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  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Yeah you keep on believing that if it keeps you warm. It's not my fault that you are totally unable to put forward a coherent argument. Only you can do about what you see in the mirror Don. I am not attempting to shut down what you have to say. Its not my fault that your arguments are full of holes. I am in even in agreement with you on a couple of points and all you do is argue with yourself.

You cannot even prove that I am anti - police.

I do and have discussed other minorities suffering on the relevant forum and I have mentioned that I have experienced racial profiling ONCE in this forum. Again making things up as you go along, because you have nothing. I get the sense that you are putting forward these arguments solely in an attempt to equivocate Don. That's all.

If me mentioning the deaths of black people and the hands upsets you so much, then that is your problem and no one else's. But carry on with your anger, if it keeps you warm.


Michael
Michael, there's absolutely nothing coherent about what you say - you know that don't you. It's just venom and bile against your perceived enemies.
don_dunstan
It's just venom and bile against your perceived enemies.

You mean like racists and white supremacists. Yep, plenty of venom and bile against those a$$holes, and nothing perceived about that admittedly.

Punch a Nazi should be a legal sport.


Michael

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  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

'Cracker' is  a highly perjorative term for whites, used by many, including Malcolm X, that still pervades our supermarket shelves. I hope to see an end to this  blatant offensiveness very soon. I'm sure the same people who complain about Redskins, Coon cheese etc. will be on to this one with as much vigour. There's also a popular juniper flavoured alcoholic beverage that should be renamed.
billybaxter
Cracker is a racist term for White people, granted. But you are having a go at Malcolm X, a civil rights activist in the 1960's when black people did not have equal rights.  

Saying Cracker to decent white people is deplorable, to racists meh who cares!

I'm sure the same people who complain about Redskins,

Please look at the video shown at half time during the NBA finals about the Washington Redskins as to why the Indigenous Population of the US find it offensive. An Indigenous Population that has been abused to the point of near extinction.

Coon cheese etc. will be on to this one with as much vigour. There's also a popular juniper flavoured alcoholic beverage that should be renamed.

To paraphrase a great Devonian comedian Josh Widdecombe, what an effing joking this forum has become for some.


Michael
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Coon cheese etc. will be on to this one with as much vigour.
mejhammers1
Don't laugh; it's already happened. Some years ago, there was a store in Bourke Street Melbourne ( shoes if I remember correctly) named Coons. Somebody began the attack on this racist shop name and a mindless mob joined in. The owner pointed out to them that his name was Coon, and his father, Alfred Coon, started the business.
Racism exists certainly, but for heavens sake, make sure there is actually a racist intent before jumping in. We've heard about the white moves first in chess, so what's next? Is someone going to count the black and white stripes on Collingwood's AFL jersey and find there are more white than black (or vice versa)?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

The Minneapolis council have voted to defund their police force.

The proof will be in the pudding if it leads to a total breakdown in law-and-order.

https://www.startribune.com/on-the-north-side-residents-question-calls-to-defund-minneapolis-police/571450072/
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
It's just venom and bile against your perceived enemies.

You mean like racists and white supremacists. Yep, plenty of venom and bile against those a$$holes, and nothing perceived about that admittedly.

Punch a Nazi should be a legal sport.


Michael
mejhammers1
As if to prove my point.
Cracker is a racist term for White people, granted. But you are having a go at Malcolm X, a civil rights activist in the 1960's when black people did not have equal rights.
mejhammers1
So beloved that he was assassinated by people from within his own organisation.
To paraphrase a great Devonian comedian Josh Widdecombe, what an effing joking this forum has become for some.
mejhammers1
Hey, you're the one who has been keeping it going pretty much single-handedly for 20 pages. Bet you can't help yourself and you'll keep posting - am I right?
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

It's just venom and bile against your perceived enemies.

You mean like racists and white supremacists. Yep, plenty of venom and bile against those a$$holes, and nothing perceived about that admittedly.

Punch a Nazi should be a legal sport.


