The corona virus COVID-19

 
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE

The current mortality rate is about 3% of the infected population, that makes it not such a friendly puppy.

Aaron
With the 3% of deaths mostly above age 50 and increasing in mortality rate almost exponentially by age. I don't know, but perhaps the "typical" flu is similar in its disproportional killing power.

Regardless the issue for the virus is that a visit to Grandma and Grandpa could be the "kiss of death" and you may not even know you were infected.

Therefore its about time hard action is taken to limit the spread as quickly as possible so we put this thing behind us and start repairing the world economy before unemployment caused by the virus has a greater death rate.

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  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Telstra tells it workforce to work from home from Monday. http://www.itnews.com.au/news/telstra-tells-australian-office-staff-to-work-from-home-539291
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
Home Affairs Minister, Peter Dutton has today tested positive to Covid19.

Tuesday this week, He, along with the rest of cabinet and the Prime Minister spent a lot of the day locked in meetings.

If our politicians were to follow the advice everybody else has been told to follow, the entire cabinet should have been placed in self isolation. This would be leading by example.

Instead, the Prime Minister today attended COAG meetings with all of the state premiers (potentially spreading the virus to all of them) and has announced a ban on mass gatherings of over 500 people. Strangely though, the ban is not to come into place until Monday. After announcing the ban, Scotty From Marketing stated that he would still attend tomorrow's Cronulla Sharks game.

Instead of going into isolation, our prime minister is attending a mass gathering that he has placed a delayed ban on.

What a farce.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Home Affairs Minister, Peter Dutton has today tested positive to Covid19.

Tuesday this week, He, along with the rest of cabinet and the Prime Minister spent a lot of the day locked in meetings.

If our politicians were to follow the advice everybody else has been told to follow, the entire cabinet should have been placed in self isolation. This would be leading by example.

Instead, the Prime Minister today attended COAG meetings with all of the state premiers (potentially spreading the virus to all of them) and has announced a ban on mass gatherings of over 500 people. Strangely though, the ban is not to come into place until Monday. After announcing the ban, Scotty From Marketing stated that he would still attend tomorrow's Cronulla Sharks game.

Instead of going into isolation, our prime minister is attending a mass gathering that he has placed a delayed ban on.

What a farce.
Gman_86
He isn't now, a spokesman from his office has confirmed it.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
Home Affairs Minister, Peter Dutton has today tested positive to Covid19.

Tuesday this week, He, along with the rest of cabinet and the Prime Minister spent a lot of the day locked in meetings.

If our politicians were to follow the advice everybody else has been told to follow, the entire cabinet should have been placed in self isolation. This would be leading by example.

Instead, the Prime Minister today attended COAG meetings with all of the state premiers (potentially spreading the virus to all of them) and has announced a ban on mass gatherings of over 500 people. Strangely though, the ban is not to come into place until Monday. After announcing the ban, Scotty From Marketing stated that he would still attend tomorrow's Cronulla Sharks game.

Instead of going into isolation, our prime minister is attending a mass gathering that he has placed a delayed ban on.

What a farce.
He isn't now, a spokesman from his office has confirmed it.
lsrailfan
Now there's no need to wait until Monday to enforce the ban then, is there? Wink

I have changed my stance on the issue of banning large non-essential gatherings since taking on board the advice of people such as Murphy today. His explanation regarding seated sporting events vs. transitioning through transport terminals etc. made good sense. Having said that, was the cancellation of the Grand Prix premature considering that the expert advice/captain's call (strike out the non applicable option) suggests that there is no need for such action until Monday???
  DCook Chief Train Controller

Location: The standard state
Yet another event cancelled, not a sport game but the long awaited relaunch of 3801
https://www.thnsw.com.au/post/locomotive-3801-returns-27-march
  Transtopic Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
Isn't it remarkable that the emergence of the coronavirus in China, the world's second biggest economy, could potentially result in the biggest economic recession in recent history?  It says a lot about the priorities of a communist state, without adequate health policies and protection of its citizens.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Home Affairs Minister, Peter Dutton has today tested positive to Covid19.
Gman_86
Not the only person to have tested positive for COVID-19 after travelling to the US. Justin Trudeau's wife has too.

Time for a ban on US travel to Australia. Tell planes in the air to turn around, divert or land in Australia only for refuelling prior to returning.

Tuesday this week, He, along with the rest of cabinet and the Prime Minister spent a lot of the day locked in meetings.

