High Capacity Metro Trains (HCMT) Order

 
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

Problems with the bogies and undercarriage... due to poor track? There's a word for that, starts with an I. Icon..Idea..Idol..Iron. Nope, can't think of it right now.  Twisted Evil
"Due to poor track" - on a brand new train that had never been out of the construction yard train until the move to East Pakenham? Rather unlikely IMHO; far more likely to be poor construction since the design appears to work adequately for all subsequent deliveries.

Neil
ngarner
Oh god, when I read E001 I was thinking of EM100. I blame social isolation.

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  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Anyone know what has happened to E001?
It has not been talked about on this forum since it was delivered to Pakenham East Depot,nor has it been sighted on the mainline for testing with E002 having the honours  of being first.
TOQ-1 and NimbleJack posted on this forum that E001 has serious electrical issues. There were suggestions that there were also problems with the bogies and "undercarriage" whatever that was supposed to mean. It seems that #1 may not see service without getting new motor units or replaced completely, probably at Downers expense as I don't imagine CRRC would be willing to wear the cost of a 66th set after Downer appears to have stuffed it up so well.

Neil
Okay, thank you. I was just not sure if it was speculation at the time of posting or actual information.

I guess we will see sometime in the future as to what will become of set #1.
Op Kronos
Speaking of set 1, my friend found this on Google Images the other day:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=simg:CAQStAIJPtf5ny424VAaqAILELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKLANrw2-Cr8KhRW0DbENsw2HFakN-yL8IrI53jmFP7A57jjPK7k5zTkaMF63SsumbJRe1yCPf6tTF98aW30En1U5aCECY65HaaW2mALQEc69xk01QzUxaWNFjSAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIE46szEgwLEJ3twQkaoAEKIQoPaGlnaC1zcGVlZCByYWls2qWI9gMKCggvbS8wZGIyZgomChNlbGVjdHJpYyBsb2NvbW90aXZl2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMjJwZ2gKHwoNdHJhaW4gc3RhdGlvbtqliPYDCgoIL20vMHB5MjcKGAoFbWV0cm_1apYj2AwsKCS9tLzAxOTVmeAoYCgV0cmFja9qliPYDCwoJL20vMDF2azlxDA&q=melbourne+high+capacity+trains&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqg4rs2fHoAhXMGM0KHROZDcUQwg4oAHoECAcQJw&biw=1920&bih=935#imgrc=WUuCvK2bF5dg-M
It shows set 1 with pantograph up at Pakenham East Depot. Unfortunately most of the sources are in Chinese with little information and the only English site is behind the Herald Sun paywall. Could anyone with a Herald Sun account access the Herald Sun and see whether it is a video or anything? I notice it is about testing starting and is from December last year.

Also, not sure if this was mentioned here but Downer put a video that was found here but since deleted-

https://youtu.be/r5S6rwjwkKU but note that the video showed the "First Dynamic Test"  featuring set 1 (link still exists for some reason, I found it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MelbourneTrains/comments/bxdno0/first_dynamic_test_of_the_hcmt/).
  CraigieburnLineUser Locomotive Fireman

Anyone know what has happened to E001?
It has not been talked about on this forum since it was delivered to Pakenham East Depot,nor has it been sighted on the mainline for testing with E002 having the honours  of being first.
TOQ-1 and NimbleJack posted on this forum that E001 has serious electrical issues. There were suggestions that there were also problems with the bogies and "undercarriage" whatever that was supposed to mean. It seems that #1 may not see service without getting new motor units or replaced completely, probably at Downers expense as I don't imagine CRRC would be willing to wear the cost of a 66th set after Downer appears to have stuffed it up so well.

Neil
Okay, thank you. I was just not sure if it was speculation at the time of posting or actual information.

