Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.
Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west
This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.
Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.
Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west
This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.Name a Metro/Suburban/interurban commuter and regional passenger rail project in Sydney that was Fed funded in last 10-20 years?
Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.
Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west
Timing won't change and basically cannot change, Sydney can only support so many major rail projects at once, with the NWRL project winding down, this workforce will become available for Metro West which is proposed to start next year which is the time-frame announced by GB.This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.
Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.
Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west
Metro west is already in planning with finance and adding extra federal money isn't going to fast track anything because the NSW government already has plans well advanced for construction starting in 2020.
I have no idea how you've developed this idea that NSW is a Good Little Vegemiter without its hand out for cash.This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.Name a Metro/Suburban/interurban commuter and regional passenger rail project in Sydney that was Fed funded in last 10-20 years?
Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.
Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west
Meanwhile the Vic RFR, promised hand outs for Geelong, what else.....hell you even want the Feds to fund the Airport line, something 3 other states started on their own.
Mel/Vic currently has the highest population growth, but 10 years ago it was BNE/Qld, with Syd/NSW in between. Who's to day it won't change, again!
When did scomo promise money for metro west? Labor promised money but the libs did not.It was a similar story in Victoria.
To be honest during the recent campaigns it all looked like everybody wanted a piece of Gladys pie in NSW. Both fed and state labor promised to build something that the libs already had in planning meanwhile scomo went and got the votes that really mattered in QLD and didn't have to do much in NSW since Gladys could do that for him.
I wonder what would those numbers look like if we went back 10 years. Also most of that expenditure is on westconnex and the airport and not on trains. Much is still being spent on roads such as the major highway upgrades.As I said, it hardly matters where the money goes, because it has the same effect on the state government's ability to fund capital projects. NSW wouldn't have been able to fund the Metro if it had been funding all those rural road projects.
But looking at those numbers a Victorian should be upset at Queensland's share and not NSW. It is clear they are getting a significant amount more then there population of infrastructure money and are still crying poor over cross river rail.
I wonder what would those numbers look like if we went back 10 years. Also most of that expenditure is on westconnex and the airport and not on trains. Much is still being spent on roads such as the major highway upgrades.As I said, it hardly matters where the money goes, because it has the same effect on the state government's ability to fund capital projects. NSW wouldn't have been able to fund the Metro if it had been funding all those rural road projects.
But looking at those numbers a Victorian should be upset at Queensland's share and not NSW. It is clear they are getting a significant amount more then there population of infrastructure money and are still crying poor over cross river rail.
And I agree with you on the second part. I wouldn't begrudge NSW a cent of what they're getting.
NSW is getting about 1/3 of the money, which is fair as its roughly 1/3 the population, although the level is declining and what was spent on Suburban Rail?.I have no idea how you've developed this idea that NSW is a Good Little Vegemiter without its hand out for cash.This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.Name a Metro/Suburban/interurban commuter and regional passenger rail project in Sydney that was Fed funded in last 10-20 years?
Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.
Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west
Meanwhile the Vic RFR, promised hand outs for Geelong, what else.....hell you even want the Feds to fund the Airport line, something 3 other states started on their own.
Mel/Vic currently has the highest population growth, but 10 years ago it was BNE/Qld, with Syd/NSW in between. Who's to day it won't change, again!
"The NSW Treasurer wants more commonwealth cash for his state's big road, rail and airport projects."
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/nsw-wants-roads-rail-funding-from-budget
Drawing a semantic distinction about which modes have been funded and which have not makes no sense, because ultimately a rail dollar and a road dollar have the same budget impact. If the Feds fund a road for NSW, that gives them capital to build train lines - I would have though that's fairly obvious.
Although it represents only part of the federal infrastructure funding, from 2014 to 2017 NSW had $13.9b deposited under the NPA, while Victoria had only $8.5b.
A cynic might even suggest that the federal funding is directed to smaller projects so the NSW Government gets big ribbon-cutting opportunities all to itself.
Edit: here's a source that does the sums. Look at those graphs and tell me a) NSW is "self-funded" and b) Victoria is not being dudded in favour of Queensland and WA.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-14/fact-check-south-australia-infrastructure-funding/9537064
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-14/fact-check-south-australia-infrastructure-funding/9537064
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