Scott Morrison's imploding act

 

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  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
ONP will still never get my vote.  Too fringe still.  Always will be.

As for the Libs and Nats, I like people like Andrew Hastie and James Patterson who are unafraid to speak up about the abuses of the CCP.
Carnot
Those people are getting hounded within their own party for their views though - there's a lot of pressure on them to just shut-the-hell-up about China. But there's absolutely nobody on the Labor side who shows the same scepticism; you'd have to assume that the whole party has been captured by the Chinese Communist Party. As if to reinforce that assumption, former NSW Labor upper house MP Earnest Wong told the Independent Commission Against Corruption yesterday that he didn't have a clue what money he was handing out to who or even where it had come from - ABC;

Ernest Wong was today called back to give evidence at the Independent Commission Against Corruption (ICAC) regarding a 2015 Chinese Friends of Labor dinner.

He claimed he suffered "an alcoholic blackout" at the event and could not be certain about his handling of a bag containing tens of thousands of dollars in cash.

The ICAC is investigating whether the party disguised a $100,000 donation from exiled property developer Huang Xiangmo by dividing it into smaller amounts made by other donors.

Mr Wong, who was in charge of allocating tables and maintaining a register of attendees, today admitted he gave restaurateur Jonathan Yee $3,000 as "a gift" to help him put aside tables and encourage more people to attend.

He was drunk and handing out bags of cash that he subsequently didn't recall - why wasn't I invited to that party! Seriously though, how crooked is the NSW Labor Party - gifts from Chinese billionaires, communist party money sloshing around the joint. No wonder the NSW public couldn't vote for them earlier this year at the state election.

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  Carnot Minister for Railways

Talking of China, how's this for intimidation by the CCP using fake police vehicles within our own borders.  We are so impotent against them:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7782825/US-ambassador-Australia-accuses-China-harassing-Uighur-Muslim-community.html

Nice to see some groundswell to protest outside Vic Parliament this Sunday too against the Belt and Road program:
https://www.facebook.com/events/parliament-house-melbourne/anti-belt-and-road-demonstration/2548728075357914/
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Talking of China, how's this for intimidation by the CCP using fake police vehicles within our own borders.  We are so impotent against them:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7782825/US-ambassador-Australia-accuses-China-harassing-Uighur-Muslim-community.html

Nice to see some groundswell to protest outside Vic Parliament this Sunday too against the Belt and Road program:
https://www.facebook.com/events/parliament-house-melbourne/anti-belt-and-road-demonstration/2548728075357914/
Carnot
The fact that we allow the Chinese Communist Party pretty much free reign to intimidate the local ethnic Chinese population is completely pathetic and a sign of how complicit we've become with the communists. Chinese people who have moved here should expect the full force of our laws to protect them from that behaviour but we're failing miserably.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

Talking of China, how's this for intimidation by the CCP using fake police vehicles within our own borders.  We are so impotent against them:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7782825/US-ambassador-Australia-accuses-China-harassing-Uighur-Muslim-community.html

Nice to see some groundswell to protest outside Vic Parliament this Sunday too against the Belt and Road program:
https://www.facebook.com/events/parliament-house-melbourne/anti-belt-and-road-demonstration/2548728075357914/
The fact that we allow the Chinese Communist Party pretty much free reign to intimidate the local ethnic Chinese population is completely pathetic and a sign of how complicit we've become with the communists. Chinese people who have moved here should expect the full force of our laws to protect them from that behaviour but we're failing miserably.
don_dunstan
Chinese reds under our beds!!! The Chinese fake police cars had nothing to do with the Chines communists. All seems a Murdoch press beat up to me except where it concerns the Liberal party who are just as bad.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
The fact that we allow the Chinese Communist Party pretty much free reign to intimidate the local ethnic Chinese population is completely pathetic and a sign of how complicit we've become with the communists. Chinese people who have moved here should expect the full force of our laws to protect them from that behaviour but we're failing miserably.
Chinese reds under our beds!!! The Chinese fake police cars had nothing to do with the Chines communists. All seems a Murdoch press beat up to me except where it concerns the Liberal party who are just as bad.
nswtrains
You've made that baseless assertion before - there's plenty of evidence that the Labor Party got white-anted by communist money probably ever since Eddie Obied; gotta say there's not nearly as much evidence on the LNP side. Different donors and power-base but not a lot of evidence of foreign money on the same scale as the ALP.

