Grain Harvest 2019-20

 
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
A feel good moment about the benefits of this gauge work and renewals.

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  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
A feel good moment about the benefits of this gauge work and renewals.

Imagine possibilities with Ponaroo also connected.
freightgate
*Pinaroo

Ive heard this is being looked at too...

Which might actually make sense for Victoria to be part of - the SA line down to Tailem is probably going to cost a motza to do up now (which won't be recovered from the comparatively small amount of grain that might go from Western Vic to SA, whereas the few KM to Murrayville will add easy volumes to that line and to the Victorian system.  Id think this could suck a bunch of SA grain into the Pinaroo site too given the cost advantages, feeding more into Victorian ports.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
*Pinaroo

Ive heard this is being looked at too...

Which might actually make sense for Victoria to be part of - the SA line down to Tailem is probably going to cost a motza to do up now (which won't be recovered from the comparatively small amount of grain that might go from Western Vic to SA, whereas the few KM to Murrayville will add easy volumes to that line and to the Victorian system.  Id think this could suck a bunch of SA grain into the Pinaroo site too given the cost advantages, feeding more into Victorian ports.
james.au

GWA have run their network down for years and their customer has voted with their feet.  I can't disagree with the prospect of SG into the Pinaroo Terminal which I believe is larger than the MV terminal. Confirm?

Moving grain to ports in Victoria is now augmented with moving grain to other parts of the country which as has been stated is a good news story for the conversion.

Let's hope they get on with the upgrade to Pinaroo quickly as I have heard there is a lot of grain in the area which will need to be moved.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Ive heard this is being looked at too...

Which might actually make sense for Victoria to be part of - the SA line down to Tailem is probably going to cost a motza to do up now (which won't be recovered from the comparatively small amount of grain that might go from Western Vic to SA, whereas the few KM to Murrayville will add easy volumes to that line and to the Victorian system.  Id think this could suck a bunch of SA grain into the Pinaroo site too given the cost advantages, feeding more into Victorian ports.
james.au
Interesting statement james, got any further info, why who when what for ?

The general region while it could be said is fairly marginal, obviously is quite reliable with 3 reasonable size grain terminals within a relatively close proximity. Also GrainCorp wouldn't have upgraded their Murrayville site and others if they weren't profitable, not to mention swilling some $$$ for the track to be standardised.

It would be good to know where the most of the grain from the region ends up ? I was going to say it's a bloody long way to any Vic port from here but given grain is currently heading to Moree, that is currently irrelevant. Your probably right james, as a collective Viterra, GrainFlow and GrainCorp should make for a decent quantity of grain in most years, quite possibly several hundered thousand tonnes. Whether you could get all 3 to work in conjunction would more than likely be rather difficult....Rolling Eyes

BigShunter.
  ngarner Chief Train Controller

Location: Seville
This is grrat news really good to see the farmers will bounce back and rai, will be able to assist with the transport.  I hope North Geelong C Box issues will be fixed before then?

Do we know when the SG work at North Geelong yard is starting?
bevans
There you go Bevans, Dan Andrews has just answered your question

North Geelong C

Neil
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Well Melissa Horne has hit the nail on the head;

Quotes attributable to Minister for Ports and Freight Melissa Horne

“With Victorian grain growers set to experience a bumper harvest this year, it is important we can move grain efficiently from the farm gate to port via Geelong’s rail freight network.”

My ears to the ground are also saying at this stage, a very large harvest is expected, particularly the triangle from Dimmy, Warracknabeal back to Horsham, the West Wimmera also looking very very good, fingers crossed and touch wood.

Generally mid November is the kickoff to harvest but with very few warm days and even less with nice sunny days, things may be a little later this year. Wait and see.

BigShunter.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

Well Melissa Horne has hit the nail on the head;

Quotes attributable to Minister for Ports and Freight Melissa Horne

“With Victorian grain growers set to experience a bumper harvest this year, it is important we can move grain efficiently from the farm gate to port via Geelong’s rail freight network.”

My ears to the ground are also saying at this stage, a very large harvest is expected, particularly the triangle from Dimmy, Warracknabeal back to Horsham, the West Wimmera also looking very very good, fingers crossed and touch wood.

Generally mid November is the kickoff to harvest but with very few warm days and even less with nice sunny days, things may be a little later this year. Wait and see.

BigShunter.
BigShunter
A mixed bag though.  Vic Mallee crop is pretty shot or cut for hay.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
All of it is going to need transport somewhere tho - wouldn't it be nice if it didn't have to unnecessarily go via Ararat....
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

All of it is going to need transport somewhere tho - wouldn't it be nice if it didn't have to unnecessarily go via Ararat....
james.au
Looks like plenty of BG grain out of Charlton and Quambatook still, which will go via Ballarat and Gheringhap.

Mitiamo and Elmore looks good too (goes via Bendigo).
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
There is also a lot of grain in the Wakool silos.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

There is also a lot of grain in the Wakool silos.
bevans
And much of that has probably been sitting there since late-2016...

One thing is for sure - heaps of SG interstate grain next year between Vic and NSW given another failed harvest for most of that State.
  cbinyon Train Controller

Location: London, England
There is also a lot of grain in the Wakool silos.
And much of that has probably been sitting there since late-2016...

One thing is for sure - heaps of SG interstate grain next year between Vic and NSW given another failed harvest for most of that State.
Carnot
Any news on whether PN will run any BG grainies then?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
@Michelle12 has updated the sights through Bunbury Street this week.  

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2156813.htm#2156813

shows Qube have run an SG grain to Dunolly.  SG must now be available into the Silos?

