Great Southern Rail to launch Adelaide-Brisbane service

 
  DM45 Station Master

Location: Redland City
Train Alteration Advice (TAA), has been issued on the ARTC website for Journey Beyond's Great Southern Trips 1&2 so far. I've been looking on the MTP for the timetable but as this train is probably an ad hoc service over 2 months, it was listed in the TAA section.

I am booked on Trip 3, departing Adelaide on 18th Dec, so I imagine the timetable will be similar:

Train 6AT8 - Departs APT 0900, arrives Stawell 1548. Passengers detrain to travel to the Grampians. Train continues to Great Western Loop to stable.

Train arrives Ararat 2040 - Passengers board, departs 2055, travels through the night on ARTC track via Gheringhap Loop through to Seymour and across the border to arrive at Yass Junction 0930 Saturday. Passengers detrain to visit Canberra. Train continues on to stable at Goulburn.

Passengers board at Goulburn, departing 1750. Train continues overnight past Sydney onthe Freight Line and the Sydney Trains line in the north  to Maitland, where it branches on to the North Coast Line.  

Train arrives 0837 Sunday at Coffs Harbour where passengers detrain to sample the delights of the district. The train then travels north to stable at Coramba where it will terminate.  

Train 6608N  - Departs Coramba, travels south to Boambee Beach to stable and terminate.

Train 1TB8 - Departs Boambee Beach, travels north to Coffs Harbour. Passengers board, departing 1240. Train continues to Queensland via the Border Loop, into Acacia Ridge freight yard arriving at 1811, where passengers board coaches to the Customs House to await as yet undisclosed further travel arrangements.  


After reprovisioning, the train will depart Acacia Ridge on Monday as 2BT8 at a projected time of 1215.

The return trip is also listed on the TAA, along with the amended freight timetable changes.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Outward bound:
09:00 Fri Adelaide (board)
15:48 Fri Stawell (alight)
20:40 Fri Ararat (board)
09:30 Sat Yass Junc (alight)
17:50 Sat Goulburn (board)
08:37 Sun Coffs Harbour (alight)
12:25 Sun Coffs Harbour (board)
18:11 Sun Acacia Ridge

Return

12:15 Mon Acacia Ridge (board)
18:18 Mon Coffs Harbour (alight)
21:36 Mon Coffs Harbour (board)
08:45 Tue Maitland (alight)
?? ?? Tue (board)
10:45 Wed Broadmeadows (alight)
22:30 Wed Inverleigh (board)
09:30 Thu Adelaide (alight)
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
Outward bound:
09:00 Fri Adelaide (board)
15:48 Fri Stawell (alight)
20:40 Fri Ararat (board)
09:30 Sat Yass Junc (alight)
17:50 Sat Goulburn (board)
08:37 Sun Coffs Harbour (alight)
12:25 Sun Coffs Harbour (board)
18:11 Sun Acacia Ridge

Return

12:15 Mon Acacia Ridge (board)
18:18 Mon Coffs Harbour (alight)
21:36 Mon Coffs Harbour (board)
08:45 Tue Maitland (alight)
?? ?? Tue (board)
10:45 Wed Broadmeadows (alight)
22:30 Wed Inverleigh (board)
09:30 Thu Adelaide (alight)
bevans
Inverleigh ?
There's no station platform at Inverleigh (unless someone Is planing to build one)
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

They don't need one.

The Great Southern uses vehicles from the Ghan/IP fleet which have steps/ramps carried on board.
  DM45 Station Master

Location: Redland City
The Journey Beyond website shows that passengers on the Brisbane - Adelaide trip board at Broadmeadow after touring the Hunter district. Because Broadmeadow is on the Sydney Trains network, the time doesn't appear on the ARTC timetable. It appears to be about 81/2 hours after the stop at Maitland.
  BDA Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
I think you mean NSW trains network , Sydney trains don't run past Berowra .
  M636C Minister for Railways

I think you mean NSW trains network , Sydney trains don't run past Berowra .
BDA
Don't confuse me with someone who knows what is going on, but I understand that Sydney Trains actually owns the track as far as the ARTC (or John Holland) boundaries, regardless of whether Sydney Trains run trains that far. So Sydney Trains is the infrastructure owner replacing the former State Rail Authority.

I recall being taken aback some time ago to note that Sydney Trains were responsible for the repairs to the footbridge at Moss Vale (in ARTC territory). The Footbridge was closed for a few weeks and I think NSW Trainlink actually ran a bus from the foot of the steps to the station and back, connecting with trains so both operator's names were on the closure notice.

Peter
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
I think you mean NSW trains network , Sydney trains don't run past Berowra .
BDA

One and the same when it comes to track management.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
I think you mean NSW trains network , Sydney trains don't run past Berowra .
Don't confuse me with someone who knows what is going on, but I understand that Sydney Trains actually owns the track as far as the ARTC (or John Holland) boundaries, regardless of whether Sydney Trains run trains that far. So Sydney Trains is the infrastructure owner replacing the former State Rail Authority.

I recall being taken aback some time ago to note that Sydney Trains were responsible for the repairs to the footbridge at Moss Vale (in ARTC territory). The Footbridge was closed for a few weeks and I think NSW Trainlink actually ran a bus from the foot of the steps to the station and back, connecting with trains so both operator's names were on the closure notice.