I guess we will see sometime in the future as to what will become of set #1.
Speaking of set 1, my friend found this on Google Images the other day:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=simg:CAQStAIJPtf5ny424VAaqAILELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKLANrw2-Cr8KhRW0DbENsw2HFakN-yL8IrI53jmFP7A57jjPK7k5zTkaMF63SsumbJRe1yCPf6tTF98aW30En1U5aCECY65HaaW2mALQEc69xk01QzUxaWNFjSAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIE46szEgwLEJ3twQkaoAEKIQoPaGlnaC1zcGVlZCByYWls2qWI9gMKCggvbS8wZGIyZgomChNlbGVjdHJpYyBsb2NvbW90aXZl2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMjJwZ2gKHwoNdHJhaW4gc3RhdGlvbtqliPYDCgoIL20vMHB5MjcKGAoFbWV0cm_1apYj2AwsKCS9tLzAxOTVmeAoYCgV0cmFja9qliPYDCwoJL20vMDF2azlxDA&q=melbourne+high+capacity+trains&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqg4rs2fHoAhXMGM0KHROZDcUQwg4oAHoECAcQJw&biw=1920&bih=935#imgrc=WUuCvK2bF5dg-M
It shows set 1 with pantograph up at Pakenham East Depot. Unfortunately most of the sources are in Chinese with little information and the only English site is behind the Herald Sun paywall. Could anyone with a Herald Sun account access the Herald Sun and see whether it is a video or anything? I notice it is about testing starting and is from December last year.

Also, not sure if this was mentioned here but Downer put a video that was found here but since deleted-

https://youtu.be/r5S6rwjwkKU but note that the video showed the "First Dynamic Test"  featuring set 1 (link still exists for some reason, I found it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MelbourneTrains/comments/bxdno0/first_dynamic_test_of_the_hcmt/).
Op Kronos
The article on the Herald Sun (thanks Uni subscription) is about December bus replacements while testing is going on. The photo is used as a stock photo and not mentioned in the article at all.

On another note and possibly something that’s been answered before: for the high capacities to come in does it require the first 5 sets (E001-E005) to do a certain number of km of testing or is it just a few sets that need to and then the rest can come into operation after basic testing is done
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
Anyone know what has happened to E001?
It has not been talked about on this forum since it was delivered to Pakenham East Depot,nor has it been sighted on the mainline for testing with E002 having the honours  of being first.
TOQ-1 and NimbleJack posted on this forum that E001 has serious electrical issues. There were suggestions that there were also problems with the bogies and "undercarriage" whatever that was supposed to mean. It seems that #1 may not see service without getting new motor units or replaced completely, probably at Downers expense as I don't imagine CRRC would be willing to wear the cost of a 66th set after Downer appears to have stuffed it up so well.

Neil
Okay, thank you. I was just not sure if it was speculation at the time of posting or actual information.

I guess we will see sometime in the future as to what will become of set #1.
Speaking of set 1, my friend found this on Google Images the other day:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbs=simg:CAQStAIJPtf5ny424VAaqAILELCMpwgaYgpgCAMSKLANrw2-Cr8KhRW0DbENsw2HFakN-yL8IrI53jmFP7A57jjPK7k5zTkaMF63SsumbJRe1yCPf6tTF98aW30En1U5aCECY65HaaW2mALQEc69xk01QzUxaWNFjSAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIE46szEgwLEJ3twQkaoAEKIQoPaGlnaC1zcGVlZCByYWls2qWI9gMKCggvbS8wZGIyZgomChNlbGVjdHJpYyBsb2NvbW90aXZl2qWI9gMLCgkvbS8wMjJwZ2gKHwoNdHJhaW4gc3RhdGlvbtqliPYDCgoIL20vMHB5MjcKGAoFbWV0cm_1apYj2AwsKCS9tLzAxOTVmeAoYCgV0cmFja9qliPYDCwoJL20vMDF2azlxDA&q=melbourne+high+capacity+trains&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqg4rs2fHoAhXMGM0KHROZDcUQwg4oAHoECAcQJw&biw=1920&bih=935#imgrc=WUuCvK2bF5dg-M
It shows set 1 with pantograph up at Pakenham East Depot. Unfortunately most of the sources are in Chinese with little information and the only English site is behind the Herald Sun paywall. Could anyone with a Herald Sun account access the Herald Sun and see whether it is a video or anything? I notice it is about testing starting and is from December last year.

Also, not sure if this was mentioned here but Downer put a video that was found here but since deleted-

https://youtu.be/r5S6rwjwkKU but note that the video showed the "First Dynamic Test"  featuring set 1 (link still exists for some reason, I found it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MelbourneTrains/comments/bxdno0/first_dynamic_test_of_the_hcmt/).
The article on the Herald Sun (thanks Uni subscription) is about December bus replacements while testing is going on. The photo is used as a stock photo and not mentioned in the article at all.

