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Tapped out just in time to avoid the possible impending alleged death tax?What do you mean by 'all the others'
I don’t celebrate people passing, but this is one less we have to pay for. Now we just have to wait for all the others to drop off their perch.
The Vinelander, I mean EVERY current but especially FORMER politicians who continue to drain the Australian economy via payments for a job they no longer do!
Vinelander, you are an imbecile.
What other occupation pays 50+% of salary as superannuation for 8+ years of service?
Superannuation is one thing, but I presume by your response you’re an unclosested ALP fan... If you think such terms of payment having left an occupation is reasonable I suggest you are voting for the wrong team.
Politicians are well remunerated by being politicians because it's not a permanent job and they can be turfed out at the next election.From that remark, I would infer that you work for a Government Department or similar, from which it is very difficult to actually sack someone. Try working in industry, where you can be sacked or "made redundant" at the whim of one person. Nobody gets super-generous super to cover such an eventuality.
I think that Bob Hawke will be remembered by the community as a whole as a person that progressed change by taking the community with him, by consensus.A gracious well thought out post. Thank you for that. Vale Hawkie.
I remember as a kid his employment summit that had union leadership, business, leaders of various groups (eg farmers,social security advocates, welfare, etc) to sit at Parliament house for a summit to reform the employment system. No leader has attempted since then to truly reform a system by consensus.
Unfortunately with our polarising attack dog political system now, I don't have much hope that I will see anything like that again.
While he certainly wasn't perfect, but neither were Bob Menzies, Gough Whitlam or John Howard, my personal view is that he will be generally remembered as an actual leader not just as PM. Unfortunately we have had many people be appointed PM, but were terrible leaders, as they couldn't even lead their own side of politics when they were in the big chair.
We are in a better place because of his contribution to our society.
Vale Bob Hawke.
I think equating my comments about no politician being worth the amount they are paid for no longer being in their role to wanting to live in a dictatorship, police state or some other such place with no freedom is a weak minded argument.Nah, to busy sitting in the back yard in the sun with a couple of kids peeling and eating yabbies.
Imbecillus means what is means.
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Tapped out just in time to avoid the possible impending alleged death tax?What do you mean by 'all the others'
I don’t celebrate people passing, but this is one less we have to pay for. Now we just have to wait for all the others to drop off their perch.
Mike.
[color=#0b0080]John Howard[/color] | 26 July 1939 (age 79) | 1996–2007 |
[color=#0b0080]Paul Keating[/color] | 18 January 1944 (age 75) | 1991–1996 |
[color=#0b0080]Malcolm Turnbull[/color] | 24 October 1954 (age 64) | 2015–2018 |
[color=#0b0080]Kevin Rudd[/color] | 21 September 1957 (age 61) | 2007–2010, 2013 |
[color=#0b0080]Tony Abbott[/color] | 4 November 1957 (age 61) | 2013–2015 |
[color=#0b0080]Julia Gillard[/color] | 29 September 1961 (age 57) | 2010–2013 |
The list is more extensive than just ex PMs RTT, there are leaders of the government in the senate, ministers, and the other parliamentarians as well.Yes of course, but I thought the focus was PM's, the parliamentary pension for back benches is excessive I agree. Should be same as rest of us. However Howard to scrap the Parliamentary Pension scheme for new members from 2004, what the details of the new scheme are???
Politicians are well remunerated by being politicians because it's not a permanent job and they can be turfed out at the next election.From that remark, I would infer that you work for a Government Department or similar, from which it is very difficult to actually sack someone. Try working in industry, where you can be sacked or "made redundant" at the whim of one person. Nobody gets super-generous super to cover such an eventuality.
No, Parliamentarians are remunerated for the job they’re doing whilst they’re doing it - no issue with that whatsoever, although they are somewhat overly highly paid considering their job is not especially arduous or even held to a reasonable sense of accountability.
There are no private sector jobs I can think of where performance evaluations and opportunities for ‘being held to account’ only occur once every 3-4 (or worse 6) years.
There is no valid reason to be paying former politicians after they have left the job.