Australia Day Public Holiday

 

News article: Australia Day Public Holiday

Monday 27 January, first to last tram.

  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Lots of protesting in Melbourne today causing traffic chaos and affecting public transport. Why?

Australia Day Public Holiday

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  MetroFemme Assistant Commissioner

Protests about Australia Day and aboriginal issues around the day which now have more whites protesting than blacks divide us with we should be one under the Australian flag.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Protests about Australia Day and aboriginal issues around the day which now have more whites protesting than blacks divide us with we should be one under the Australian flag.
MetroFemme
Australia Day in its current form is divisive, not unifying.

It is time to concede this point and move on.

Select a new date that honours a great anniversary of forward progress for the whole nation (I would suggest 3 March, the anniversary of the Australia Act 1986 taking effect) and suggest that NSW hold a plebiscite on retaining January 26 as a state public holiday.
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
Protests about Australia Day and aboriginal issues around the day which now have more whites protesting than blacks divide us with we should be one under the Australian flag.
Australia Day in its current form is divisive, not unifying.

It is time to concede this point and move on.

Select a new date that honours a great anniversary of forward progress for the whole nation (I would suggest 3 March, the anniversary of the Australia Act 1986 taking effect) and suggest that NSW hold a plebiscite on retaining January 26 as a state public holiday.
justapassenger
So let's have a new date for "Let's not offend anyone Day", but keep the January long weekend as a holiday before the kids go back to school.   That will work.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Protests about Australia Day and aboriginal issues around the day which now have more whites protesting than blacks divide us with we should be one under the Australian flag.
Australia Day in its current form is divisive, not unifying.

It is time to concede this point and move on.

Select a new date that honours a great anniversary of forward progress for the whole nation (I would suggest 3 March, the anniversary of the Australia Act 1986 taking effect) and suggest that NSW hold a plebiscite on retaining January 26 as a state public holiday.
justapassenger
Honestly thats %#$#$%$#

Federation day which most would normally take to be the national holiday is 1st Jan, whoops that public holiday is already taken, next time we should plan for a different day.

Australia Day marks the day Europeans first arrived to stay for good on the land mass now call Aus. Yes the first nearly 200 years wasn't exactly a ball of roses for the locals, guess what, it was the same everywhere. At the same time convicts where often worked to death, wiped to death and just driven mad with the "justice system" at the time (read Ned kelly's father history) Chinese were also victimised and murdered, including by the locals, women basically had no rights and Church Priests thought what they did in the back room was normal. It was basically horrible for all but a few, yes mostly white males.

Picking any other arbitrary day is just "sheep in wolfs clothing" and doesn't solve anything. All this still happened and in some cases still happening. The Aboriginal issues are still there including issues that are not related to the last 200 years including incest, rape and other forms of violence that are prevalent in some aboriginal communities.

Maybe rather than just trying to hide the past Australia Day is also a day of improving the future.

Also remember the time of year for Australia day, end of Jan still in school holidays, so a popular time to have a public holiday for which many will oppose to be lost.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Protests about Australia Day and aboriginal issues around the day which now have more whites protesting than blacks divide us with we should be one under the Australian flag.
Australia Day in its current form is divisive, not unifying.

It is time to concede this point and move on.

Select a new date that honours a great anniversary of forward progress for the whole nation (I would suggest 3 March, the anniversary of the Australia Act 1986 taking effect) and suggest that NSW hold a plebiscite on retaining January 26 as a state public holiday.
So let's have a new date for "Let's not offend anyone Day", but keep the January long weekend as a holiday before the kids go back to school.   That will work.
Donald
The govt will not approve a new additional public holiday.

As for "not offending anyone date", it doesn't exist.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Just scrap Australia Day completely. Problem solved and who'd care?
  Hafenbahn Locomotive Fireman

I would suggest that 26th September would be an appropriate and non divisive date.
  ANR Deputy Commissioner

Valvegear, I would agree with you, but just as good would be to change the date to 1 Jan. It was the day the colonies became part of the Commonwealth.