Michael
As if to prove my point.
Cracker is a racist term for White people, granted. But you are having a go at Malcolm X, a civil rights activist in the 1960's when black people did not have equal rights.
So beloved that he was assassinated by people from within his own organisation.
To paraphrase a great Devonian comedian Josh Widdecombe, what an effing joking this forum has become for some.
Hey, you're the one who has been keeping it going pretty much single-handedly for 20 pages. Bet you can't help yourself and you'll keep posting - am I right?
don_dunstan
What Nazis aren't your enemy? Course Not.

So beloved that he was assassinated by people from within his own organisation.

Never said he was beloved, Don. Full of Hyperbole as usual. Didn't help that he was at the table with the KKK. Being a black supremacist is a stain against him also.

Hey, you're the one who has been keeping it going pretty much single-handedly for 20 pages. Bet you can't help yourself and you'll keep posting - am I right?  

From someone spouted such talking points such as

So is the police fear of black men (in particular) justified?

So innocent white people don't ever get killed by the cops in the United States? Got it.

Are you saying if you were a white policeman that you'd never fear black men in New York? Rubbish.

It's not racist to cite that statistic, it's just an unfortunate reality.

That's where arguing for 'special treatment' of minority groups gets you - JUSTICE NOT SERVED.


But you think I should not respond. You also seem to have trouble counting, for you have posted just as much if not more than me.

And you cant help but insert your ar$e into every conversation, can you Don? You are a bit of a tiresome w..ker, aren't you. Am I right?


Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Coon cheese etc. will be on to this one with as much vigour.
Don't laugh; it's already happened. Some years ago, there was a store in Bourke Street Melbourne ( shoes if I remember correctly) named Coons. Somebody began the attack on this racist shop name and a mindless mob joined in. The owner pointed out to them that his name was Coon, and his father, Alfred Coon, started the business.
Racism exists certainly, but for heavens sake, make sure there is actually a racist intent before jumping in. We've heard about the white moves first in chess, so what's next? Is someone going to count the black and white stripes on Collingwood's AFL jersey and find there are more white than black (or vice versa)?
Valvegear
Sorry, Valvegear, I don't think that Coon cheese is racist at all. I get that it is getting ridiculous with most of these complaints, and people complaining about confectionary with slightly unfortunate names need to get a life, but the term Redskins to the US Indigenous community is a serious one, I was just pointing that one out.


Michael
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Sorry, Valvegear, I don't think that Coon cheese is racist at all. I get that it is getting ridiculous with most of these complaints, and people complaining about confectionary with slightly unfortunate names need to get a life, but the term Redskins to the US Indigenous community is a serious one, I was just pointing that one out.
"mejhammers1"
Easy; easy!  Not for one moment did I think you believed the name to be racist. I was sure that all you were doing was highlighting another possible absurdity, and I just added an anecdote to show how absurd it can get.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
So some un-elected people (like you) get to decide what stays and what goes? Great.
Do you now agree that an attitude such as the one you showed above should have applied on these shores in 1788, but didn't? Why was it alright then but not now?
Trust you to come up with a good dose of "whatabout-ism".

SOMEONE with an expansionist agenda and guns was going to colonise this place - British, Dutch, Spanish - one of the three. Or possibly the Belgians, they would have had a red hot go at completely genociding the joint given their form in the Congo.

You seriously wanna have a good weep about the fact that it was eventually taken over like the rest of the black arm-band people? Be my guest, sooky-bub.

And you never know your luck in the twenty-first century; the Chinese Communist Party could forcibly take over and put every dissenter into camps... then both we'll have lots of time to chat about how unfortunate it was that the British arrived here while we're being beaten and starved.
don_dunstan
Ahh, the goog old "If they didn't do it, someone else would have" excuse. Just like pulling down statues, eh?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Will the protesters change their behaviour now?
I think this is the only time I will ever agree with Trump on something
DCook
Look at these vile protesters with no love of their history, heritage and national pride
How else are we meant to know about Saddam Hussein if there are no statues of him around Question The LEFT has gone too far this time!