Peter
M636C
IIRC its RailCorp no?  And it has differing agreements for the different parts of the network.  ARTC on long term lease of the DIRN, JH under 10 year contract for the CRN and ST in an integrated track/train arrangement of sorts?
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

RailCorp still exists purely as an entity which owns the assets, but the operator of the network (i.e. the entity that Journey Beyond would deal with in organising their access and scheduling) is Sydney Trains.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Correct. Though access invoices still are sent from and paid to RailCorp when using the ST network.
  DM45 Station Master

Location: Redland City
The first Great Southern trip arrived on time yesterdaywith NR31, NR30 and 28 carriages including 5 Platinum Class up front. It was difficult to identify any other coaches as the old viewing area behind the Acacia Ridge Hotel is now overgrown, so you have to peer between the trees. All coaches had Great Southern nameboards attached.

The train came to a halt just before the main entrance to the terminal in Kerry Road. The Platinum passengers were carried out in limousines first and some local passengers were dropped outside the gates to be picked up by family. I spoke to a staff member who advised that passengers were asked in Adelaide where they wish to be dropped off on arrival. The rest of the Gold Class passengers were taken to their destinations by coach.

This morning, all passengers will get breakfast at the Customs House before being transported to Acacia Ridge for departure at 1215.
  M636C Minister for Railways

NR31, NR30 and 28 carriages including 5 Platinum Class up front

Actually there were NINE platinum class cars

BRG 221D            platinum class

BRG 271A            platinum class

BRG 917J              platinum class

AFC 227A             lounge (ex CDF)

DF 226                   diner (ex CDF)

AFC 368F              lounge

BRG 999W           platinum class

BRG 267               platinum class

BRG 269               platinum class

Eight of these (all but AFC 368) were newly converted from BRJ Red class sleepers or CDF Red class lounges by CFCLA in Islington. I think this was their first trip in service. Unlike the "Southern Spirit" which used the Platinum class sleeping cars from "The Ghan" and the "Indian Pacific", these were cars converted particularly for this service.

The two CDFs had not been used since the removal of Red class.
The diner and lounge cars have Platinum class badges. 227 is understood to be a combined diner/lounge.

The gold class cars have been used on other trains.
Three BRJ class Red sleeping cars are used on this train as crew cars, and have Great Southern badges.

Peter
  Jack Le Lievre Assistant Commissioner

Location: Moolap Station, Vic
It is curious to see how many people are saying in various comment sections that people want JBRE to run Red Kangaroo Cars on this Sevice so that they too can experience the Service. I think we can safely say that this isn't going to happen, on this Service or any other of their "Premium" Services.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
All coaches had Great Southern nameboards attached.    
The rest of the Gold Class passengers were taken to their destinations by coach.
"DM45"
How many types of coach do you want?

Carriage and bus are perfectly correct terminology.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
All coaches had Great Southern nameboards attached.    
The rest of the Gold Class passengers were taken to their destinations by coach.
How many types of coach do you want?

Carriage and bus are perfectly correct terminology.
Valvegear
Bus, carriage, wagon, passenger etc etc are far, far too descriptive, unambiguous and meaningful for this day and age.
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
All coaches had Great Southern nameboards attached.    
The rest of the Gold Class passengers were taken to their destinations by coach.
How many types of coach do you want?

Carriage and bus are perfectly correct terminology.
Bus, carriage, wagon, passenger etc etc are far, far too descriptive, unambiguous and meaningful for this day and age.
YM-Mundrabilla

Man (or woman) provides useful information to RP, old farts say 'no thanks' and start 10 page grammar whingeathon.
  M636C Minister for Railways

All coaches had Great Southern nameboards attached
Depending upon your definition of "coach" as a rail vehicle, that might be correct.
The NPCCS (non passenger carrying coaching stock), the two HGM power vans and the HM mail van (used for linen and baggage) do not carry the train name badges. This is normal for JB and previously GSR trains, since it allows these vans to be interchanged more easily, particularly important in the case of the power vans.

Peter
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Man (or woman) provides useful information to RP, old farts say 'no thanks' and start 10 page grammar whingeathon.
"bingley hall"
Or the said old fart makes one suggestion to improve clarity. Incidentally, it's not about grammar - it's about the lexicon.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Man (or woman) provides useful information to RP, old farts say 'no thanks' and start 10 page grammar whingeathon.
Or the said old fart makes one suggestion to improve clarity. Incidentally, it's not about grammar - it's about the lexicon.
Valvegear
One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
Father in law who is losing/lost his marbles, was in the hospital recently and was offended to be placed in the geriatric ward, age 84!
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
"michaelgm"
Bing's reference was to YM and me. I can't speak for YM, but I'm 79. Maybe 70 is the old fart threshold?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
Bing's reference was to YM and me. I can't speak for YM, but I'm 79. Maybe 70 is the old fart threshold?
Valvegear
Personally I don't consider age to be a barrier, it is a state of mind! I am 2 or 3 decades younger than you young Valvegear but consider myself an old fart and plum proud of it. Maybe just honorary?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
Bing's reference was to YM and me. I can't speak for YM, but I'm 79. Maybe 70 is the old fart threshold?
Valvegear
At least we 'older members' know the difference between vocabulary and grammar.

In my 50 odd years on the job I have learned the difference between:

  • a car and a wagon
  • a passenger and a guest
  • a guest and a customer
  • a coach and a carriage
  • a 5-pack and a 5-unit
  • and a few other incidental odds and sods too ......................like the difference between a locomotive and a train a distinction which eludes so many YOUNG people.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
Bing's reference was to YM and me. I can't speak for YM, but I'm 79. Maybe 70 is the old fart threshold?
Personally I don't consider age to be a barrier, it is a state of mind! I am 2 or 3 decades younger than you young Valvegear but consider myself an old fart and plum proud of it. Maybe just honorary?
BrentonGolding
Nah, old farts and old moles were like that when they were 20. The just get worse as they get older. It's all a state of mind. I am 72 and still working full time.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Don't worry Bing.
Old age doesn't last - then you can say and do what you like. All you need is to be patient.

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