What Australian transport authorities are saying about COVID-19

 
Topic moved from News by bevans on 19 May 2020 14:21
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Metro Trains should expect to see dropping patronage over the next few weeks.  I read in the Weekend Australian Telstra has asked their workforce to not attend buildings across the country and has banned domestic and most international travel for its staff.

ANZ is thinking of doing the same.  Others will follow.

This means less people travelling on the network and less risk to those who travel.

My question is will Metro Trains have a decrease in revenue the government will need to prop up?

What Australian transport authorities are saying about COVID-19

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  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
All transport operators could see a downward trend in passengers over the next few months.

V/line is also likely too but there performance has been so bad they will not tell the difference.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
If metro revenue falls then maybe government will need to provide a bigger subsidy this year ?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
If metro revenue falls then maybe government will need to provide a bigger subsidy this year ?
freightgate

This is my question.  If MYKI gate receipts are down presumably the amount of money Metro Trains will receive may change or it may be the case that they are paid to run less services making the amount they receive lower?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
If metro revenue falls then maybe government will need to provide a bigger subsidy this year ?

This is my question.  If MYKI gate receipts are down presumably the amount of money Metro Trains will receive may change or it may be the case that they are paid to run less services making the amount they receive lower?
bevans
I could be wrong, but I thought the revenue was owned by the govt.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Important now is the increased cleaning of the carriages which metro trains should be doing. Properly disinfecting runs across the fleet before and after peak periods a good start.

SYDNEY trains need to do this too.

V/line would you expect the same since the colunes of passengers are so high on the western lines ?
  SinickleBird Assistant Commissioner

Location: Qantas Club at Mudgee International Airport
Colunes? Got me with that one
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I don't think Metro is doing anymore more on this issue as no announcements regarding extended cleaning have been made.  

Agree this needs to happen asap.
  ANR Deputy Commissioner

People will be taking their cars. With petrol being cheep, it is a no brainer.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Colunes? Got me with that one
SinickleBird
Cojones. He's expressing his appreciation for those in the west with big balls.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Adelaide just announced they will start cleaning their vehicles

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Viarail now suspending some services

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/via-rail-suspends-some-train-service-amid-coronavirus-outbreak
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
'stagnant patronage on many bus routes'

How can bus ridership be measured when fare evasion is out of control Question

Mike.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Adelaide just announced they will start cleaning their vehicles

bevans
No gloves?
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Important now is the increased cleaning of the carriages which metro trains should be doing. Properly disinfecting runs across the fleet before and after peak periods a good start.

SYDNEY trains need to do this too.

V/line would you expect the same since the colunes of passengers are so high on the western lines ?
freightgate
When the train is approaching the terminus on each run a bunch of people get on and start cleaning then get off when it returns.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Yuck.  Take a look at this.  How good is the cleaning anyways?

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/coronavirus-mum-s-disgusting-find-after-cleaning-nsw-train-seat
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Adelaide just announced they will start cleaning their vehicles

No gloves?
RTT_Rules
Clearly not important in a practical sense, but I agree that even photo op participants should be demonstrating correct practice as part of sending a consistent message. Maybe even get an actual cleaner to be a part of it next time around.

I had no idea that our vehicles were cleaned twice a week, but it certainly explains why I haven't caught a grotty bus in a very long time. They should positively sparkle with stepping it up to daily.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Got me thinking about how clean cline rolling stock really is.

Hope they are properly cleaning the carriages with the right materials and technique.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I was on a suburban train in Melb yesterday.  It's not very pleasant when there's someone nearby with a face mask, sweat pouring off his forehead, and he's taking short breaths....

I used my elbow to press door opening button.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Calls it would seem to stop longer distance vline services in Victoria?

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/health-chiefs-say-halting-longhaul-buses-trains-is-best-route-to-take
  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Every service provider is going to lose revenue. Anything that charges for a service, irrespective of public or private ownership. Demand is going to slump.

Every service provider is going to see increase cost and loss of productivity. Increase cost in trying to maintain same level of service by putting in additional public health measures and potentially loss of available staff and substituting them at a higher rate.

So overall a higher cost per service provided. Either costs will have to go up or more wisely reduce service levels to meet demand. We have seen this elsewhere, eg the Tube and airlines. Buses and trains will also do this. I can see further restrictions for long distance travel by private vehicles eventually. Particularly accessing isolated communities.

The transport sector is not immuned from this, irrespective of the type of ownership. Post event it will interesting to see if temporary measures become more permanent. Eg If long distance services suspension becomes permanent. I know that it hasn't happened yet, but we are about to.

I wish everyone well, this is going to be a long year. The reality is that 6 months will turn into 12 months. Mass vaccination won't occur until then and will be needed so that society restrictions can be lifted. No government is going to risk anything else.They just don't want to spook the horses. We have seen the stupidity already with a light touch, eg dunny paper.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
If the trend of the past 2 weeks is replicated over the next few weeks (as it most likely will be) I would expect services to be dropped to weekend levels to try and save some of the costs while also allowing more workers to stay home out of risk.

If a full lockdown does happen, don't be surprised if there is a complete shutdown of all rail services with the possible exception of essential freight services (an example here may be the SCT Melbourne to Perth service which carts goods for Woolworths). If everybody has to remain at home, then there is no reason to run the buses and passenger trains.

Yes, public transport operators will lose revenue. Big deal, everybody is losing money. Nobody is winning here. Nobody.
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
I was on a suburban train in Melb yesterday.  It's not very pleasant when there's someone nearby with a face mask, sweat pouring off his forehead, and he's taking short breaths....
Carnot
Would you prefer that he wasn't wearing a mask?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Qantas is planning to store 50 aircraft at Avalon near Geelong.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Qantas is planning to store 50 aircraft at Avalon near Geelong.
freightgate

Confirming I saw around 1/2 dozen qantas planes at Avalon yesterday on the way to Geelong.  The Age Newspaper today confirms a large number of aircraft will be sent to Avalon over the next two weeks (around 50) together with a team of aircraft maintainers.

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