People would be too hung over to notice.

Problem solved.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

It wasn't even the day of the arrival of the First Fleet. The fleet arrived at Botany Bay, over a couple of days, the week before. The Colony of NSW wasn't formally established until the 7th February.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Realistically, would a majority of Australians support a change? If so let's have a change, if not leave it alone.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Valvegear, I would agree with you, but just as good would be to change the date to 1 Jan. It was the day the colonies became part of the Commonwealth.

People would be too hung over to notice.

Problem solved.
ANR
I actually said this to an Emiratie at work today when explaining why Australia Day is not "independence Day" as he labeled it, yes he laughed.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
It wasn't even the day of the arrival of the First Fleet. The fleet arrived at Botany Bay, over a couple of days, the week before. The Colony of NSW wasn't formally established until the 7th February.
kitchgp
No it is and always has been the day the first fleet landed in Port Jackson, where they pitched their tents. NSW has been celebrating the 26th Jan since they believe at least 1808.

Would you celebrate arriving in that mozzie infested Botany Bay?
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Sydney Foundation Day.
  SinickleBird Chief Train Controller

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
Move it to April 1, in honour of all the professional protest groups.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
What does January 26th mean to me? The anniversary of the day the English arrived to start a prison in what we now call Sydney. As a Victorian, it doesn't resonate with me one bit.

Am I going to fall into some phoney jingoistic Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi bullshiezen just so I can pretend I'm like an American on the 4th of July? Not bloody likely.

Do I think the date should be moved? Certainly, give us a national holiday, that has meaning for the entire country, not just for the white people in Sydney.

When should our national holiday be? January 1 is the obvious one, the date of Federation, the birth of our nation according to some. That just isn't going to happen, Most people use Australia Day now as an excuse to have a day off work, have a barbecue and sink a few cans. The 1st of January is already New Years Day, so that just won't fly. Anyway, Yes, it was the date of Federation, but after federation, we were in reality, just a self-governed provincial outpost of the British Empire, which is why so many of our soldiers fought in British wars as British soldiers. Over the coming decades, our true independence was gained and granted over time, which means, yes there are other options such as the 3rd of March, the  26th of March or the 8th of May. All of those have a little bit of merit, but none that really stand out on their own enough that anybody can really remember what they are.

No, we need a date that really means something.

I see a solution, but I think it may be a few years off yet (after Scotty from marketing has done the decent thing and vacated himself fromThe Lodge for one), and most of all it requires the Australian Republican Movement to get off their backsides and to come up with a decent model for an Australian Republic. Then, push for a new referendum or plebescite (the last one was over 20 years ago) and pick a decent date to exit from under her majesty's apron (1st of February, that way it is still at the end of the summer break) and use that as our new national day.

Kill 2 annoying birds with one easy to throw stone.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

It's hard to take Australia Day seriously. Until recently, it was just a holiday, moved to a Monday or Friday to make a long weekend, ie not necessarily held on Jan 26.
  C2 Junior Train Controller

Lots of interesting dates and history but that's all we really need is the government to chill out about economics and teach us our history from both sides. Yes the red coats , governors  and convicts might be you and me now. But the Australian Aboriginal peoples are still here from when time began or 80000 wow big numbers. If you stop judging and stop wanting  people to be just like you..you might start to feel this country more and it's not pet trains strokes.
  stooge spark Train Controller

Location: My House
Just get rid of the day, only people that would throw their arms would be hypocritical right-wingers and the 2 people that take a day off on Australia day.

Oh, and the taxpayer who complains about everything being a waste of his tax.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
What does January 26th mean to me? The anniversary of the day the English arrived to start a prison in what we now call Sydney. As a Victorian, it doesn't resonate with me one bit.

Am I going to fall into some phoney jingoistic Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi bullshiezen just so I can pretend I'm like an American on the 4th of July? Not bloody likely.

