This is all spilt milk, and contaminated milk at that.

Sydney Morning Herald, Feb 2015:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-parliamentary-inquiry-to-examine-newcastle-rail-line-cabinet-documents-found-in-disgraced-mps-office-20150217-13gqrr.html

What is "split milk?" Please note that I'm not one thousand years of age!

Why don't you Google it. It is a term used fairly regularly these days even by younger people. I find your comment offensive and unnecessary.

No Google results. (See link provided.) And what did I say that was so offensive? https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=split+milk

Yes Subway was the only fast food outlet I come across (big places their usually open 16+ hours a day)

Well what did you expect to be open after business hours other than restaurants?

What I meant was that trams could of used the heavy rail tracks from near Broadmeadow Station to Newcastle Station than extended to Pacific Park (current terminus) with limited Interaction with Scott Street.

Earlier you said , "the heavy rail should of terminated at Broadmeadow Station with a connecting tram taking passengers down to the Newcastle Beach terminus using the heavy rail tracks." I thought that you were saying that the old Newcastle terminus could've simply been renamed to "Newcastle Beach." How could the heavy rail have been extended to the current Pacific Park terminus?

Well it obviously would not have gone into the terminal but could have split off where it does now.

Yeah, but the member specified "no street running."

This is all spilt milk, and contaminated milk at that.

Sydney Morning Herald, Feb 2015:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-parliamentary-inquiry-to-examine-newcastle-rail-line-cabinet-documents-found-in-disgraced-mps-office-20150217-13gqrr.html

What is "split milk?" Please note that I'm not one thousand years of age!

Split milk is 'skim' or 'light' milk where the cream has been separated out, as opposed to whole milk where the cream is still in.

Okay, but you don't know the meaning when used to refer to other things?

I sure do, but given you couldn't even read that earlier post at face value I'm not surprised that the sarcasm went straight over your head. Whoosh!

Read it as it is, not as you want it to be, and you'll head in the correct direction.

This is all spilt milk, and contaminated milk at that.

Sydney Morning Herald, Feb 2015:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-parliamentary-inquiry-to-examine-newcastle-rail-line-cabinet-documents-found-in-disgraced-mps-office-20150217-13gqrr.html

What is "split milk?" Please note that I'm not one thousand years of age!

Why don't you Google it. It is a term used fairly regularly these days even by younger people. I find your comment offensive and unnecessary.

No Google results. (See link provided.) And what did I say that was so offensive? https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=split+milk

To me it implies that I am not a hipster like you because I know what spilt milk means. Its not split milk which the auto spell check changes it from spilt.

I did Google Spilt Milk and besides some music festival I came up with the following:

Meaning: Being upset over something that has already happened and cannot be changed. Usually this phrase is said as “it's no use crying over spilt milk,” whichmeans that getting upset over certain things, like spilled milk, is not going to fix it.

Former train driver and PM Ben Chifley put it well; “It’s no use crying over SPILT milk; all you can do is bail up another cow”.

Perhaps we should split from this argument before reputations are spilt?

The phase "Spilt Milk" or "Don't cry over spilt milk" is another term of saying the phase "Don't spit the dummy" and that's simply what all this is about! Is the businesses are spitting the dummy over something THEY wanted done in Newcastle and THEY got what THEY wanted by having the Newcastle heavy rail corridor ripped up as THEY voted for it! And NOW, THEY are paying the price of losing customers and business over it, so YES! Serves themselves right!!! I had every right to say it in the beginning, user chris155au!

If I was in the same situation, I would simply pack up my shop and relocate out of Hunter Street! Long before the work began! ALL businesses were provided a notice and given ample of time to organize their own way round things! That means that they could have a choice to relocate while the works on the light rail project began

Overall, all businesses on Hunter Street would need to relocate anyway! This was clearly noted to all businesses as an option when work begins to remodel Newcastle's CBD! Surely, you would have to relocate! Common sense would tell you this as you wouldn't want to be near any of the remodelling works of Newcastle's CBD, if THAT ever happens!

