Tenterfield Fires

 
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Fires are burning in the area of Tenterfield, NSW.  Have these fires had any detrimental impacts on the railway infrastructure of the area?

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  Just The Tip Junior Train Controller

Location: Danger zone
I would be more concerned about peoples homes and livelihoods than some old, disused piece of rusty railway track.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I would be more concerned about peoples homes and livelihoods than some old, disused piece of rusty railway track.
Just The Tip

That is given but reports are surfacing on social media about assets being damaged.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
I would be more concerned about peoples homes and livelihoods than some old, disused piece of rusty railway track.

That is given but reports are surfacing on social media about assets being damaged.
bevans
There are no longer any recoverable railway assets apart from the rails themselves and only for scrap value in the Tenterfield area.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I would be more concerned about peoples homes and livelihoods than some old, disused piece of rusty railway track.

That is given but reports are surfacing on social media about assets being damaged.
There are no longer any recoverable railway assets apart from the rails themselves and only for scrap value in the Tenterfield area.
RTT_Rules

Trestle bridges?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I would be more concerned about peoples homes and livelihoods than some old, disused piece of rusty railway track.

That is given but reports are surfacing on social media about assets being damaged.
There are no longer any recoverable railway assets apart from the rails themselves and only for scrap value in the Tenterfield area.
RTT_Rules

With the fires around Stanthorpe, Q and the old main line, still available for use AFAIK... that's possibly where the rail assets will be potentially hit the hardest.

Stanthorpe will be looking for tourism to help get back on its feet with the recurring drought. It would be good for ARHS to cobble together a Winelander train if the rolling stock is available.

Mike.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
I would be more concerned about peoples homes and livelihoods than some old, disused piece of rusty railway track.

That is given but reports are surfacing on social media about assets being damaged.
There are no longer any recoverable railway assets apart from the rails themselves and only for scrap value in the Tenterfield area.

Trestle bridges?
bevans
All of which have not been used or maintained for ~30 years and I believe most were timber so likely no longer fit for use and if the line was to be reopened would more than likely need full replacement.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
I would be more concerned about peoples homes and livelihoods than some old, disused piece of rusty railway track.

That is given but reports are surfacing on social media about assets being damaged.
There are no longer any recoverable railway assets apart from the rails themselves and only for scrap value in the Tenterfield area.

Trestle bridges?
bevans
All of which have not been used or maintained for ~30 years and I believe most were timber so likely no longer fit for use and if the line was to be reopened would more than likely need full replacement.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE

With the fires around Stanthorpe, Q and the old main line, still available for use AFAIK... that's possibly where the rail assets will be potentially hit the hardest.

Stanthorpe will be looking for tourism to help get back on its feet with the recurring drought. It would be good for ARHS to cobble together a Winelander train if the rolling stock is available.

Mike.
The Vinelander
The skinny gauge section is a bit different to its long retired wider cousin south of the border, and significant loss from fire will more than likely see it permanently closed or "services suspended" and yes loss of a potential HR operation.

An infrequent HR operation isn't really a major tourist job generating draw card but it does help and it would be nice to see the Toowoomba - Warwick - Stanthorpe NG section remain active beyond the opening of the Inland after which I think most expect the SW NG line to longer be used by rail freight.

I thought ARHS ceased the Wine-train because of the older lander rollingstock being retired by QR?
  Sulla1 Chief Commissioner


With the fires around Stanthorpe, Q and the old main line, still available for use AFAIK... that's possibly where the rail assets will be potentially hit the hardest.

Stanthorpe will be looking for tourism to help get back on its feet with the recurring drought. It would be good for ARHS to cobble together a Winelander train if the rolling stock is available.

Mike.
The skinny gauge section is a bit different to its long retired wider cousin south of the border, and significant loss from fire will more than likely see it permanently closed or "services suspended" and yes loss of a potential HR operation.

An infrequent HR operation isn't really a major tourist job generating draw card but it does help and it would be nice to see the Toowoomba - Warwick - Stanthorpe NG section remain active beyond the opening of the Inland after which I think most expect the SW NG line to longer be used by rail freight.

I thought ARHS ceased the Wine-train because of the older lander rollingstock being retired by QR?
RTT_Rules
SDSR runs regular heritage trains between Warwick and Wallangarra and is now the only regular operator on the line other than very occasional QR maintenance trains. The last regular freight on the line ended in the mid-2000s with the Golden Circle apple traffic.

There's an outside chance that Watco might find some business on the line, such as container traffic to and from the proposed Guyra Meatworks - the previous and now closed meatworks provided the bulk of the traffic on the QR line during the 1990s. I wouldn't hold my breath for freight returning, but Watco is probably the only company in Queensland that will look into it.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Great to see Watco looking to build a business sorely missed now in Victoria with the demise of El Zorro.
  The_trolley Deputy Commissioner

Location: .
Don’t get me wrong, I like Watco. They’re a business though and they’ve proven so far they’re not an El Zorro type doing whatever backyard train people want run. In Queensland, all they have for certain so far is the reasonably large GrainCorp contract. Anything else is a rumour and if it does happen is just the likely return to rail of past sizeable volumes of traffic dropped by Aurizon. In WA, they operate the CBH trains, a port container shuttle and ballast trains. None of that working was new to rail; it’s just existing work they successfully tendered for a won.

So with that in mind, can with quit day dreaming about Watco being the saviour every time regional traffic in Queensland is brought up? If it stacks up I’m sure they’ll look into it. I can’t see them pulling into Wallangarra any time soon though.
  The_trolley Deputy Commissioner

Location: .
That should read, ‘they’re not another El Zorro type’. Apologies also for the spelling errors. The forum won’t allow me the edit my post via my phone.

EDIT: Fixed - KRviator
  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
Fires are burning in the area of Tenterfield, NSW.  Have these fires had any detrimental impacts on the railway infrastructure of the area?
bevans
What about the fires burning around Dorrigo? Any detrimental impacts on the railway infrastructure of the area?
  The_trolley Deputy Commissioner

Location: .
As far as I’m aware the fires have been burning on the Ebor side of Dorrigo. The line runs towards the coast.

A bit like the Tenterfield fires though; it’s hard to impact on a railway that returned to nature decades ago and will never serve as a railway line again.
  303gunner Station Master

Just as the Tenterfield burnt over 100Km to cut the North Coast Line at Rappville, the Armidale fire (AKA Bee's Nest fire) has spotted and now burnt the Dorrigo line between Glenreagh and Lowanna, at a place called Twelve Sixty Rd.
Only 11Km of bush separates the Twelve Sixty fire and the North Coast Line at Nana Glen!
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Fires are burning in the area of Tenterfield, NSW.  Have these fires had any detrimental impacts on the railway infrastructure of the area?
What about the fires burning around Dorrigo? Any detrimental impacts on the railway infrastructure of the area?
apw5910
Railway infrastructure?  Is that what we're calling the hoarders yard now?
  303gunner Station Master

Err, no, the other end  of the line. The fire has burnt across the line between Glenreagh and Lowanna, that is, the section of the branch operated by the GMR (https://www.gmr.org.au/copy-2-of-about). Not hoarders, operators.

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