The corona virus COVID-19

 
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

Anyone having a house party where there is more than one attendee should be put on a specially chartered Overland or IP and transported somewhere along the TAR. One way ticket. They can continue their party at the destination.
ANR
No thanks, neither SA or WA want to import your pestilence.

Victoria has an ample supply of shihtoles which would suffice to the purpose, and plenty of public transport vehicles that would be surplus to needs during the lockdown.

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  nswtrains Chief Commissioner

How are people that stupid
doyle
Well they listen to talkback radio.
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
Surely it must be time for shock ads people on ventilators, people doing rehabilitation people, dying alone and no family around
Grim reaper stuff
doyle
I think they should show:

1) Baz the middle aged tradie who now has permanent lung damage from the virus and can no longer work.
2) Brian the young businessman who now has permanent nerve damage from the virus and can no longer walk.
3) A family grieving for the loss of their grandma Nancy who caught the virus after ducking out to the shops.
4) A nurse describing the heartbreaking lonely hospital moments of an intellectually disabled man with athsma.

What do you think?
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
One of the most unfortunate syndromes with which we have to deal is the "let's see what we can get away with" idea.

One starting point is youth and cars with which they kill themselves and others by trying to get away with excessive speeds, drunken or drug-affected driving, illegal street drags and so on. Underlying all this is the "it can't happen to me; I'm bulletproof" clause, which is proven wrong so often that you have to wonder whether they have liquid fabric softener for brains.

Some of those who survive to reach middle age now believe the "bullet proof" theory - they did get away with it. Why is there crime? Why is there this disregard for rules? Because they reckon it's good to beat the cops.

I'd be rich if I had ten bucks for everyone I have heard saying the this pandemic is all bulldust and young people don't catch it anyway so why should they care?

Short of a jackhammer or angle grinder, I don't see how we get it into their thick skulls that it's fair dinkum and bloody serious.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I will not be wearing a mask another crazy idea from Daniel Andrews where CMO and other senior health officials have advised there is no point.  275 new cases overnight shows no signs of slowing?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I will not be wearing a mask another crazy idea from Daniel Andrews where CMO and other senior health officials have advised there is no point.  275 new cases overnight shows no signs of slowing?
bevans
It's plateauing which is a good thing.  If it wasn't by last weekend (10 days past lock-down), then I would be worried.

As for not wearing a mask, enjoy the fines...
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Wearing a mask would be very uncomfortable.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Wearing a mask would be very uncomfortable.
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

The people doing the right thing are always going to do the right thing

Unfortunately the people doing the wrong thing are always going to do the wrong thing
  don_dunstan The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Adelaide proud
We have to forget the idea that there will ever be a vaccine for COVID19 - there has never been a vaccine successfully developed for any kind of virus like this, it's the same for the common cold. It just evolves too quickly and is too clever for current virology to tackle.

So what are we going to do - hide from it forever? We've got to ask some hard questions about long-term management of this thing because it's not going to go away and in fact could be with us forever like influenza and colds.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
I will not be wearing a mask another crazy idea from Daniel Andrews where CMO and other senior health officials have advised there is no point.  275 new cases overnight shows no signs of slowing?
bevans
'I will not be wearing a mask another crazy idea from Daniel Andrews where CMO and other senior health officials have advised there is no point.'

That was last month ...............
  Carnot Minister for Railways

We have to forget the idea that there will ever be a vaccine for COVID19 - there has never been a vaccine successfully developed for any kind of virus like this, it's the same for the common cold. It just evolves too quickly and is too clever for current virology to tackle.

So what are we going to do - hide from it forever? We've got to ask some hard questions about long-term management of this thing because it's not going to go away and in fact could be with us forever like influenza and colds.
don_dunstan
The Oxford and Uni of Qld vaccines are showing real promise.  Perhaps we might end up with annual vaccines like the flu shot?
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

I am thankful to those people being Guinea pigs for a vaccine
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

We have to forget the idea that there will ever be a vaccine for COVID19 - there has never been a vaccine successfully developed for any kind of virus like this, it's the same for the common cold. It just evolves too quickly and is too clever for current virology to tackle.