On another note and possibly something that’s been answered before: for the high capacities to come in does it require the first 5 sets (E001-E005) to do a certain number of km of testing or is it just a few sets that need to and then the rest can come into operation after basic testing is done
CraigieburnLineUser
The 'first', which will be E002, must do 10,000km of testing with 2,500km of fault free operation before acceptance, with all subsequent ones "only" having to complete 4,000km with 2,000km fault free operation. Once the test running is complete they then have to be approved by the national safety regulator and Metro. This will presumably only apply to E002 since once one is in service the standard has been set and all others will just be accepted based on the first one's approval.
This info is found here: Testing criteria

Neil
  Lockie91 Assistant Commissioner

The article on the Herald Sun (thanks Uni subscription) is about December bus replacements while testing is going on. The photo is used as a stock photo and not mentioned in the article at all.

On another note and possibly something that’s been answered before: for the high capacities to come in does it require the first 5 sets (E001-E005) to do a certain number of km of testing or is it just a few sets that need to and then the rest can come into operation after basic testing is done
The 'first', which will be E002, must do 10,000km of testing with 2,500km of fault free operation before acceptance, with all subsequent ones "only" having to complete 4,000km with 2,000km fault free operation. Once the test running is complete they then have to be approved by the national safety regulator and Metro. This will presumably only apply to E002 since once one is in service the standard has been set and all others will just be accepted based on the first one's approval.
This info is found here: Testing criteria

Neil
E002 has been out at Werribee for break testing and at Upper Ferntree Gully for hill testing. I assume E002 is somewhere between stage 4 & 5. They have continually pushed back the time it will come in to service, I guess they are having some issues getting it to 2500km fault free. COVID19 would of slowed things down as well. E011 was delivered to Pakenham East in mid March. I think E012 & E013 are at Newport being assembled. Not sure if there will be a delay in delivery of units from China due to COVID19.
  CraigieburnLineUser Locomotive Fireman

According to the V/Line twitter there will be more "train testing" in the evenings next week Monday to Friday. Hope they are getting closer to that magical figure of 10,000kms on E002
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
When are the trains due to be in revenue service ?
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

When are the trains due to be in revenue service ?
freightgate
Middle of this year apparently: https://transport.vic.gov.au/our-transport-future/our-projects/high-capacity-metro-trains

Not sure if the current situation has delayed things or not (including arrival of new carriages from overseas, assembly at Newport or simply testing in general).


In other news, from what I have been told, set 13 was the most recent to head down to Pakenham East.


Also in addition to the several night shutdowns of the Pakenham line, the Werribee line is also being shut down between Newport and Werribee for several nights according to Metro's planned disruptions. Is there more testing on that like as well and at least one transfer thrown in?

Another thing I found is that Set 2 was allegedly transferred somewhere (back to Newport?) on the 22nd of April with the video on YouTube (this is according to the person who made video sharing it on Facebook and saying it was the 2nd set when asked by someone, YouTube video itself doesn't allow any commenting):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmpEbyLcJ94
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Anyone know what has happened to E001?
It has not been talked about on this forum since it was delivered to Pakenham East Depot,nor has it been sighted on the mainline for testing with E002 having the honours  of being first.
TOQ-1 and NimbleJack posted on this forum that E001 has serious electrical issues. There were suggestions that there were also problems with the bogies and "undercarriage" whatever that was supposed to mean. It seems that #1 may not see service without getting new motor units or replaced completely, probably at Downers expense as I don't imagine CRRC would be willing to wear the cost of a 66th set after Downer appears to have stuffed it up so well.

Neil
ngarner
How is set one going does anyone know -

Interested as an ex-resident and user of the Pakenham/Frankston lines to see the progression of this project albeit a year behind schedule.
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Anyone know what has happened to E001?
It has not been talked about on this forum since it was delivered to Pakenham East Depot,nor has it been sighted on the mainline for testing with E002 having the honours  of being first.
TOQ-1 and NimbleJack posted on this forum that E001 has serious electrical issues. There were suggestions that there were also problems with the bogies and "undercarriage" whatever that was supposed to mean. It seems that #1 may not see service without getting new motor units or replaced completely, probably at Downers expense as I don't imagine CRRC would be willing to wear the cost of a 66th set after Downer appears to have stuffed it up so well.

