Other thoughts - would Geelong high speed involve 25kv AC on SG line (duplicated), all the way to Newport, then 1500V DC on dual gauge inside tunnel to City?You're talking too much sense here, it won't wash in Bureaucracy Land
I can barely make head nor tail of that article. So high speed Geetroit trains stuck behind Metro services? Seriously?In a weird-a-bout way it sort of makes sense.
I can barely make head nor tail of that article. So high speed Geetroit trains stuck behind Metro services? Seriously?
https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/tunnel-link-mulled-for-geelong-fast-trainsThis is DOT trying to match up what the Federal Liberals want to fund, which is regional services to west of Geelong to sure up Corangamite, with projects that they want to build, which is Metro II and the City Loop reconfigurations. Get the feds to fund the start of that tunnel, lump in Geelong improvements and bam, everyone wins politically but potentially not the best actual option for passengers.
A possible leak from the MARL business case for “alternative options” Can’t see it happening. Half via Metro 2, Half via Sunshine. Will be a dog’s breakfast
That would enable Mernda-Werribee to actually become Mernda-Sunshine via Werribee and Melton metros to run Melton all stations to Sunshine then follow the same stopping pattern as Vlines currently do into the city.
That's how it's been on all of the NDPs but if MARL is back on MM1, Geelong paths are rerouted elsewhere, you can balance things out between the two track pairs.That would enable Mernda-Werribee to actually become Mernda-Sunshine via Werribee and Melton metros to run Melton all stations to Sunshine then follow the same stopping pattern as Vlines currently do into the city.
Wouldn't Melton line trains use the Metro Tunnel? It makes more sense for them to use the Metro Tunnel and Airport line trains use RRL (if necessary) or just use the Metro Tunnel as well as per the Network Development Plan.
nice one @tayser, more than 2c, worth $2 at least.
Apart from adding a fifth platform at Sunshine and grade separating the RRL side (so down Bendigos don't conflict with up Ballarat/Melton/Warrnambool), the major work is in Albion and Deer Park.
- I would send the Melton Metro down MM1 also, taking up the slots you stated for West Footscray short stoppers. How that translates into cross-over is awkward but.
Sunshine-Footscray SAS journeys take 9 minutes at present, express journeys take 6 minutes. Track speed is 80kph for the entire length (comparison: RRL track from the first curve out of Sunshine to West Footscray is 130kph and then 80kph to last curve into Footscray which is 70kph - the journey for that takes 5 minutes).Track line speed is, or at least used to be and I don't know why it would have changed, based on signal distancing; obviously curves are a different matter. If HCMT's are used with HCS (High Capacity Signalling) the line speed could (should?) be increased reasonably easily. If HCMT are the only trains used on that line, or alternatively fit HCS to other trains that will use it, then there should be nothing to keep the speed limit where it is currently, except where essential like the curves.
Boosting Sunshine - West Footscray metro track speed to 100kph would be beneficial for SAS and express services (probably shave 30 seconds or so off the express journey).
As Daniel Bowen pointed out on his blog yesterday, this (Geelong via Newport/Metro 2) was all on the leaked network plan in 2018, so shouldn't be too much of a surprise. Although that plan didn't include any SRL:Agreed, I have heard about the traps that planning has already begun for the Metro 2 tunnel which given the above shouldn't come as a surprise.
@Lockie could you edit the post to enlarge the font please.
We maybe calling it a giant gold plated waste of money we don’t need now, in 20 years time it will be the most essential pieces of transport infrastructure in Victoria. Allowing true metro services to the entirety of the Western Suburbs, Reliable Intercity services and an Airport service, all of which are segregated and independent. The later being why the government is not keen to
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