The Labor Party is collectively rubbish; doesn't matter how many purges they have they seem to get rotten immediately like a cheap sponge.
  C2 Junior Train Controller

Diddent the Chinese Navy sail into Sydney Harbour unhounced  because our Prime Minister thought it not very important to tell us. Then the Chines Navy bought all the Breast Milk Formula in Sydney and freely put it ionto the battle ship with no Customs or tax or Anything. Hmm I'm a little scared and it's not a strong signal  to show the USA or China either.. Don't remember the Chinese invading Australia 800 years ago and saying  terranulis and murdering women and children for sheep and cow's to live on either. It's the Indians who are a worry to me.
  ANR Chief Commissioner

Breast milk formula? Sounds like the PLAN need nourishment.

As it turns out, they (Chinese 'corporations') are buying up our dairy producers, and not only their products. At least someone recognises the real value of our dairy Operations and the great job our underpaid farmers do.
  C2 Junior Train Controller

Here's an idea, we poor smokers pay alot in tax. But can I find anyone that will pay full price for milk or buy Australian, Clean, Proud and Fair Produce... Tax is money for nothing and if spent correctly can double in value.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Diddent the Chinese Navy sail into Sydney Harbour unhounced  because our Prime Minister thought it not very important to tell us. Then the Chines Navy bought all the Breast Milk Formula in Sydney and freely put it ionto the battle ship with no Customs or tax or Anything. Hmm I'm a little scared and it's not a strong signal  to show the USA or China either.. Don't remember the Chinese invading Australia 800 years ago and saying  terranulis and murdering women and children for sheep and cow's to live on either. It's the Indians who are a worry to me.
C2
Mass migration is pushing down wages and living standards for average Australians - as discussed further by this government relations and policy expert from Barton Deakin, David Alexander -The Australian

Many of the policy themes of recent years echo those of earlier eras. Labour-importing businesses argue that they shouldn’t be expected to pay market rates for labour, and on this basis deem there to be labour shortages that government must assist with. These businesses have increased competitiveness against those that do not use cheaper imported labour, and this is contributing to the structure of industries such as agriculture reverting to a more manorial model...

...Is it reasonable to deem a labour shortage on the basis of declining to pay the market rate? Should government give a structural advantage to labour-importing firms vis-a-vis local-employing firms? And, ultimately, is our aim still to be a high-wage country or should we have Australian wages arbitraged to converge with poorer countries?

I think its pretty obvious that we're headed for a low-skill, low-wage economy despite all that rubbish from Hawke and Keating about us being a high-wage "clever country". Wages for most private sector workers haven't budged in eight years and people are responding by refusing to spend money en masse. We can see it manifesting in the retail recession, the shrinking per capita GDP output and the increasing numbers of people claiming Centrelink support despite working.

We are at end-stage neo-Thatcherism now where the bottom half will be pushed into hand-to-mouth abject poverty thanks to record immigration.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Don, the LNP consistently ramble on about their economic plan, and they are sticking to it.
Perhaps it's a crap plan. Not forgetting having been on the job since 2013.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
The Labor Party is collectively rubbish; doesn't matter how many purges they have they seem to get rotten immediately like a cheap sponge.
don_dunstan
Don, if this was redneck radio you'd be the perennial "I'll never vote Labor again" caller Rolling Eyes
You obviously prefer the side of politics (L/NP, Republicans) that exist for the protection and advancement of the very well off, who believe government exists to keep order and maintain the status quo in respect of power and wealth. Then you keep banging on about how the average workers are so hard done by.
You're either confused to put it politely, or a fraud.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
]ONP will still never get my vote.  Too fringe still.  Always will be.

As for the Libs and Nats, I like people like Andrew Hastie and James Patterson who are unafraid to speak up about the abuses of the CCP.
Carnot
ONP exists because 2 decades ago the Liberal Party didn't want to be associated with her.

Rhetoric is what it is. Backbenchers have a useful political role playing to the domestic audience so that those who matter (Cabinet Ministers) don't have to. They don't chuck a Trump.

If a Liberal or National Party minister stands up in Beijing and lectures them on Human Rights, that's when it counts.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
The Labor Party is collectively rubbish; doesn't matter how many purges they have they seem to get rotten immediately like a cheap sponge.
Don, if this was redneck radio you'd be the perennial "I'll never vote Labor again" caller Rolling Eyes
You obviously prefer the side of politics (L/NP, Republicans) that exist for the protection and advancement of the very well off, who believe government exists to keep order and maintain the status quo in respect of power and wealth. Then you keep banging on about how the average workers are so hard done by.
You're either confused to put it politely, or a fraud.
Groundrelay
NO. You think I have to vote LNP because I hate the Labor Party? In your narrow mind I guess there's only two choices, eh.

