3801 Boiler and it's return to operation

 
  a6et Minister for Railways

From what I have read on similar threads in the past the power reversers seemed to be well liked by crew

On your comment on the 38 and 59 class, that would make sense, the power reversers having been donated to the pigs by retired 38s and 57s
DCook
You have to understand the big difference really was with the shunting. Both reverser types had 19turns full forward to back and the opposite direction.  When working pick up services and the primary engines were prior to the 59cl with a lot less turns and lighter lift, were either normal 36 or 38class. On 3 primary services, 256, 78 and 392 up pick ups that spend 2 or more hours shunting at Moss Vale, Berrima and other locations on the way to Enfield and each train had designated destinations that required shunting at, having to shunt those hours on full forward and reverse, ended up with Goulburn and Enfield enginemen banning them on the pick ups, there were also changes to some down through trains that became nothing more than pick up types at Clyde and to Berrima, Medway and other yards on the way.

That is why the number of pigs were put into storage at Enfield, until the shortage of loco's was critical and the so called Indian summer of steam returned primarily as the 422cl were late in deliveries. 3638 was the first to be tested with the air reversers, and its first main line roster was on 31mixed from Central to Goulburn, it shunted the milk pots off at Bowral, Moss Vale and through to Glbn before returning on 256 pick that morning, the crews certainly found it good but very hesitant at first until they found the different reverser fitted. Local union reps ok'd it and then others were fitted including 42, 51, 54. along with several others for through train working.  While those pigs were out of service Enfield had 6 59cl extra allocated to it for southern working including the pick ups, but care had to be taken owing to the short water capacity on them, once they left Enfield they had to be given a through run to Picton when the water was cut off there with the electrification work being carried out.

Point is, the 36cl were vg loco's some duds like any other member of any class, they were simply not pleasant and hard work for the driver especially with performing work such as found on those pick ups even on the west where they filled a big role, they were last resorts for pick ups for that reason and why freighters or 38cl were more usual on them.

If say 16 or 09 were returned to service they would be pretty much performing the work they were designed for at that being exp and through passenger or fast goods working. As such the original reversers were fine.

There was no such thing as a power reverser, those fitted to the 36, 38, 57, 58cl were air assisted with its own regulator valve on it, which is what you hear when the reverser is used, especially when fully reversed or to the middle, if that regulator air valve ceased and you had to turn it off,, then you were no better off than the original type owing to the weight of links, the garrat's had steam assisted reversers.

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  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I like the black tender. (Just stirring).Smile
It certainly sounds sharp.
  Sidewinder Locomotive Fireman

Is there a list of dates and locations where 01 will be out and about during it's testing?
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
Is there a list of dates and locations where 01 will be out and about during it's testing?
Sidewinder

Nope, it doesn't even come up on anytrip
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
Some more good footage of yesterday's testing at different locations by DG productions


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJc99Pe-FO8
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I like the black tender. (Just stirring).Smile
It certainly sounds sharp.
YM-Mundrabilla
There is one way to make it look even better, By pushing the axels out 6.5 inches Razz.

(Sniggers)
  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
There is one way to make it look even better, By pushing the axels out 5 inches Razz.

(Sniggers)
Dangersdan707
Who uses 5 foot 1.5 inch gauge?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
There is one way to make it look even better, By pushing the axels out 6.5 inches Razz.

(Sniggers)
Who uses 5 foot 1.5 inch gauge?
apw5910
My backyard.Razz Maths was always my strong point.
  7334 Chief Commissioner

Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
There is one way to make it look even better, By pushing the axels out 6.5 inches Razz.

(Sniggers)
Who uses 5 foot 1.5 inch gauge?
My backyard.Razz Maths was always my strong point.
Dangersdan707
So was spelling - it's AXLE
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
There is one way to make it look even better, By pushing the axels out 5 inches Razz.

(Sniggers)
Who uses 5 foot 1.5 inch gauge?
apw5910
Umm, 4'8½" + 6½" = 5'3" surely?
  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
The joke is falling a bit flat now because the original post has been re-edited from 5 to 6.5 inches.

