Construction to begin on upgrade to Waurn Ponds Station

 

News article: Construction to begin on upgrade to Waurn Ponds Station

Construction will begin in late June on the upgrade to Waurn Ponds Station, with crews beginning to establish the work site at the station from next week.

  NSWGR8022 Deputy Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Victoria seems to choose the idea of separate platforms in a huge build which is costly in a design which delivers very little under view.  The platforms are never designed as island platforms to reduce cost, there is little cover and protection from the wind and they are bare.

Why are island platforms not considered and in colder areas like Victoria the station seem to lack internal areas out of the wind and weather with automatic doors.

Construction to begin on upgrade to Waurn Ponds Station

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  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Victoria's pro-car government selecting a station design that makes public transport an unattractive proposition? What a surprise.

One of the advantages of side platforms - especially for a station on a passing loop where the 'main' platform can be used whenever possible - is allowing for cross-platform transfer to a connecting bus. But they haven't even done that here, the access is all about cars.
  Rossco T Chief Train Controller

Location: Camberwell, Victoria
Victoria seems to choose the idea of separate platforms in a huge build which is costly in a design which delivers very little under view.  The platforms are never designed as island platforms to reduce cost, there is little cover and protection from the wind and they are bare.

Why are island platforms not considered and in colder areas like Victoria the station seem to lack internal areas out of the wind and weather with automatic doors.
NSWGR8022
Actually, the station at Merinda Park (near Cranbourne) was designed to be an island platform as part of a future duplication with a currently unused platform face.

However, as part of the current duplication project the station is to be completely be rebuilt with (wait for it) side platforms!

Ross
  EmrldPhoenix Station Master

Location: Melbourne, VIC
Victoria seems to choose the idea of separate platforms in a huge build which is costly in a design which delivers very little under view.  The platforms are never designed as island platforms to reduce cost, there is little cover and protection from the wind and they are bare.

Why are island platforms not considered and in colder areas like Victoria the station seem to lack internal areas out of the wind and weather with automatic doors.
NSWGR8022

I do agree that island platforms are better and more appropriate in colder weather. However on cost, a side platform at Waurn Ponds would be cheaper to implement. One side is already there, and all that needs to happen is construction of the other side platform.

Another benefit of side platforms is there is less work required when building an overpass. While this is an optional thing, having an overpass is far superior to just a pedestrian crossing in terms of accessibility and reliability. On an island, three sets of ramps and/or elevators are required, while a side platform station only requires two sets, further reducing associated costs.

However, as part of the current duplication project [Merinda Park] station is to be completely be rebuilt with (wait for it) side platforms!
Rossco T

On Merinda Park station, if it was purely on cost the station should remain as is and only require minor modifications to accommodate a second track. While Merinda Park desperately needs an overall station upgrade, it could be accomplished without a full rebuild. This decision seems like a largely political decision.
  justarider Deputy Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
Victoria seems to choose the idea of separate platforms in a huge build which is costly in a design which delivers very little under view.  The platforms are never designed as island platforms to reduce cost, there is little cover and protection from the wind and they are bare.

Why are island platforms not considered and in colder areas like Victoria the station seem to lack internal areas out of the wind and weather with automatic doors.

Construction to begin on upgrade to Waurn Ponds Station
NSWGR8022
I'm so pleased that @NSWGR8022 is not an architect/builder.

You may ask why islands are not considered.

Simples - DDA compliance. For any new or renovated station, an at-grade pedestrian crossing is an absolute NO NO.

2 cross-over sets stairs, ramps, lifts  - versus 3 sets. A no brainer for cost.

And how does an island platform magically give better weather protection?
The WP design may be bare, but have you been on the new island stations down Dandenong way ? Small shelters is the latest design fashion.

EDIT  I should have also mentioned that this is not "a huge build".
The existing station becomes the up side, no change at all to the shelter sheds. Apart from the cross over bridge, the only change there is to double the size of the paved car park, tidying up the gravel.

cheers
John

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