I want the so-called Labor Party to step up. But they won't, they've destroyed the economic independence of their own consistency by evil neo-Thatcherite Hawke/Keating era and now nobody can vote for them any more. They're corrupted by big money, Chinese communist party money - they protect multinationals. They don't stand for anything whatsoever that the LNP don't already stand for.

They're in terminal decline wedged somewhere between wanting to be seen to protect traditional working class people (after they're destroyed and off-shored all their jobs) and trying to pretend they're the Greens. Witness Albo this week touring Central Queensland telling voters on the one hand of the need for Australia to stop mining coal but on the other hand he doesn't want to condemn coal-miners to working in low-pay service industry jobs.

I have never voted LNP in my life and I'm not about to start now, but there simply isn't anyone else to vote for in parliament apart from One Nation and the independents. The Australian Labor Party is un-electable and in terminal decline.

Want to see the future? Look at what happened to Jeremy Corbyn - Labour in the UK is going to become a minor party, not even fit to hold official 'opposition' status any longer.

Terminally confused, insincere and nobody is listening. The sooner the ALP burns to the ground the better, then maybe something will emerge truly representative of the hand-to-mouth people in this country instead of a party that doesn't know if its green, left, right, commie-hugging, nationalistic, pro-coal, anti-coal, Keynesian, progressive, whatever. The ALP have failed, time for them to go.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
The ALP have failed, time for them to go.
don_dunstan
I'm beginning to enjoy the thought of you frothing away as you belt out another couple of paragraphs.

There are only two sides of politics in Australia. As soon as either the Coalition or ALP have a majority in the senate the rest don't matter. Compare the legislative history of both sides, what they supported and what they opposed. The latest example was the bill to provide greater transparency into age care expenditure. Predicably it was opposed by the LNP and your great white hope.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
The ALP have failed, time for them to go.
I'm beginning to enjoy the thought of you frothing away as you belt out another couple of paragraphs.

There are only two sides of politics in Australia. As soon as either the Coalition or ALP have a majority in the senate the rest don't matter. Compare the legislative history of both sides, what they supported and what they opposed. The latest example was the bill to provide greater transparency into age care expenditure. Predicably it was opposed by the LNP and your great white hope.
Groundrelay
I really doubt if that will ever happen again (ie a major party gets a majority in the senate). If anything the political volitility of the last decade has shown us that the major parties influence is waning. Wasn't Labor's primary vote the lowest ever at the last election? This situation is going to get worse for the major parties, not better.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
The ALP have failed, time for them to go.
I'm beginning to enjoy the thought of you frothing away as you belt out another couple of paragraphs.

There are only two sides of politics in Australia. As soon as either the Coalition or ALP have a majority in the senate the rest don't matter. Compare the legislative history of both sides, what they supported and what they opposed. The latest example was the bill to provide greater transparency into age care expenditure. Predicably it was opposed by the LNP and your great white hope.
I really doubt if that will ever happen again (ie a major party gets a majority in the senate). If anything the political volitility of the last decade has shown us that the major parties influence is waning. Wasn't Labor's primary vote the lowest ever at the last election? This situation is going to get worse for the major parties, not better.
don_dunstan
Cross benchers are rarely impartial so it almost always comes back to sides.
Just need to fix the Senate voting system. It's not like any would have any hope of getting a Reps seat.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I really doubt if that will ever happen again (ie a major party gets a majority in the senate). If anything the political volitility of the last decade has shown us that the major parties influence is waning. Wasn't Labor's primary vote the lowest ever at the last election? This situation is going to get worse for the major parties, not better.
Cross benchers are rarely impartial so it almost always comes back to sides.
Just need to fix the Senate voting system. It's not like any would have any hope of getting a Reps seat.
Groundrelay
So you want to make the system less democratic so that the Labor Party gets more members, what a surprise. People don't want the stinking old Labor Party any more - Labor's primary vote was in the mid-thirties last election. Almost two thirds of the country don't want them, they want something else. Typical of old rusted on stalwarts like you to claim to know what's best for people - more Labor Party, the exact thing they've been voting against.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
I really doubt if that will ever happen again (ie a major party gets a majority in the senate). If anything the political volitility of the last decade has shown us that the major parties influence is waning. Wasn't Labor's primary vote the lowest ever at the last election? This situation is going to get worse for the major parties, not better.
Cross benchers are rarely impartial so it almost always comes back to sides.
Just need to fix the Senate voting system. It's not like any would have any hope of getting a Reps seat.
So you want to make the system less democratic so that the Labor Party gets more members, what a surprise. People don't want the stinking old Labor Party any more - Labor's primary vote was in the mid-thirties last election. Almost two thirds of the country don't want them, they want something else. Typical of old rusted on stalwarts like you to claim to know what's best for people - more Labor Party, the exact thing they've been voting against.
don_dunstan
You're frothing again Razz