  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
What Nazis aren't your enemy? Course Not.
mejhammers1
Judge, jury and executioner - you get to decide who gets punched and who doesn't using your own criteria. The righteousness, Michael!
Never said he was beloved, Don. Full of Hyperbole as usual. Didn't help that he was at the table with the KKK. Being a black supremacist is a stain against him also.
mejahmmers1
So does he deserve to get punched for being a black supremacist? Serious question.
But you think I should not respond. You also seem to have trouble counting, for you have posted just as much if not more than me. And you cant help but insert your ar$e into every conversation, can you Don? You are a bit of a tiresome w..ker, aren't you. Am I right? Michael
mejhammers1
Look in the mirror, Michael - if ever there was an opinionated auto-sexual here it's YOU, matey. I could say exactly the same thing about your posting; every and any time there's a topic that might concern race you're right in there like the proverbial blowfly to excrement. You can't help yourself, you just have to respond and you just have to spell out your holier-than-thou gospels. And I have to admit, I just love stirring you up - predictable, reliable and guaranteed to have an opinion.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Trust you to come up with a good dose of "whatabout-ism".

SOMEONE with an expansionist agenda and guns was going to colonise this place - British, Dutch, Spanish - one of the three. Or possibly the Belgians, they would have had a red hot go at completely genociding the joint given their form in the Congo.

You seriously wanna have a good weep about the fact that it was eventually taken over like the rest of the black arm-band people? Be my guest, sooky-bub.

And you never know your luck in the twenty-first century; the Chinese Communist Party could forcibly take over and put every dissenter into camps... then both we'll have lots of time to chat about how unfortunate it was that the British arrived here while we're being beaten and starved.
Ahh, the goog old "If they didn't do it, someone else would have" excuse. Just like pulling down statues, eh?
DirtyBallast
Well how far back should reparations and 'sorry days' for past invasions go? Should the Celts have a claim against the Normans or the Vikings? Should Jewish people pursue a claim against modern Egypt? Hell, even the Aboriginal people themselves are mooted to have committed their own genocide against the original homo erectus inhabitants of this land - the remains of this exterminated race are at Kow Swamp near Kerang (VIC) and they have no genetic relationship to the Australian Aboriginal. Should modern Aboriginal people have a sorry day for their own genocide they seem to have committed some several millennia ago?
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

How else are we meant to know about Saddam Hussein if there are no statues of him around Question
Dangersdan707
Just be patient. You'll learn about the Iraq War in year 10.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

What Nazis aren't your enemy? Course Not.
Judge, jury and executioner - you get to decide who gets punched and who doesn't using your own criteria. The righteousness, Michael!
Never said he was beloved, Don. Full of Hyperbole as usual. Didn't help that he was at the table with the KKK. Being a black supremacist is a stain against him also.
So does he deserve to get punched for being a black supremacist? Serious question.
But you think I should not respond. You also seem to have trouble counting, for you have posted just as much if not more than me. And you cant help but insert your ar$e into every conversation, can you Don? You are a bit of a tiresome w..ker, aren't you. Am I right? Michael
Look in the mirror, Michael - if ever there was an opinionated auto-sexual here it's YOU, matey. I could say exactly the same thing about your posting; every and any time there's a topic that might concern race you're right in there like the proverbial blowfly to excrement. You can't help yourself, you just have to respond and you just have to spell out your holier-than-thou gospels. And I have to admit, I just love stirring you up - predictable, reliable and guaranteed to have an opinion.
don_dunstan
Judge, jury and executioner - you get to decide who gets punched and who doesn't using your own criteria. The righteousness, Michael!

You care about Nazi's being punched? Sticking up for White supremacists' eh. So Nazi's are not your enemy. Mask slipping there Don.

So does he deserve to get punched for being a black supremacist? Serious question.

Yes he does. of course he does! All racists deserve a punch in the face.

if ever there was an opinionated auto-sexual here it's YOU,

Really, YOU, YOU what you calling me opinionated! I am yeah, but Bloody Hell, Don Dunstan.

Every and any time there's a topic that might concern race you're right in there like the proverbial blowfly to excrement.

Says the person who had to respond because I mentioned HBCU's. Take a good hard look at yourself Don.

I suppose I am the blowfly, and you are the excrement.

Whatevs Don.


Michael
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Sorry, Valvegear, I don't think that Coon cheese is racist at all. I get that it is getting ridiculous with most of these complaints, and people complaining about confectionary with slightly unfortunate names need to get a life, but the term Redskins to the US Indigenous community is a serious one, I was just pointing that one out.
Easy; easy!  Not for one moment did I think you believed the name to be racist. I was sure that all you were doing was highlighting another possible absurdity, and I just added an anecdote to show how absurd it can get.
Valvegear
No, No I am not mad, and I am not directing anything at you at all. It is absurd. Sorry I am not being mad at you at all. Sorry that it seemed that way.