Btw, that was the title of the book about the original Melbourne-Wodonga line, "Six and a half inches from Destiny."
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Btw, that was the title of the book about the original Melbourne-Wodonga line, "Six and a half inches from Destiny."
"apw5910"
An excellent book by Keith Turton. My copy is well thumbed.
  7334 Chief Commissioner

Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
Btw, that was the title of the book about the original Melbourne-Wodonga line, "Six and a half inches from Destiny."
An excellent book by Keith Turton. My copy is well thumbed.
Valvegear
It ain't the only one!
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
So I assume that we may be seeing it at the thirlmere festival of steam and the hunter valley steamfest
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
On the THNSW facebook page, on the post about one of the mainline trials is a comment asking THNSW "when will 3801 will go to Thirlmere", THNSW replied that it would be moved there on Thursday
Can anyone confirm if this is true or not
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
On the THNSW facebook page, on the post about one of the mainline trials is a comment asking THNSW "when will 3801 will go to Thirlmere", THNSW replied that it would be moved there on Thursday
Can anyone confirm if this is true or not
DCook
Will now be Friday sometime, as there will be a Total Fire Ban in Sydney tomorrow, with 40 + degrees expected.
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
It hasn't done much testing so I assume it is going to thirlmere to get painted
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
Some good footage of the second day of mainline trials recorded by Sydney Trains Vlogs at Leightonfield station
3801 passes through at 4:33 and 16:46



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whkO1eoEpF8
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
Can anyone confirm if the thirlmere transfer is still scheduled to go ahead today or has it been moved to another date
  apw5910 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Location: Location.
Can anyone confirm if the thirlmere transfer is still scheduled to go ahead today or has it been moved to another date
DCook
This was posted a couple of hours ago on THNSW's facebook, so I suppose it's going ahead:

LOCOMOTIVE 3801 RETURNS TO THE NSW RAIL MUSEUM
Historic steam locomotive 3801 will today return to its home at the

Shortly after 10.30am, the locomotive will depart Chullora under its own power and make its way to Thirlmere, passing through Chester Hill, Cabramatta, Liverpool, Glenfield, Campbelltown and Picton.
The engine will be hauling a 1950’s era diesel locomotive, and a carriage with volunteers and staff involved in the restoration, the very first passengers to travel behind 3801 since 2007.
The train is expected to arrive into Thirlmere at approximately 12.30pm. 3801 will then remain based at Thirlmere where further trials and crew training will take place over the coming weeks, ahead of painting and official relaunch this year.
Please note, times indicated are a guide only and may change at short notice in line with ongoing operations on the mainline railway.
⚠️ SAFETY FIRST ⚠️ If you intend on catching a glimpse of today’s train, please remember to stand behind the yellow line at stations and remain only in publicly accessible areas, clear of the rail corridor.

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  exarmidale Train Controller

It’s there now.
That’s why 4490 got a good clean the other day.
  Bevan Wall Deputy Commissioner

Here are a few scenes of 3801 returning to Thirlmere today.
Enjoy,
BW



https://youtu.be/QhKEGHF53Rw
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Thanks BW.
Sounds great, climbing towards Maldon.
Edit, cowling/sheet metal work looks particularly tidy. Top stuff.

Suppose a colour scheme has already been decided upon, just looking at a clean 4490, what would a 38 look like in Indian red and yellow whiskers? Laughing
  a6et Minister for Railways

Thanks BW.
Sounds great, climbing towards Maldon.
Edit, cowling/sheet metal work looks particularly tidy. Top stuff.

Suppose a colour scheme has already been decided upon, just looking at a clean 4490, what would a 38 look like in Indian red and yellow whiskers? Laughing
michaelgm
Also be nice if they can get a 38class whistle for it.
  TheFish Chief Train Controller

Location: Pyongyang
Thanks BW.
Sounds great, climbing towards Maldon.
Edit, cowling/sheet metal work looks particularly tidy. Top stuff.

Suppose a colour scheme has already been decided upon, just looking at a clean 4490, what would a 38 look like in Indian red and yellow whiskers? Laughing
Also be nice if they can get a 38class whistle for it.
a6et

Sounds like one to me. What were you expecting?

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