Neil
How is set one going does anyone know -

Interested as an ex-resident and user of the Pakenham/Frankston lines to see the progression of this project albeit a year behind schedule.
don_dunstan
There were allegedly problems with set one as mentioned previously, however I can find no proof or source to back up what was said nor was this mentioned anywhere else. .

Could either TOQ-1 or NimbleJack please state the source of their information regarding set one, as it would help us all who want to confirm if the information that you posted is merely rumours or speculation or is indeed the truth.
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic

Also in addition to the several night shutdowns of the Pakenham line, the Werribee line is also being shut down between Newport and Werribee for several nights according to Metro's planned disruptions. Is there more testing on that like as well and at least one transfer thrown in?
Op Kronos

There's a level crossing removal at werribee cherry st that could be the cause of this shutdown between newport and werribee. They are flat out into that project, and ramping up on the werribee st crossing works, which shouldn't cause closures for passenger services, however will for freight. BG track between werribee station and manor expect to be closed at some point in the next 2 months. SG track to be moved west by 20ish meters for the duration of the construction.
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman


Also in addition to the several night shutdowns of the Pakenham line, the Werribee line is also being shut down between Newport and Werribee for several nights according to Metro's planned disruptions. Is there more testing on that like as well and at least one transfer thrown in?
There's a level crossing removal at werribee cherry st that could be the cause of this shutdown between newport and werribee. They are flat out into that project, and ramping up on the werribee st crossing works, which shouldn't cause closures for passenger services, however will for freight. BG track between werribee station and manor expect to be closed at some point in the next 2 months. SG track to be moved west by 20ish meters for the duration of the construction.

Galron
Could well be. However there are no rail shutdowns currently listed on the level crossings website for the Werribee Line and Metro's website lists them as mostly "Project Works" with only one being "Maintenance Works".  The term "Project Works' in the past has sometimes meant HCMT testing when listed for both the Werribee and Pakenham Lines with the once in a while transfer to Pakenham East also being included.
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
If E001 was in any way usable then it, and not E002, would be the one racking up the km's of testing and would also be a lot further along in the process since it was delivered to Pakenham East long before any subsequent one. I don't have anything that I can point you to to confirm this but logic follows that it has, at least, some of the issues mentioned in this thread. You wouldn't keep a functional train sitting in a depot and not be testing it; that goes against all economics and common sense; ergo it is not, currently, in a state that means it can be used. The length of time between it and E002's delivery to Pakenham East suggests Downer had to do some modification to its production line processes, retraining of workers or possibly both. Whether Downer are bothering to try to fix its problems I have no idea. If it's truly as poor a build as suggested then they more than likely aren't wasting any time, effort or money on it.
Oh, and E013 was transferred on May 2nd or 3rd.

Neil
  CraigieburnLineUser Locomotive Fireman

If E001 was in any way usable then it, and not E002, would be the one racking up the km's of testing and would also be a lot further along in the process since it was delivered to Pakenham East long before any subsequent one. I don't have anything that I can point you to to confirm this but logic follows that it has, at least, some of the issues mentioned in this thread. You wouldn't keep a functional train sitting in a depot and not be testing it; that goes against all economics and common sense; ergo it is not, currently, in a state that means it can be used. The length of time between it and E002's delivery to Pakenham East suggests Downer had to do some modification to its production line processes, retraining of workers or possibly both. Whether Downer are bothering to try to fix its problems I have no idea. If it's truly as poor a build as suggested then they more than likely aren't wasting any time, effort or money on it.
Oh, and E013 was transferred on May 2nd or 3rd.

Neil
ngarner
If E001 can't be fixed and is scrapped, will there be an E066 built as part of this order? Surely the government would want all 65 delivered and any faults fixed
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
If E001 was in any way usable then it, and not E002, would be the one racking up the km's of testing and would also be a lot further along in the process since it was delivered to Pakenham East long before any subsequent one. I don't have anything that I can point you to to confirm this but logic follows that it has, at least, some of the issues mentioned in this thread. You wouldn't keep a functional train sitting in a depot and not be testing it; that goes against all economics and common sense; ergo it is not, currently, in a state that means it can be used. The length of time between it and E002's delivery to Pakenham East suggests Downer had to do some modification to its production line processes, retraining of workers or possibly both. Whether Downer are bothering to try to fix its problems I have no idea. If it's truly as poor a build as suggested then they more than likely aren't wasting any time, effort or money on it.
Oh, and E013 was transferred on May 2nd or 3rd.