Why would it create more ALP senators? Surely if people loved the 'born to rule' lot and their wannabes, your mob would always control the senate and you'd be in heaven.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

I really doubt if that will ever happen again (ie a major party gets a majority in the senate). If anything the political volitility of the last decade has shown us that the major parties influence is waning. Wasn't Labor's primary vote the lowest ever at the last election? This situation is going to get worse for the major parties, not better.
Cross benchers are rarely impartial so it almost always comes back to sides.
Just need to fix the Senate voting system. It's not like any would have any hope of getting a Reps seat.
So you want to make the system less democratic so that the Labor Party gets more members, what a surprise. People don't want the stinking old Labor Party any more - Labor's primary vote was in the mid-thirties last election. Almost two thirds of the country don't want them, they want something else. Typical of old rusted on stalwarts like you to claim to know what's best for people - more Labor Party, the exact thing they've been voting against.
You're frothing again Razz

Why would it create more ALP senators? Surely if people loved the 'born to rule' lot and their wannabes, your mob would always control the senate and you'd be in heaven.
Groundrelay
Scott Morrison to end Hawaii holiday early, says he 'deeply regrets' any offence caused over leave. I will post this without any comment. The post says it all!!!!!
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
How things have changed in one week!

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has said the Government is "not going to make any knee-jerk responses" to the growing bushfire catastrophe, despite calls for compensation for firefighters.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-23/scott-morrison-anthony-albanese-bushfires-meeting/11823128

Volunteer firefighters in New South Wales will be able to apply for up to $6,000 in compensation from the Federal Government, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced.
But Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese said volunteer firefighters from all states should be able to access financial compensation for their efforts, not just those from New South Wales.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-29/scott-morrison-announces-volunteer-firefighter-compensation/11830758

Hardly surprising. They and their supporters will take all the socialism they can get if it benefits them directly or it becomes politically advantageous. Barnaby rants on about getting government off farmers' backs yet they expect government assistance. It's all about socialising the loses whilst pocketing profits.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has said the Government is "not going to make any knee-jerk responses."  

Take out the words "knee-jerk" and you're getting near it.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

VG, Remove knee and responses and you're nearer the mark.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
You're frothing again Razz

Why would it create more ALP senators? Surely if people loved the 'born to rule' lot and their wannabes, your mob would always control the senate and you'd be in heaven.
Groundrelay
ANY senate reform is about reducing the power of the minor parties - neither major party is interested in anything that will dilute their power any further. It ain't rocket science, they did exactly this in 2015.

At least the LNP is honest about not caring about workers, the Labor Party pretends to care in public but in reality couldn't care less. They despise people who work for a living - that's why they're still in opposition after six years of bitter infighting in the LNP and three Prime Ministers.

Like I said, the ALP have become vapid and corrupt that I have doubts about them ever being elected to office again.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
At least the LNP is honest about not caring about workers,
don_dunstan
Good then vote to keep the LNP in power but enough of this fraudulent, I'm balanced BS.
the Labor Party pretends to care in public but in reality couldn't care less. They despise people who work for a living - that's why they're still in opposition after six years of bitter infighting in the LNP and three Prime Ministers.

Like I said, the ALP have become vapid and corrupt that I have doubts about them ever being elected to office again.
don_dunstan
I don't suffer political PTSD so I don't need to bang out volumes bagging one side over the other. I'm fully aware of what both do when they're in power, what they support and what they oppose.
Whichever party is in power you get the package, not one single identity or policy.
  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

You're frothing again Razz

Why would it create more ALP senators? Surely if people loved the 'born to rule' lot and their wannabes, your mob would always control the senate and you'd be in heaven.
ANY senate reform is about reducing the power of the minor parties - neither major party is interested in anything that will dilute their power any further. It ain't rocket science, they did exactly this in 2015.

At least the LNP is honest about not caring about workers, the Labor Party pretends to care in public but in reality couldn't care less. They despise people who work for a living - that's why they're still in opposition after six years of bitter infighting in the LNP and three Prime Ministers.

Like I said, the ALP have become vapid and corrupt that I have doubts about them ever being elected to office again.
don_dunstan
But the LNP have only a one seat majority. A lot could happen to see that evaporate. They might seem smug on the outside, but on the inside they are very nervous. Keep an eye on Dutton. Your comments about the ALP being un electable are just plain sillly.

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