Great Southern Rail to launch Adelaide-Brisbane service

 
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
All coaches had Great Southern nameboards attached.    
The rest of the Gold Class passengers were taken to their destinations by coach.
How many types of coach do you want?

Carriage and bus are perfectly correct terminology.
Valvegear
Bus, carriage, wagon, passenger etc etc are far, far too descriptive, unambiguous and meaningful for this day and age.

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  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
All coaches had Great Southern nameboards attached.    
The rest of the Gold Class passengers were taken to their destinations by coach.
How many types of coach do you want?

Carriage and bus are perfectly correct terminology.
Bus, carriage, wagon, passenger etc etc are far, far too descriptive, unambiguous and meaningful for this day and age.
YM-Mundrabilla

Man (or woman) provides useful information to RP, old farts say 'no thanks' and start 10 page grammar whingeathon.
  M636C Minister for Railways

All coaches had Great Southern nameboards attached
Depending upon your definition of "coach" as a rail vehicle, that might be correct.
The NPCCS (non passenger carrying coaching stock), the two HGM power vans and the HM mail van (used for linen and baggage) do not carry the train name badges. This is normal for JB and previously GSR trains, since it allows these vans to be interchanged more easily, particularly important in the case of the power vans.

Peter
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Man (or woman) provides useful information to RP, old farts say 'no thanks' and start 10 page grammar whingeathon.
"bingley hall"
Or the said old fart makes one suggestion to improve clarity. Incidentally, it's not about grammar - it's about the lexicon.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Man (or woman) provides useful information to RP, old farts say 'no thanks' and start 10 page grammar whingeathon.
Or the said old fart makes one suggestion to improve clarity. Incidentally, it's not about grammar - it's about the lexicon.
Valvegear
One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
Father in law who is losing/lost his marbles, was in the hospital recently and was offended to be placed in the geriatric ward, age 84!
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
"michaelgm"
Bing's reference was to YM and me. I can't speak for YM, but I'm 79. Maybe 70 is the old fart threshold?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
Bing's reference was to YM and me. I can't speak for YM, but I'm 79. Maybe 70 is the old fart threshold?
Valvegear
Personally I don't consider age to be a barrier, it is a state of mind! I am 2 or 3 decades younger than you young Valvegear but consider myself an old fart and plum proud of it. Maybe just honorary?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
Bing's reference was to YM and me. I can't speak for YM, but I'm 79. Maybe 70 is the old fart threshold?
Valvegear
At least we 'older members' know the difference between vocabulary and grammar.

In my 50 odd years on the job I have learned the difference between:

  • a car and a wagon
  • a passenger and a guest
  • a guest and a customer
  • a coach and a carriage
  • a 5-pack and a 5-unit
  • and a few other incidental odds and sods too ......................like the difference between a locomotive and a train a distinction which eludes so many YOUNG people.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

One becomes a geriatric at age 65. What is the nominated age to be an old fart?
Bing's reference was to YM and me. I can't speak for YM, but I'm 79. Maybe 70 is the old fart threshold?
Personally I don't consider age to be a barrier, it is a state of mind! I am 2 or 3 decades younger than you young Valvegear but consider myself an old fart and plum proud of it. Maybe just honorary?
BrentonGolding
Nah, old farts and old moles were like that when they were 20. The just get worse as they get older. It's all a state of mind. I am 72 and still working full time.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Don't worry Bing.
Old age doesn't last - then you can say and do what you like. All you need is to be patient.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
I am 72 and still working full time.
nswtrains
Do you expect a medal for that? A good mate recently sold his business at 69 and retired. Within a few months he was dead. Whilst we cannot foresee the future, getting out of the workplace as early as you can and enjoying whatever is left of your life seems like the best idea to me!
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I am 72 and still working full time.
Do you expect a medal for that? A good mate recently sold his business at 69 and retired. Within a few months he was dead. Whilst we cannot foresee the future, getting out of the workplace as early as you can and enjoying whatever is left of your life seems like the best idea to me!
Graham4405
I don't see that NSWTRAINS is asking for, nor expecting, a medal. He is fortunate in being able to continue working given that just about everything is stacked against doing so these days. I trust that is experience is of benefit to his employer.

The bloody place might not be in such a mess in so many ways if there were a few more people who had 'been there and done that' to mentor the next generation thereby providing a level of corporate memory and culture so lacking these days.
  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
Anyone know why they use the freight terminal and not Roma Street station?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Anyone know why they use the freight terminal and not Roma Street station?
railblogger
Someone posted previously not available due to construction work.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Anyone know why they use the freight terminal and not Roma Street station?
Someone posted previously not available due to construction work.
RTT_Rules
I know that no photos have been posted, but...
The train is 28 cars long....
It made two stops at Yass Junction and the last few Gold class cars were still beyond the platform.
And the two locomotives, HGM, BRJ and HM were beyond the platform at the first stop.
Roma Street is not set up for trains that big on standard gauge.

This isn't a record, the first "Ghan" to Darwin had 40 or more cars (Bing will know).