Neil
If E001 can't be fixed and is scrapped, will there be an E066 built as part of this order? Surely the government would want all 65 delivered and any faults fixed
CraigieburnLineUser
At some point , foamers need a reality check on how production lines run.

E001 merely proved that Downer could build one.

E002 is the set that is crammed full of testing equipment.

Well you may ask why isn't E001 doing testing. Same reason as all the other sets are sitting in the depot doing nothing, E002 is the designated one to do the hard work.

As for something "wrong" with E001, that is only speculation
- same as mine - that if Downer has identified what is wrong, it would be back at the shop to fix the same as every other one that they have built since.

cheers
john
  Lockie91 Assistant Commissioner

There were most definitely faults as reported to The Age by the RTBU.

I assume you mean Downer COULDN'T assemble one. Union says that the internal wiring and electrical systems we’re screwed. Weather or not that happened here or was delivered like that is yet to be published. That will be the determining factor of if we get E066 and who will be paying for it.

@justarider should check a few facts before beating the ‘foamers’

https://amp.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/more-work-done-in-china-on-new-trains-for-melbourne-as-delays-mount-20191011-p52zxe.html
  pvcommuter Station Master

There were most definitely faults as reported to The Age by the RTBU.

I assume you mean Downer COULDN'T assemble one. Union says that the internal wiring and electrical systems we’re screwed. Weather or not that happened here or was delivered like that is yet to be published. That will be the determining factor of if we get E066 and who will be paying for it.

@justarider should check a few facts before beating the ‘foamers’

https://amp.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/more-work-done-in-china-on-new-trains-for-melbourne-as-delays-mount-20191011-p52zxe.html
Lockie91
The fleet's entry into traffic is not dependent on the status of #1, and someone somewhere has decided that the available workforce is better deployed on the new builds. Set #1 can be expected to have its foibles rectified when that becomes the next best thing to spend the available capacity on. There's a supply chain that might be costly to put on hold if everyone is distracted fiddling with #1. The suggestions of scrapping it and starting again are crazy talk.
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
E002 is trying to complete stage 5 testing, 10,000km of mainline test running of which 2,500km is fault free. #3 is on stage 4, which is wider network testing and working towards stage 5, only having to complete 4,000km with 2,000km fault free. #4 is on stage 3 which is running on the Pakenham line working up to stage 4. #5 to 13 will be undergoing stages 1, testing of mechanical and electrical components, and stage 2, testing within the depot at East Pakenham with the aim of getting to stage 3 asap. Not working at that depot I can't say how many are at stage 2 but I doubt that there are many sitting around having nothing done to them.
If #1 had passed stages 1 and 2 it would also be out on the Pakenham line working on stage 3, IMHO. The fact that it isn't points to its failing one or more of those stages, which corrolates with the reports of electrical problems.

PVcommuter's comment about not disrupting the supply chain makes prefect sense about fixing #1 only when the pressure is off the production line.  

Neil
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

@ngarner Thank you for your insight. Sorry if I sounded a little immature asking. I just wanted some concrete evidence which you have provided so thank you. Sorry once again if I offended you by saying what you said previously was speculation.

@pvcommuter thank you for your insights as well.

@Lockie91 Thank you for linking The Age article, I saw it in the past but thought it was merely that the workers here at Newport couldn't do the job ether correctly or in an effective manner which is why they were doing it overseas.


Also sorry Mods/Admins for blowing this up too much, I just wanted some rational evidence behind what was said and didn't see what was already presented. I am so sorry for the mess.


Another to note, I am not sure if it was discussed here but the "first" train is going to have artwork displayed on it as mentioned here: https://transport.vic.gov.au/our-transport-future/our-projects/high-capacity-metro-trains/train-artwork

It is also mentioned on the main page (https://transport.vic.gov.au/our-transport-future/our-projects/high-capacity-metro-trains) as well.
There are four short listed designs with no final chosen (at least not publicly announced). It will be interesting to see whichever design they chose on the "first" set eventually when the time comes.

Note: "first" set could mean the troublesome one delivered in November 2018 or the first to enter service. I am betting it will be the latter.
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
No worries Op Kronos.
As #1 was transferred to East Pakenham wearing PTV livery I agree with you that the one to wear the special livery will be #2

Neil
  Lockie91 Assistant Commissioner

There were most definitely faults as reported to The Age by the RTBU.