The phase "Spilt Milk" or "Don't cry over spilt milk" is another term of saying the phase "Don't spit the dummy"

No it doesn't mean that according to the person who first used it in this thread. User 'nswtrains' said that it means:

"Being upset over something that has already happened and cannot be changed. Usually this phrase is said as “it's no use crying over spilt milk,” which means that getting upset over certain things, like spilled milk, is not going to fix it."

Is the businesses are spitting the dummy over something THEY wanted done in Newcastle and THEY got what THEY wanted by having the Newcastle heavy rail corridor ripped up as THEY voted for it!

You failed miserable at being able to answer this question in my last reply: Did they vote for the simply BRILLIANT idea of making Hunter Street part of the corridor?

And NOW, THEY are paying the price of losing customers and business over it, so YES! Serves themselves right!!! I had every right to say it in the beginning, user chris155au!

Did I say that you didn't have the right to say it?

If I was in the same situation, I would simply pack up my shop and relocate out of Hunter Street! Long before the work began! ALL businesses were provided a notice and given ample of time to organize their own way round things! That means that they could have a choice to relocate while the works on the light rail project began

What makes you think that relocation is possible for everyone?

Overall, all businesses on Hunter Street would need to relocate anyway! This was clearly noted to all businesses as an option when work begins to remodel Newcastle's CBD!

What plan are you even talking about?

chris155au,

First of all, all business owners do have access to funds! Incase you didn't know, the funds are for relocating if required OR as required by lease ended or if they need to relocate for any other reasons such as road works, light rail construction or anything else as an emergency, also business owners has funds for covering some cost up front for fire damage "which some business owners tends to burn their own shop to the ground to get insurance! It's very well known"! and cost to cover damaged or stolen goods including cost to cover repair works to their shop

So therefore business owners can afford to relocate!

YES, it does mean that "Don't cry over spilt milk also means don't spit the dummy" same term doofus! Just different ways of saying the phase! Go to school you might learn something!!!

Well, the reason why the Newcastle Heavy Rail Corridor was ripped up! The plan was to "REVIVE" Newcastle CBD! Excluding the light rail, mind you! This was going to include a university to be built, more shops, high rise buildings "a fatal clause if you ask me for a town that's NEVER fully recovered from an earthquake" can't remember when exactly it happened, but if you know what Google is search it up! Including the so-called revive Newcastle CBD for more information about the project to remodel Newcastle's CBD

Why do you think that all of the business owners voted to rip up the heavy rail corridor in the first place! The simple answer is the revive the Newcastle CBD project "As stated above, excluding the light rail project" as the light rail project currently getting built, was not part of the revive Newcastle's CBD project and plus the developers needed the waterfront view so getting rid of the heavy rail corridor was their first intention and now that a light rail project has started this is causing more headaches to even begin the revive Newcastle's CBD project, in other words it's delayed!!!

Dear Baby Jesus, calm down Cityrail rulers! No need to be so unpleasant. You can respond with calm and decorum to views you disagree with. What happened to civility and manners I wonder? Seems to have gone out the door since the internet arrived. Personally, I find no problems with the current situation. Newcastle will rise and be a sought after locale, once the tram is extended and becomes a real network. Once the old fashioned stores are replaced by more modern traders, and people with real money move into the new flats, the place will be buzzing. Won't happen tomorrow, but it will happen.

Bravo Billy Baxter

You've singlehandedly saved this thread from the Lorna Jane Memorial Day Care Facility

For years there was a push to remove heavy rail from Newcastle by "DEVELOPERS and SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS" moaning about the rail line blocked access to the Harbour and Developers thinking there was money to be made with the rail corridor removed, so they could shove up high rise buildings in its place, their political party the current Liberal Government gained power, they  got what they wanted, and now what business was there has evaporated, I think they call that a home goal.

Maybe an "own goal"