If our politicians were to follow the advice everybody else has been told to follow, the entire cabinet should have been placed in self isolation. This would be leading by example.
Gman_86
I can even think of an appropriate location. Would dovetail nicely with a fresh audit of their citizenship status.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Further updates from my foreign correspondents.

My friend in Italy has sent me some pics of people out in the streets all maintaining their 1m separations. The queue for the post office looked very strange, everyone well spaced apart.

They need to carry a signed piece of paper that tells the authorities where they’re from and what area they’re supposed to be in, fines are given if you’re not in the right place.

Only essential shops are open, which in Italy includes the very essential tobacco shops...

It’s flour and legumes that are flying off Italian shelves, not toilet paper... Food shops are insisting that customers wear the plastic disposable food handling gloves when handling any food items. Bare hands will not be tolerated and you will be banned from the shop!

My friend is single and she’s been on a few dates since she’s been in Italy, none of them have ended up being that interesting or pursuable for one reason or another, but she tells me last week she met an interesting guy, but now they cannot see each other again until at least April.

They’ve had some tanks in the streets, some prison riots because visitation is cancelled, and some escapees.

Italian authorities are fining, or in some cases detaining people for violating the 1m personal space rule.


The polish friends say that there are rumours that Poland is going to end up with Marshall law, whole cities locked down with tanks just like in the early 80s. Tanks in the streets to enforce travel/movement restrictions. - Something that Italy didn’t get right, with large numbers of people from Milan fleeing the area and heading south before the containment was properly implemented. One woman paid a taxi driver 1200 euros (AUD2000) to drive her from Milan to Rome to escape the lockdown.

We have an uncle in the polish airforce, he was at work on base when they locked the base down. No one in or out to prevent infection spread. Trouble is, his wife who also works in the polish airforce was off base at the time, she’s not allowed back in and hence they have no idea when they will be allowed to see each other again.

There is no fresh fruit or vegetables to be eaten uncooked on the base, all food has to be cooked, so green leafy salad options are just not a thing.
  arctic Deputy Commissioner

Location: Zurich
In Switzerland, we have events >100 persons cancelled by the Federal govt and tighter restrictions from some of the Kantons (states). An event I was supposed to be a sound engineer for a band just got canned. Smallish event. Not really any panic so far...I think my company will soon ask everyone to work from home if they can. Cheers
  davesvline Chief Commissioner

Location: 1983-1998
Rumour has it that Victorian school holidays might get extended by a week. Perhaps so that having the kids at home inevitably uses the stockpiles of home toilet paper, rather than the school’s??

Mrs picks up the kids n recons some parents (oh how school mum’s can gossip) we’re discussing that a little girl was complaining there was no toilet paper in the toilet. On investigation there was, but when the little girl was quizzed, it was the unopened ones her mum had asked her to collect and bring home she couldn’t find:shock:.

If true, what next??

Regards
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
So apparently from Monday, people will be asked to avoid gathering in numbers of 500+, why not now...??, this announcement does not apply to schools, unis, airports.
A few Uni's have already delayed there start dates with the first few weeks being online only. Its a disorganised mess for the students with them having to make travel arrangements and all that jazz
Make travel arrangements to study online? Huh ?
Upven
Twas referring to the international students.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Home Affairs Minister, Peter Dutton has today tested positive to Covid19.

Hmmm, Dutton and positive in the same sentence, a first?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Isn't it remarkable that the emergence of the coronavirus in China, the world's second biggest economy, could potentially result in the biggest economic recession in recent history?  It says a lot about the priorities of a communist state, without adequate health policies and protection of its citizens.
Transtopic
Not quite sure what you are trying to get at here but the Chinese govt locked down the country at a time where people were preparing to travel and in many cases already had traveled. Chinese factories and work places didn't have staff or if they did, didn't have materials or if they did, didn't have transport to move it out.

The virus will not induce a recession in China, more like the whole world.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
...was the cancellation of the Grand Prix premature considering that the expert advice/captain's call (strike out the non applicable option) suggests that there is no need for such action until Monday???
Dirty Ballast

The Grand Prix was not cancelled as a result of the PM's call, it was cancelled well before that by FIA, the Formula 1 governing body in agreement with AGP, the organisers of the Australian event.

The official announcement on this was not until about 10am Friday, although, some drivers (Sebastian Vettel among them) flew out of Melbourne on the 6am Emirates flight that morning, so they really had no option but to cancel it.

The PM's call to ban mass gatherings didn't come about until 4pm that afternoon.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
...was the cancellation of the Grand Prix premature considering that the expert advice/captain's call (strike out the non applicable option) suggests that there is no need for such action until Monday???

