of engineering and all things scientific. I HAVE NOT the slightest interest in Business or politics.

woodford
  Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

Location: Yarra Glen
It's really irrelevant as to how corpulent or unfit a driver may be.  What matters is whether you want to come back to your car at the end of the day, to find that someone has opened their door onto your car, or has clipped your car, and has then driven off without leaving a note.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I will bite.

2.4m is far too narrow these days with many vehicles now popular being around 1.8m wide.  Victrack  state it is not their fault and say they have built them to the standard asked for my the operator.

The operator is V/Line which is owned by the government.  victrack is a government body.

Who then takes responsibility for the 2.4m car parks when the older parks at the stations are 2.6m wide?

New railway car parks at Vline stations too narrow, leading to damage

Many obese people who wouldn't walk any more than 6 steps all day, between the fridge and the toilet if they could get away with it, insist on driving these enormous SUV's which replicate the lounge-rooms of their McMansions.

Whinge whinge...adapt fat people. Try walking to your local bus stop and take the bus to the station...or lose that fat and get a smaller car Exclamation

I'll get off my soapbox now. Smile


Obviously Woodford you live in a parallel universe because Permewan's went out of business years ago...same with SSW supermarkets.

Mike.

I find your remarks MOST offensive. Sadly you are showing your prejudices, next time try getting some decent evidence.

I currently weigh 125Kgs down from 165kgs, I walk as much as possible and have my own DECENT gym, in which a do 30 to 45 minute sessions twice a week.

I do not care  WHO owns the supermarket, IT IS STILL SIGNED SSW, THATS WHY I CALLED IT THAT!!!!!!!!

Next time you post TRY putting your brain in gear BEFORE posting.

Sorry to be so abrupt, you have pissed me off greatly

woodford
woodford

Congratulations for doing something about it Woodford....but it wasn't compulsory to out yourself.

I had to use my car today...which BTW is my fourth choice of transport after walking, riding my bike, taking the train then using my car and I had to call in to my local IGA but in front of me was a red Commodore whose owner found the closest spot to the door and out of the car as I drove past to get where there were no cars at all was this FAT lard a$$ woman...around 35 fat hanging over the top of her tight stretchy jeans, reinforcing my view of these lard a$$es.

Like drug addicts they will become a burden on the health system if they don't cark it first.

I was well and truly...brain in gear when I posted my earlier message.

Mike.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

No need to get personal gentlemen.
  woodford Chief Commissioner

No need to get personal gentlemen.
THe Vinelander fired the first shot, in this case Ifelt it necesary to defend myself.

A couple of points............

You cannot faiirly catagorise a whole group people on the actions of a few.

Mike accused me of being in a a parrallel universe because of a difference of views, in that case he must in a constant fight with 95% of the population, what a way to live. We live in a complex changing world this makes for a wide range of views on ANY subject.

Mike you can in reality run me down as much as you like, although ALL that will do will decrease my opinion of you.

woodford
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
With a lot of money now pledged for station car parks in the Melbourne Metro area one ponders what size these will be when constructed?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

When car parks have stupid tight spacing, park across the line.
RTT_Rules
Don't be suprised then, if other users critique your parking abilities leaving a messege with their car keys.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
No need to get personal gentlemen.
THe Vinelander fired the first shot, in this case Ifelt it necesary to defend myself.

A couple of points............

You cannot faiirly catagorise a whole group people on the actions of a few.

Mike accused me of being in a a parrallel universe because of a difference of views, in that case he must in a constant fight with 95% of the population, what a way to live. We live in a complex changing world this makes for a wide range of views on ANY subject.

Mike you can in reality run me down as much as you like, although ALL that will do will decrease my opinion of you.

woodford
woodford

Now that you're making the proverbial mountain out of a molehill Woodford, I had absolutely no idea of your 'condition' therefore it's impossible to be construed that I was slingling personal insults in your direction.

Furthermore as you decided to out yourself you've literally created another mountain out of a molehill...you could have just as easily said nothing and the fuss would have died down very quickly. I'm certain you are NOT the only reader in this forum who is/was obese.

I definitely stand by my original remarks about...I'll be kind...obese people driving enormous vehicles to accommodate their girth and in many cases, the rest of their families girth as well and that they will inevitably become a drain on the public health system...that's almost a certainty.

Mike.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
With a lot of money now pledged for station car parks in the Melbourne Metro area one ponders what size these will be when constructed?
bevans

Public pressure in many cases is going to demand these car parks rise upwards...not spread outwards. Furthermore, we are not too far away in time where charges will have to be imposed on those commuters who wish to utilise these dead spaces which costs lots to create...are an eyesore and bring in no revenue.

Link to London suburban train car parking:

http://parkandridelondon.com/articles/the-best-underground-stations-to-park-at

Mike.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

It's an awful lot of money to spend on dead space (car parks).  The way we've planned our cities over the past 70 years is costing us dearly.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

It's an awful lot of money to spend on dead space (car parks).  The way we've planned our cities over the past 70 years is costing us dearly.
Carnot
I'd say the problem is that planning takes a back seat to pandering.

At the very least, those station car parks which are full more than one day a week should have the parking fees raised (or introduced if currently free) to start offsetting the lavish subsidies given to private motorists. A car park that is full is a car park which is too cheap.

It's quite likely that there are some station car parks which could generate a surplus, allowing the taxpayer funding of the V/Line system to be diverted to areas which need it more.

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