Michael
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Judge, jury and executioner - you get to decide who gets punched and who doesn't using your own criteria. The righteousness, Michael!

You care about Nazi's being punched? Sticking up for White supremacists' eh. So Nazi's are not your enemy. Mask slipping there Don.
mejhammers1
Nah but I care about the fact that you've decided you are the one who decides who is innocent and who is guilty.

So anyone you don't like deserves a punch, eh Michael?
So does he deserve to get punched for being a black supremacist? Serious question. Yes he does. of course he does! All racists deserve a punch in the face. if ever there was an opinionated auto-sexual here it's YOU, Really, YOU, YOU what you calling me opinionated! I am yeah, but Bloody Hell, Don Dunstan. Every and any time there's a topic that might concern race you're right in there like the proverbial blowfly to excrement. Says the person who had to respond because I mentioned HBCU's. Take a good hard look at yourself Don. I suppose I am the blowfly, and you are the excrement. Whatevs Don. Michael
mejhammers1
... and just like the slavering Pavlov's dog that you are, you can't stay away from me. Do you have my cook-book and picture in your bedroom? Wouldn't be surprised.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
Trust you to come up with a good dose of "whatabout-ism".

SOMEONE with an expansionist agenda and guns was going to colonise this place - British, Dutch, Spanish - one of the three. Or possibly the Belgians, they would have had a red hot go at completely genociding the joint given their form in the Congo.

You seriously wanna have a good weep about the fact that it was eventually taken over like the rest of the black arm-band people? Be my guest, sooky-bub.

And you never know your luck in the twenty-first century; the Chinese Communist Party could forcibly take over and put every dissenter into camps... then both we'll have lots of time to chat about how unfortunate it was that the British arrived here while we're being beaten and starved.
Ahh, the goog old "If they didn't do it, someone else would have" excuse. Just like pulling down statues, eh?
Well how far back should reparations and 'sorry days' for past invasions go? Should the Celts have a claim against the Normans or the Vikings? Should Jewish people pursue a claim against modern Egypt? Hell, even the Aboriginal people themselves are mooted to have committed their own genocide against the original homo erectus inhabitants of this land - the remains of this exterminated race are at Kow Swamp near Kerang (VIC) and they have no genetic relationship to the Australian Aboriginal. Should modern Aboriginal people have a sorry day for their own genocide they seem to have committed some several millennia ago?
don_dunstan
Liar.

H.Erectus disappeared at least 50,000 years before known aboriginal occupation in Australia, i.e. over 100,000 years ago.

The remains discovered at Kow Swamp were comparatively fairly recent, being between 6,000 and 13,000 years old.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Judge, jury and executioner - you get to decide who gets punched and who doesn't using your own criteria. The righteousness, Michael!

You care about Nazi's being punched? Sticking up for White supremacists' eh. So Nazi's are not your enemy. Mask slipping there Don.
Nah but I care about the fact that you've decided you are the one who decides who is innocent and who is guilty.

So anyone you don't like deserves a punch, eh Michael?
So does he deserve to get punched for being a black supremacist? Serious question. Yes he does. of course he does! All racists deserve a punch in the face. if ever there was an opinionated auto-sexual here it's YOU, Really, YOU, YOU what you calling me opinionated! I am yeah, but Bloody Hell, Don Dunstan. Every and any time there's a topic that might concern race you're right in there like the proverbial blowfly to excrement. Says the person who had to respond because I mentioned HBCU's. Take a good hard look at yourself Don. I suppose I am the blowfly, and you are the excrement. Whatevs Don. Michael
... and just like the slavering Pavlov's dog that you are, you can't stay away from me. Do you have my cook-book and picture in your bedroom? Wouldn't be surprised.
don_dunstan
I cannot speak for your fantasies, Don. As they say whatever floats your boat.


Michael
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Trust you to come up with a good dose of "whatabout-ism".

SOMEONE with an expansionist agenda and guns was going to colonise this place - British, Dutch, Spanish - one of the three. Or possibly the Belgians, they would have had a red hot go at completely genociding the joint given their form in the Congo.