Do I think the date should be moved? Certainly, give us a national holiday, that has meaning for the entire country, not just for the white people in Sydney.

When should our national holiday be? January 1 is the obvious one, the date of Federation, the birth of our nation according to some. That just isn't going to happen, Most people use Australia Day now as an excuse to have a day off work, have a barbecue and sink a few cans. The 1st of January is already New Years Day, so that just won't fly. Anyway, Yes, it was the date of Federation, but after federation, we were in reality, just a self-governed provincial outpost of the British Empire, which is why so many of our soldiers fought in British wars as British soldiers. Over the coming decades, our true independence was gained and granted over time, which means, yes there are other options such as the 3rd of March, the  26th of March or the 8th of May. All of those have a little bit of merit, but none that really stand out on their own enough that anybody can really remember what they are.

No, we need a date that really means something.

I see a solution, but I think it may be a few years off yet (after Scotty from marketing has done the decent thing and vacated himself fromThe Lodge for one), and most of all it requires the Australian Republican Movement to get off their backsides and to come up with a decent model for an Australian Republic. Then, push for a new referendum or plebescite (the last one was over 20 years ago) and pick a decent date to exit from under her majesty's apron (1st of February, that way it is still at the end of the summer break) and use that as our new national day.

Kill 2 annoying birds with one easy to throw stone.

I will only vote for a Republic is the first day is the 26th Jan! Smile

Many Australian's enjoy what has now been enshrined in our culture and that is a long weekend prior to end of summer school holidays. Many people take Christmas to Aussie Day off as annual leave or have one final week off with the kids. Hell its even the final game of the big three test matches, Boxing Day, New Years and Aussie Day.

Moving to another time of the year is just an arbitrary day to suit some and those days such as 3rd of March have so little meaning to the public at large its irrelevant.

The greater public enjoy the public holiday as last weekend in Jan, its not just a day, its cultural.

Yes Australia day has become more flag waving in the last decade guess what, Australia is not alone here, National Pride and flag waving has quickly become a global trend, Halloween is similar. UAE day used to be almost nothing until around 10-12 years ago, then the whole flag thing took off, from their 40th anniversary in 2011 it really took off.

There are four things certain in life
Death
Taxes
Annual start of summer debate over Qld debate over daylight savings
Annual mid summer debate over Australia day

As most of the movement for change the date comes from Vic, then the argument to change the date is really mute as Peoples Republic of Victoria as its hardly reknown for anything but far leftist thinking from those who are offended on behalf of others who might be offended.

...bring on Australia Day 2021, so we can debate it all over again.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
It's hard to take Australia Day seriously. Until recently, it was just a holiday, moved to a Monday or Friday to make a long weekend, ie not necessarily held on Jan 26.
kitchgp
I think thats exactly how most people choose to take the day, not seriously. Kick back, watch the cricket, have a tinnie or 10, camping, beaching, Barbie....

To have not have a public holiday for Australia day would be Un-Australian.
  62440 Chief Commissioner

On January 26th, Australians came into being, until then we were British citizens. It really is Australia's birthday. The aboriginal population also officially became Australian on the same date. That is what I will be celebrating.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

On January 26th, Australians came into being, until then we were British citizens. It really is Australia's birthday. The aboriginal population also officially became Australian on the same date. That is what I will be celebrating.
62440
The Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 coming into force on 26 January 1949 would be an interesting anniversary to select for the purpose of a national holiday.

Since the Act was repealed and replaced with the Australian Citizenship Act 2007 which took effect on 1 July 2007, that would provide a good precedent for selecting the first Monday in July as the new Australia Day.
  SinickleBird Chief Train Controller

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
Just give everyone the option to have a day off for their birthday. Simples.

there again, there’s sure to be someone out there waiting to get outraged (on someone else’s behalf) about that too.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Just give everyone the option to have a day off for their birthday. Simples.
SinickleBird"
Tough luck if you were born on 29th February in a Leap Year.

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