So what are we going to do - hide from it forever? We've got to ask some hard questions about long-term management of this thing because it's not going to go away and in fact could be with us forever like influenza and colds.
don_dunstan
This is the question that people should be asking, but no one wants to.

Once you start to consider the long term and the possibility that there may not be a vaccine (as you say there have been no vaccines ever developed for any coronaviruses), then the suppression and elimination strategies both start to make less sense.

We are currently treating this like a law-and-order problem, rather than a public health problem. Whilst I accept the decisions made so far to flatten the curve, we have to start thinking about living with the virus, rather than "beating it."

Once this second wave has been suppressed, we need to start the process of getting the under 60s back to normality, whilst setting up the public health structures to accommodate the old.
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

I will not be wearing a mask another crazy idea from Daniel Andrews where CMO and other senior health officials have advised there is no point.  275 new cases overnight shows no signs of slowing?
bevans
I am not convinced it is necessary either, but I don't think its enough of a problem to warrant not doing it for the duration of this second lockdown. At the very least it shows a commitment to social and community solidarity. I don't think we want to go down the path of the US where everything is about "my rights."
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

Yeah clearly we need scary ads
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

If we have to live/die with the virus what do you suggest we do with the vulnerable?
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

And can we define vulnerable, is it the elderly and those with health issues or is it the 22 year old probably healthy whom should be fine but never quite recovers,and needs life long on going care. Where do you draw the line?
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

Yeah clearly we need scary ads
doyle
"Scary ads" are only going to drive fear into people that are already fearful. The people who think that it's "all smeg" will just see it as obvious scaremongering.

People who accept the virus as a real danger, but are skeptical of the measures being taken and want to hear more discussion for a path forward, wont stop being skeptical about those measures. What you are basically saying is "people are thinking logically about this, we need to scare them so they don't!"

Anyway, plenty of people today like me don't even have the TV connected and pay for ad-free services, so don't see any ads.
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Wearing a mask would be very uncomfortable.
freightgate
More uncomfortable than dying from a horrible disease?
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

I'm actually annoyed by the time delays implementing the measures
The measures are proven to have some effect
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
I will not be wearing a mask another crazy idea from Daniel Andrews where CMO and other senior health officials have advised there is no point.  275 new cases overnight shows no signs of slowing?
bevans
Your first error is that it is not Daniel Andrews's idea. It is new medical advice, and he's following it. I have masks, they're a bit of a nuisance, but not to any great extent. I wasn't wearing one until the medicos advised it. Now I do. I recommend that you do the same.
  doyle Assistant Commissioner

People who accept the virus as a real danger, but are skeptical of the measures being taken and want to hear more discussion for a path forward, wont stop being skeptical about those measures. What you are basically saying is "people are thinking logically about this, we need to scare them so they don't!"

No that's not what I'm saying you are assuming everyone is thinking logically

The people doing the wrong thing is the problem

If you accept the virus as a real threat why would you be sceptical of the measures
We all want a path forward so follow the measures

Unfortunately these measures are taking to long to implement
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
It is a well known fact that scare campaigns, whether they are for political, economic, social, or health agendas, really do work.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

I will not be wearing a mask another crazy idea from Daniel Andrews where CMO and other senior health officials have advised there is no point.  275 new cases overnight shows no signs of slowing?
Your first error is that it is not Daniel Andrews's idea. It is new medical advice, and he's following it. I have masks, they're a bit of a nuisance, but not to any great extent. I wasn't wearing one until the medicos advised it. Now I do. I recommend that you do the same.
Valvegear
Spot on.
Ever walked past a nail salon or similar? All I’ve seen wear masks.
My Old man was a barber, wore a mask when he was unwell. Pre COVID.
Some medico’s also.
Where is the problem?
Possibly not recommend earlier as limited supply.
I will be wearing some form of covering on my next outdoor adventure. For my own and my fellow citizens benefit.

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