You seriously wanna have a good weep about the fact that it was eventually taken over like the rest of the black arm-band people? Be my guest, sooky-bub.

And you never know your luck in the twenty-first century; the Chinese Communist Party could forcibly take over and put every dissenter into camps... then both we'll have lots of time to chat about how unfortunate it was that the British arrived here while we're being beaten and starved.
Ahh, the goog old "If they didn't do it, someone else would have" excuse. Just like pulling down statues, eh?
Well how far back should reparations and 'sorry days' for past invasions go? Should the Celts have a claim against the Normans or the Vikings? Should Jewish people pursue a claim against modern Egypt? Hell, even the Aboriginal people themselves are mooted to have committed their own genocide against the original homo erectus inhabitants of this land - the remains of this exterminated race are at Kow Swamp near Kerang (VIC) and they have no genetic relationship to the Australian Aboriginal. Should modern Aboriginal people have a sorry day for their own genocide they seem to have committed some several millennia ago?
Liar.

H.Erectus disappeared at least 50,000 years before known aboriginal occupation in Australia.
DirtyBallast
They were definitely here at the same time, the overlap was many tens of thousands of years - although not in the exact same places at the same time on the continent. Modern Aboriginal Australians are thought to have arrived 65,000 year ago  but homo erectus arrived here (perhaps) some 120,000 to 60,000 years ago, they aren't entirely sure because of the lack of entire skeletons and artifacts. What they do know is that Kow Swamp man in his distinctive 'sloped skull' and 'large jawbone' genetic archetype disappeared entirely from the records around 9,000-14,000 years ago, the latest evidence being found at that Kow Swamp site; that's the date that CSIRO put on the remains of homo erectus when carbon dating the remains in the seventies.

Interestingly those people like the neanderthals in southern Europe had demonstrated a complex social structure and had gone to the time and effort of burying their dead in a ceremonial fashion, so they were very much human despite their differences from the Aboriginal people and modern homo sapiens. The site at Kow Swamp is also quite unique because being a cemetery it allowed examination of complete skeletons so the exact genus could be determined. The very oldest human remains in southern Australia - Mungo man at Lake Mungo (NSW) - is also thought to be substantively different from modern Aboriginal people but because there are no intact grave sites and very few bone fragments they're not entirely sure.

This all fits in neatly according to the theory that Kow Swamp man was either bred out of existence or (more likely because of the lack of any genetic trace in modern Aboriginals) exterminated completely by the invading race - a genocide. And before you cry "biased material" there's a variety of sources that all say pretty much the same thing, including the Australian Museum and CSIRO.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
Liar.

H.Erectus disappeared at least 50,000 years before known aboriginal occupation in Australia, i.e. over 100,000 years ago.

The remains discovered at Kow Swamp were comparatively fairly recent, being between 6,000 and 13,000 years old.
DirtyBallast
Kow Swamp Man IS the last known site of homo eretus- do more reading.

"Liar"... indeed. You really have a flair for the dramatic, don't you.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
I cannot speak for your fantasies, Don. As they say whatever floats your boat.


Michael
mejhammers1
Hey, I'm not the one who openly talks about going around punching people I don't like - but you do.
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
I should qualify what I've said above by saying the modern Aboriginal people aren't guilty of any horrible crime; you can't blame them or hold them accountable if indeed they did exterminate homo erectus - how can you hold modern Aboriginal people responsible for the genocide of a distinctively separate race some ten millennia ago? My point is that the whole of human history has genocide in it and that there's evidence for this all over the planet - nobody appears to be innocent of it.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
Don,

As long as you think that you've covered yourself in glory, I guess that's all that matters.
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

I cannot speak for your fantasies, Don. As they say whatever floats your boat.


Michael
Hey, I'm not the one who openly talks about going around punching people I don't like - but you do.
don_dunstan
No, I said it should be a sport and just Racists, Don. Why is that bothering you?


Michael
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
CHAZ/CHOP has ended, due to violence, the emergence of several self proclaimed leaders, and being based on fairy tale ideas. CNN link, so that I can't be accused of sourcing the Fasco Murdochilist Trump media.
End of a dream

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