Why is it considered a flood zone?
Skyrail would not be the only option here would it? Why is it considered a flood zone?
Nillumbik councillor says Diamond Creek sky rail can solve traffic woes
The cheapest practical option should be chosen.A road bridge? Are you serious?
If a sky rail is built I'm pretty sure Diamond Creek station will also have to be rebuilt.
A road bridge is a cheaper option. There is plenty of room there for a road bridge over the railway.
Westgarth Street, Victoria Road, Station Street, these all deserve to be removed before the main road in Diamond Creek.
Why???
Westgarth Street, Victoria Road, Station Street, these all deserve to be removed before the main road in Diamond Creek.
No touching station street.
Diamond Creek gets a train 40 minutes, yet from my experiences passing through the station it looks like it's enough to cause a decent amount of congestion.In point of fact, Diamond Creek gets a train more often than every 40 minutes, even in off-peak, because trains are going in both directions. For example, on weekdays there's an Up at 10.14, then a Down at 10.28, then an Up at 10.54, a Down at 11.08, and so on. All of them obviously using the LX.
All of this talk reminded me of a similar proposal for Croydon station a few years ago.That may be true, however I went to a presentation a year or two ago from a senior representative from Darebin Council. In the presentation the person was discussing how the State Government in 2014 initially made a commitment to remove a single level crossing in the Preston area at Bell Street.
https://www.maroondah.vic.gov.au/Development/Developing-Maroondah/Planning-for-future-development/Croydon-Activity-Centre/Coolstore-Road-level-crossing-and-Croydon-Station-upgrade
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/outer-east/images-show-sky-rail-proposed-to-replace-coolstore-rd-croydon-level-crossing/news-story/64c2deb2e2fe110bc2c4b2de00076be1
Local councilor provides thought bubble. Bubble is picked up by council. Council drafts proposal. Proposal get media attention. Bugger all happens.
Looking back on this, Croydon has a better justification than Diamond Creek. It serves about 2200 pax daily, compared to 500 pax at Diamond Creek.
So whilst nothing may come of it, if the Council's put in the initial work and come up with some feasible (and cost effective) solutions, it makes it easy for politicians to pick it up and run with it. Who knows whether Croydon or Diamond Creek will be a marginal seat in 2022.
That may be true, however I went to a presentation a year or two ago from a senior representative from Darebin Council. In the presentation the person was discussing how the State Government in 2014 initially made a commitment to remove a single level crossing in the Preston area at Bell Street.I congratulate you on being present when Darebin Council actually did something sensible. Cherish the moment; it doesn't happen often.
To add some fat to this.Yes, but the crossing is used by many more than 500 per day, and they are the ones who are most affected. Makes little difference to the rail passengers, whatever their number. A crossing removal, and if necessary a new or rebuilt station, would not be intended primarily to benefit the less than 500 people per day.
Nilumbilk has just released their draft Diamond Creek Activity Centre Plan which wants to leverage the DOT to build a brand new skyrail station to 'revitalise' Diamond Creek. A lot of the plan rests on this, even though the council acknowledges that it's not on DOT's plans. It is where the councillors comments have come from, word for word. It is disappointing to read the plan and see that most of the revitalisation is dependant on a project that will never happen. If a new station as built we could.... and new station would allow council too... Nilumbilk should be focusing on what they can change to improve the area for the local residents and if a LXR is announced, they can alter their plans then.
There are far more pressing crossings that need to be removed. As well as major transport interchanges that are in desperate need of upgrades before $100 million is spent on a station that is used by less that 500 people per day.
https://s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/hdp.au.prod.app.nil-participate.files/2615/8336/9706/Diamond_Creek_Activity_Centre_Draft_Structure_Plan_-_draft_for_public_consultation.pdf
All of this talk reminded me of a similar proposal for Croydon station a few years ago.The number of pax is not really the issue. Rather, it's the number of vehicles using the crossing, and the delays they experience. The Diamond Creek road is far busier than Croydon, and is compounded by the single track. At Croydon, Up and Down trains can use the crossing at the same time if necessary; at Diamond Creek they arrive at about the same time but must alternate, so that the crossing is closed for longer.
https://www.maroondah.vic.gov.au/Development/Developing-Maroondah/Planning-for-future-development/Croydon-Activity-Centre/Coolstore-Road-level-crossing-and-Croydon-Station-upgrade
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/outer-east/images-show-sky-rail-proposed-to-replace-coolstore-rd-croydon-level-crossing/news-story/64c2deb2e2fe110bc2c4b2de00076be1
Local councilor provides thought bubble. Bubble is picked up by council. Council drafts proposal. Proposal get media attention. Bugger all happens.
Looking back on this, Croydon has a better justification than Diamond Creek. It serves about 2200 pax daily, compared to 500 pax at Diamond Creek.
That may be true, however I went to a presentation a year or two ago from a senior representative from Darebin Council. In the presentation the person was discussing how the State Government in 2014 initially made a commitment to remove a single level crossing in the Preston area at Bell Street.The proposal then was for lowering under Bell St, Oakover, Murray and Cramer. Except for Bell to Bruce, there is land available but a lot of resumptions are needed between Bell and Bruce whether you go up or down. Bell and Preston get new stations, there is more parking space at the soccer ground and the stations. Bruce Street is reconnected.
Following that announcement the Council made their own representations to the State Government advocating that they adopt a Sky Rail solution and remove 4 crossings at once rather than just the single crossing at Bell Street. Sure enough when the extra 25 level crossings were announced in the lead up to the 2018 election, the additional 3 crossings in the Preston area were included.
So whilst nothing may come of it, if the Council's put in the initial work and come up with some feasible (and cost effective) solutions, it makes it easy for politicians to pick it up and run with it. Who knows whether Croydon or Diamond Creek will be a marginal seat in 2022.
Ross
A road bridge? Are you serious?
On the Eastern side of the line Fyffe St and Brooks Cres join Main Rd within 5m of the LX.
On the Western side, Station St is within about 15m of the crossing.
Just how do you fit a bridge in that amount of space without killing local road connectivity?
At present it is not subject to the "land subject to inundation overlay", but I surmise that any change in the topography would affect its rating.Skyrail would not be the only option here would it? Why is it considered a flood zone?
Nillumbik councillor says Diamond Creek sky rail can solve traffic woes
It's not a flood zone.
https://www.ses.vic.gov.au/documents/112015/134573/Diamond+Creek+Local+Flood+Guide.pdf/f37a6968-742c-447e-a09f-fc88dc9580ca
I read the article as saying that a trench would interupt the drainage from the eastern side of the line to Diamond Creek, potentially causing flooding. That would depend on the drains provided, but a proper system would probably be expensive given that the line is located on the river flats.
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