But it is longer than the platform at Roma Street.

Peter
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Anyone know why they use the freight terminal and not Roma Street station?
Someone posted previously not available due to construction work.
I know that no photos have been posted, but...
The train is 28 cars long....
It made two stops at Yass Junction and the last few Gold class cars were still beyond the platform.
And the two locomotives, HGM, BRJ and HM were beyond the platform at the first stop.
Roma Street is not set up for trains that big on standard gauge.

This isn't a record, the first "Ghan" to Darwin had 40 or more cars (Bing will know).

But it is longer than the platform at Roma Street.

Peter
M636C
Thanks, basically double Plat 2 length.

For those wondering, I sort of worked out that if the loco's were on the buffers the last car would be just out of the tunnel. Roma St just isn't made for these trains and people call for return of GSR trains to Adelaide city station.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Anyone know why they use the freight terminal and not Roma Street station?
Someone posted previously not available due to construction work.
I know that no photos have been posted, but...
The train is 28 cars long....
It made two stops at Yass Junction and the last few Gold class cars were still beyond the platform.
And the two locomotives, HGM, BRJ and HM were beyond the platform at the first stop.
Roma Street is not set up for trains that big on standard gauge.

This isn't a record, the first "Ghan" to Darwin had 40 or more cars (Bing will know).

But it is longer than the platform at Roma Street.

Peter
Thanks, basically double Plat 2 length.

For those wondering, I sort of worked out that if the loco's were on the buffers the last car would be just out of the tunnel. Roma St just isn't made for these trains and people call for return of GSR trains to Adelaide city station.
RTT_Rules
Even in Central this train would have to be broken in two.  Its a big train...
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
NR30 looking great on the Great Southern



https://www.railpage.com.au/photos/107092

and

https://www.railpage.com.au/photos/107091
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville



This isn't a record, the first "Ghan" to Darwin had 40 or more cars (Bing will know).

Peter
M636C

The ABC report for the day says 2 locos + 44 vehicles.

Unfortunately, despite the fact I chased and photograph the this first Darwin run from Adelaide through to Yorkeys Crossing (Port Augusta) I'm pretty slack at recording such minutiae.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW



This isn't a record, the first "Ghan" to Darwin had 40 or more cars (Bing will know).

Peter
The ABC report for the day says 2 locos + 44 vehicles.

Unfortunately, despite the fact I chased and photograph the this first Darwin run from Adelaide through to Yorkeys Crossing (Port Augusta) I'm pretty slack at recording such minutiae.
bingley hall
You run out of fingers and toes at 20, a second round of them is 40 but those last 4/6 are just too many huh Bing? Smile
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Even in Central this train would have to be broken in two.  Its a big train...
james.au

There is no SG at Central and even if there was I don't think the platforms are even that long!
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Even in Central this train would have to be broken in two.  Its a big train...

There is no SG at Central and even if there was I don't think the platforms are even that long!
Graham4405
No SG at Central? OK.
  DM45 Station Master

Location: Redland City
When I visited the arrival of the first train at Acacia Ridge last Sunday, the unloading process appeared to be pretty seamless, with no truck traffic through the terminal. It remains to be seen how the Monday departure process was achieved with traffic moving about. However, the train arrivals & departures don't appear to interfere. There should be plenty of room on other roads to unload & shunt.

Trains into ACR Sunday:                          Trains out of ACR on Monday:

NT31  0435 (XPT passing)                        NT32 0613 (XPT passing)

7MB4  0546                                                2BT8 1215  (Great Southern)

7SB1  0800                                                 2BM4 1920

1TB8  1816 (Great Southern)                   2BW4 2150

7WB3 2110

6AB6  2350

Maybe Journey Beyond will continue to use Acacia Ridge next year, depending on customer survey outcomes. The Hole Under The River project is going to be a long one, and I can't imagine 200 odd passengers being let loose at Roma St while it is still a
construction area.

The XPT still uses Platform 3 but its only there for an hour or so with less than a hundred passengers.

The Southern Spirit fitted into Roma St but it was only 13 vehicles including locos.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Based on the 28 cars previously mentioned, the consist length would have amounted to 667.1 metres assuming that all vehicles were of the standard 'Indian Pacific' (IP) length of 78'2" inside couplers (23.825 metres x 28 = 667.1).
Adding two locomotives at ~22 metres each makes a train length of ~ 711 metres.

Longer (abnormal) trains ran back in the CR days on 24 September 1973 westbound and 27 September 1973 eastbound when CL 12 and GM 8 (westbound) hauled a 31 car consist plus an RM class container flat for a 'passenger consist' length of 736 metres. Adding the RM class flat at ~ 21 metres totals 757 metres.

If one wants a total train length for these trains add a CL and a four-motor GM for about another 38 metres making a grand total of just under 800 metres.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Even in Central this train would have to be broken in two.  Its a big train...

There is no SG at Central and even if there was I don't think the platforms are even that long!
Graham4405
Ha sorry Graham - I meant the NSW Central!!

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