Increase capacity 150%

 
  bomberswarm2 Locomotive Driver

Quadruplify the entire rail network. Run 3 tracks in peak direction. Partially re-establish the Jolimont yards to queue extra trains in the CBD until the end of peak hour, to avoid trying to put 60 trains an hour on the down track. Instantly rail network is increased 150%. Double deck Flinders St Station to get enough platforms. Problem solved. Why is this not what we're aiming for?

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  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Quadruplify the entire rail network. Run 3 tracks in peak direction. Partially re-establish the Jolimont yards to queue extra trains in the CBD until the end of peak hour, to avoid trying to put 60 trains an hour on the down track. Instantly rail network is increased 150%. Double deck Flinders St Station to get enough platforms. Problem solved. Why is this not what we're aiming for?
bomberswarm2
Answer: Money. In utopia you can solve anything, just how much you want to spend is the answer.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Quadruplify the entire rail network. Run 3 tracks in peak direction. Partially re-establish the Jolimont yards to queue extra trains in the CBD until the end of peak hour, to avoid trying to put 60 trains an hour on the down track. Instantly rail network is increased 150%. Double deck Flinders St Station to get enough platforms. Problem solved. Why is this not what we're aiming for?
bomberswarm2
Apart from the additional running lines do you mean, perhaps:

  • Restore at least part of the Jolimont Stabling Yard
  • Regain the platforms that have been given away, disused or otherwise trashed
  • Restore the flexibility of the system straight railed


We had all of these years ago but they were wrecked by our expert politicians and superb rail companies for money?
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
Quadruplify the entire rail network. Run 3 tracks in peak direction. Partially re-establish the Jolimont yards to queue extra trains in the CBD until the end of peak hour, to avoid trying to put 60 trains an hour on the down track. Instantly rail network is increased 150%. Double deck Flinders St Station to get enough platforms. Problem solved. Why is this not what we're aiming for?
bomberswarm2

Armchair Operator Question
  GoldenGirl Locomotive Fireman

Quadruplify the entire rail network. Run 3 tracks in peak direction. Partially re-establish the Jolimont yards to queue extra trains in the CBD until the end of peak hour, to avoid trying to put 60 trains an hour on the down track. Instantly rail network is increased 150%. Double deck Flinders St Station to get enough platforms. Problem solved. Why is this not what we're aiming for?
bomberswarm2
Good idea, and to accomplish this, Andrews can shut down the entire network while it is being done in order to speed up the process of conversion.....
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Why is this not what we're aiming for?
Bomberswarm2

Ok, I'll bite.

Quadruplicate the ENTIRE network.

This is ridiculously simplistic. Where to begin? For a start, many sections of the network already have 4 or more, do you suggest we make these sections 8 tracks or more, or leave them as they are? Secondly, there are many parts of the network where the alignment simply isn't wide enough to quadruplicate without compulsory acquisition of properties and public spaces (for example Footscray to Newport) or major earthworks (for example Upper Ferntree Gully to Belgrave). Thirdly, Why does the whole network even need to be quadruplicated? I can't ever foresee a need for 4 tracks between say Greensborough and Hurstbridge for an example.

On the other hand, Caulfield to Pakenham, Sunshine to Sunbury or Melton, yes, that has practical merit and is even realistically doable.

Partially reinstate Jolimont Yards.

Where do you suppose there is space for this? The land that the former Jolimont yards was on is gone, there are apartment buildings and a tennis centre in that location now. Do you propose we demolish these?

Double Deck Flinders St.

Why? Isn't the purpose of the Metro tunnel (and the proposed Metro 2) to untangle the network and decentralise so that not every single train starts and ends at the same point creating a mass bottle neck? Doesn't this negate the need for increased capacity at Flinders st?

Even if it didn't and we were to follow your inane plan of "Double decking Flinders St" How would that even work? Would you go down and have another 10 platforms underground (ignoring the fact that Flinders St is right alongside a river making it quite difficult to go underground in this fashion) or would you go up, placing another level of rail tracks above the current level, in which case it is hard to see how you could design such a station in any way that wouldn't see the entire destruction of the current station, which is one of Melbourne's most beloved icons.


And of course, all of that goes without mentioning the most obvious problems with your nuts plan:

a) How much would it cost?

b) How big of a workforce are you going to need on top of those already deployed on the multiple other infrastructure construction projects around the state?

c) Who is going to pay for it?

d) How much disruption is your master plan going to cause?

I look forward to our OP not bothering to reply to any scrutiny.

Now I need to take a shower to clean off the foam.

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