Further the train is a regular and is arriving into Melbourne and then leaves for the North east.  

https://www.railpage.com.au/f-p2157035.htm#2157035
  damo64 Beginner

There is also a lot of grain in the Wakool silos.
bevans
I assume you are talking about Wakool NSW where the two silos are 3900t each. So not much storage when full and if they are still full, then the owners of the grain must know something about grain marketing that many others don't and refused to sell when record prices were available last harvest.
Little harvest last season and many wheat crops have been cut for hay this season.
On another note, as a indicator of the likelihood of this grain (if there is any there) being railed out, the rails have been removed from the Barham-Deniliquin Rd rail crossing.
Damian
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

A good summary here: https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/6452654/analysts-cut-further-winter-crop-tonnage-in-race-to-the-bottom/?cs=4598
Looks like a reasonable result for much of Vic and SA.  Although WA's crop is less than last year's bumper crop, they are still expecting to ship a large quantity of grain to the Eastern States.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Just following on from Carnots report, here's another from the Wimmera Farmer and or Facebook..

It's a bit of a swine, you really have to stalk both sites because they don't always feature articles in both.

State's soil sucked dry with spring handbrake.

RAIN has failed to meet crop demands across most of the state, forcing some farmers to make the call whether they cut crops for hay or gamble on a grain finish.

The Mallee had dried out quickly with a below-average rainfall for August and September.

Yield potential in the northern Mallee had fallen as the region grew on the limited deep residual soil moisture reserves deposited in summer.

Areas of the southern Mallee and north-east Wimmera, which received large falls in December 2018, report 25 to 40 per cent moisture with fantastic looking crops that should finish well.

I have only posted quotes regarding the Wimmera/Mallee, the linked article speaks about the whole state, bit of a mixed bag but the NE Wimmera and Southern Mallee, Donald,Birchip,Charlton and Wychepoo regions I guess seem to get a good report.
Crops that have been cut for hay, I reckon will still be worth a good $$$ with most going interstate I'd think.

https://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/6449683/states-soil-sucked-dry-with-spring-handbrake/?cs=3738

Roger, that.

BigShunter.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Okee Dokee, got a message today, GrainFlow Dimboola is open for bucket samples, which means farmers bring in a few samples of their ripest grain and it is tested for moisture and what ever else but at this stage it's the moisture content which has to be right, otherwise grain will go moldy.

Not sure of the moisture content these days, 10 years since I was the Big Controller....Razz... was 12% I think back then, james or someone will know.

As Donald, who lives at Donald ( duck country ) stated else where, hot northerly blowing across the Wimmera today, currently in Horsham 33deg and 40k breeze, gusting up to 48, Donald 33 but not as windy so the warm wind will soon have crops ready for the harvester.


So GrainCorp at Mutoa, Nhill and I guess up into the Mallee will be all systems go shortly.

BG I knew you'd be back, posts like this are just far too good to miss out on.............Wink

BigShunter.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Not sure of the moisture content these days, 10 years since I was the Big Controller....Razz... was 12% I think back then, james or someone will know.
BigShunter
Ask and ye shall receive!  Wheat below. See from page 19 onwards.

https://www.graintrade.org.au/sites/default/files/file/Commodity%20Standards/2018-2019/Section%2002%20-%20Wheat%20Trading%20Standards%20201819%20Final%20with%20WQA%20Master%20List.pdf

Moisture for wheat is max 12.5%.  For canola, I think it is 8%.
  cbinyon Train Controller

Location: London, England
Potentially big falls predicted over the next 48 hours, more in the mallee and north east than the wimmera district.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
Well with the harvest loomimg up rather quickly and dare I say all grain recieval sites would be ready for action, things sounding excellent for the Birchip area.

A year makes all the difference to crop prospects in Victorian Mallee.

Birchip farmer and Birchip Cropping Group chairman John Ferrier is looking forward to harvest this year after a disappointing season in 2018.

This year the summer rain, combined with good falls through autumn and early winter, set the crop up strongly enough to be able to contend with yet another poor spring.


With harvest looming fast and barley crops turning at present Mr Ferrier is confident of good results.

"I am optimistic we could see barley at 4t/ha, wheat at 3.5t/ha and canola at 2t/ha and the ability to be able to tap into that subsoil moisture has been critical in that."


https://www.theland.com.au/story/6457625/a-year-makes-all-the-difference-at-birchip/?cs=4937

Article from todays The Land newspaper.

BigShunter.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
Well with the harvest loomimg up rather quickly and dare I say all grain recieval sites would be ready for action, things sounding excellent for the Birchip area..
BigShunter
Good news for those farmers.
Much of the canola crop up north got cut for hay and ABC Landline reported that grain will continue to be imported going forward.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
The inch of rain in the past week has given farmers itchy feet.  Most were thinking of starting this week around here,  but the rain is delaying them a bit.
Stories are that 100 km radius from Donald,  the results will be really good compared to the rest of Vic.
  BigShunter Chief Commissioner

Location: St Clair. S.A.
A couple of links here for the Wimmera region, all sounding positive for the upcoming harvest.

Wimmera harvest 2019 Farmers remain positive for season despite low rainfall.

Farmers across the Wimmera are feeling positive for the 2019 harvest despite lower than average rainfalls in the region.

https://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/6483977/wimmera-farmers-remain-positive-ahead-of-harvest/?cs=225

This article regarding the regions rainfall becoming some what erratic, it would appear.........climate change you know...Rolling Eyes.. it would seem that heavy rainfalls are less frequent although if the the rainfall happens just when required, things can still shape up into a prosperous season.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/WimmeraMailTimes/posts/?ref=page_internal

Pinched from the Wimmera MailTimes.

BigShunter.
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

They are lovely links BS, but all I can see is the opening sentence which you put in your post. I assume the rest of the article is behnd a paywall?

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