The Grand Prix was not cancelled as a result of the PM's call, it was cancelled well before that by FIA, the Formula 1 governing body in agreement with AGP, the organisers of the Australian event.

The official announcement on this was not until about 10am Friday, although, some drivers (Sebastian Vettel among them) flew out of Melbourne on the 6am Emirates flight that morning, so they really had no option but to cancel it.

The PM's call to ban mass gatherings didn't come about until 4pm that afternoon.
Gman_86
You misunderstood, Gman.

Forget about the PM. If the expert medical advice says that there is no need to ban events until Monday, was the cancellation of the Grand Prix premature or not???
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
has landed and 4 people are now infected. This is scaring me and the wife.
freightgate

If you were scared back in January...I expect by now you've since been certified insane and are no longer posting messages...

M.
  Crossover Train Controller

Location: St. Albans Victoria
One thing that's not a conspiracy theory is that Australia's tourism industry is stuffed after the summer bushfires and now Chronovirus threat.
Carnot
I apologise for starting a new thread on this subject .
I missed this one !
There has been some discussion n the media re the possibility of restricting public transport to one person perseat and standees being at least a metre apart .
Aside from how this would be policed , how do people think that our transport system would cope if these restrictions were introduced ?
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
...was the cancellation of the Grand Prix premature considering that the expert advice/captain's call (strike out the non applicable option) suggests that there is no need for such action until Monday???

The Grand Prix was not cancelled as a result of the PM's call, it was cancelled well before that by FIA, the Formula 1 governing body in agreement with AGP, the organisers of the Australian event.

The official announcement on this was not until about 10am Friday, although, some drivers (Sebastian Vettel among them) flew out of Melbourne on the 6am Emirates flight that morning, so they really had no option but to cancel it.

The PM's call to ban mass gatherings didn't come about until 4pm that afternoon.
You misunderstood, Gman.

Forget about the PM. If the expert medical advice says that there is no need to ban events until Monday, was the cancellation of the Grand Prix premature or not???
DirtyBallast
Absolutely not premature. The FIA made a determination, this was outside of any (non) decision by our government. They already had many drivers and teams not willing to be at and perceived risk, and with a McLaren member testing positive that was effectively the end of it for the FIA. A few drivers departed Australia on the Thursday night, they weren’t going to run the event with only a handful of cars.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

Biggest media beat-up of all time.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Absolutely not premature. The FIA made a determination, this was outside of any (non) decision by our government. They already had many drivers and teams not willing to be at and perceived risk, and with a McLaren member testing positive that was effectively the end of it for the FIA. A few drivers departed Australia on the Thursday night, they weren’t going to run the event with only a handful of cars.
Aaron
The weekend is a longtime for COVID-19, I guess many would have left for fear of being locked out from getting home.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
That would also likely have been a valid concern for many too.

Also, if team/crew members start to test positive that means that surfaces and equipment they’ve been in contact with or near are going to need sanitisation. Quite some equipment in a F1 garage probably wouldn’t cope too well with that.
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

Isn't it remarkable that the emergence of the coronavirus in China, the world's second biggest economy, could potentially result in the biggest economic recession in recent history?  It says a lot about the priorities of a communist state, without adequate health policies and protection of its citizens.
Transtopic
Actually it has a lot more to do with companies worldwide putting all their supplier eggs in a single basket (China) in order to save a cent, without a single thought about what happens if that source fails for any reason.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

That would also likely have been a valid concern for many too.

Also, if team/crew members start to test positive that means that surfaces and equipment they’ve been in contact with or near are going to need sanitisation. Quite some equipment in a F1 garage probably wouldn’t cope too well with that.
Aaron
There was already one positive at McLaren on Thursday afternoon, which forced the team to withdraw on Thursday night.

It had already been confirmed by FIA and FOM that any GP which not all teams could enter due to COVID-19 related issues would no longer be a championship event with points awarded. Judging by the drivers and teams leaving (or starting to pack up) before the official announcement, it would seem that no points = no point.

The smartest thing that could be done for F1 now would be to postpone the major changes due to come in the 2021 regulations by a year, to allow the teams to get a season’s worth of use from this year’s car despite the likelihood of this year having no more than a handful of late season races at the best.
  mike49 Locomotive Fireman

It would be reassuring to read that our major public transport operators, Metro Trains, V/Line & Yarra Trams are stepping up their cleaning & hygiene procedures as a result of COVID-19 but I haven't seen anything to that effect.

I don't think that it's unfair to say that the cleanliness of our public transport leaves a lot to be desired & it would be good to know that it is being addressed.

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