I assume you mean Downer COULDN'T assemble one. Union says that the internal wiring and electrical systems we’re screwed. Weather or not that happened here or was delivered like that is yet to be published. That will be the determining factor of if we get E066 and who will be paying for it.

@justarider should check a few facts before beating the ‘foamers’

https://amp.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/more-work-done-in-china-on-new-trains-for-melbourne-as-delays-mount-20191011-p52zxe.html
The fleet's entry into traffic is not dependent on the status of #1, and someone somewhere has decided that the available workforce is better deployed on the new builds. Set #1 can be expected to have its foibles rectified when that becomes the next best thing to spend the available capacity on. There's a supply chain that might be costly to put on hold if everyone is distracted fiddling with #1. The suggestions of scrapping it and starting again are crazy talk.
pvcommuter
I was not suggesting that everything was depending on E001. Just that it had gone very much astray and who is to have the finger pointed at them. All parties are mute on the subject as it looks bad for all involved. The bean counters will decide if it is worth trying to fix E001 or just send it to the scrap heap and order E066, all of which will be written into Evolutions Contact.
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Latest news from Channel 9's Andrew Lund indicates entry into service has been delayed till late this year to early next year:
 
Report also states if 5 trains not delivered by August, there will be $150 million penalty.


I do not use reddit but my friend found this post which has picture of sets 3 and 4 sitting on Pakenham platform undergoing mainline testing: https://www.reddit.com/r/MelbourneTrains/comments/gu04p1/hcmt_34_at_pakenham_for_a_staff_meal_break/


Also this post : https://www.reddit.com/r/MelbourneTrains/comments/gq5674/whats_the_latest_on_the_hcmts/ has
someone state (with no pictures)
that 13th set transferred to Pakenham East from Newport was actually set 14 not set 13 (they said they saw it). Also mentions other information stating set 2 has done 10,000km of testing (whether 2500km were fault free as required is not mentioned).

Sets 3 and 4 are testing on Pakenham line, set 2 on Werribee line (told by friend, can someone please confirm if true?), whle others that have been completed have status unknown (possibly just low speed testing in Pakenham East depot?)
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
Latest news from Channel 9's Andrew Lund indicates entry into service has been delayed till late this year to early next year:
 
Report also states if 5 trains not delivered by August, there will be $150 million penalty.


I do not use reddit but my friend found this post which has picture of sets 3 and 4 sitting on Pakenham platform undergoing mainline testing: https://www.reddit.com/r/MelbourneTrains/comments/gu04p1/hcmt_34_at_pakenham_for_a_staff_meal_break/


Also this post : https://www.reddit.com/r/MelbourneTrains/comments/gq5674/whats_the_latest_on_the_hcmts/ has
someone state (with no pictures)
that 13th set transferred to Pakenham East from Newport was actually set 14 not set 13 (they said they saw it). Also mentions other information stating set 2 has done 10,000km of testing (whether 2500km were fault free as required is not mentioned).

Sets 3 and 4 are testing on Pakenham line, set 2 on Werribee line (told by friend, can someone please confirm if true?), whle others that have been completed have status unknown (possibly just low speed testing in Pakenham East depot?)
Op Kronos
trifle ironic that Reddit is referencing Railpage (& one of my posts specifically) - if this keeps up we'll all end up tying ourselves into knots

Neil
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
Photos and video of an HCMT transfer today. SSR T & P hauling an unidentified HCMT to East Pakenham.



https://youtu.be/OMjpRBjP1BM
find 11:48am as it goes through South Yarra station on the down

Photos
Twitter feed that you have to scroll down to around noon today to find stills of it at Huntingdale

Unless this was one of units 2, 3 or 4 being returned to East Pakenham, then this is the 14th transfer and the first in the middle of the day

Neil
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Can confirm that the set involved in transfer mentioned above by @ngarner above was set 2 as seen in this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh3886K8ZqE

Edit: this video here confirms that set 2 was indeed transferred today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5A2NSB6Cjc

Edit 2: fixing up some wording and bringing news that Vicsig now has 2 photos of transfer of set 2 from Newport to Pakenham East (at same location as first video and first clip of transfer in second video - who knew it was such a popular spot?!)

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